Belichick fined $500K by NFL for taping Jets' signals

patdog · 09-14-2007, 02:57 PM

Not enough, u do know the Pat's have 2 first round picks next year. So taking 1 of them only helps them with dealing with trying to pay 2 first rounders. And do you really think a dollar of that $500K will come from Belichick wallet? If anybody do, growup.

papz · 09-14-2007, 03:06 PM

I think the penalty is harsh enough already. What else do people want? Strip their Superbowl titles? They committed a crime... and dealing with the consequences.

So taking 1 of them only helps them with dealing with trying to pay 2 first rounders.

That's because they're a deep team and made smart moves during last year's draft.

They're still a very good team with a smart coach, great quarterback, and players at every skill position. With or without stealing signals, they'll have no problem winning games this year. And should they win a Superbowl this year, it'll quiet all this talk.

ssmitty · 09-14-2007, 04:04 PM

none the less, it does put a blemish on their accomplishments in my mind...
sort of like an asterisk at the beginning of a record......
he should have been suspended for so many games to say the least.....
a slap on the hand will not stop this, only open the doors for new ideas
how to keep it going.....
the commish blew this one................
he had a chance to make people think twice about doing this
and now they'll continue to think it'll be a fine and draft pick....
would you take a superbowl over a fine a draft pick?

CheramieIII · 09-14-2007, 04:23 PM

and you know they've been doing it forever. Now we'll never know if Bellichick is really good or not. He wasn't crap until he started cheating and that was when he became head coach of the Patriots. What a freaking shame. They should put this guy in the cell with Convick.

We'll see how good Brady and the Patriots really are now. It will take a little time for all of the teams to change up for the Patriots since they already have alot of film (cheaters).

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What a bunch of losers and you know the entire team knew about it.

papz · 09-14-2007, 04:45 PM

So if you feel like that about Belichick... how do you feel about the players who play under him and all of his assistants who are now coaches in the NFL and college? I mean you associated Brady right away with this... so I would assume you would feel the same way about everyone who's been a Patriot during his coaching regime.

I think it's sad that Mangini is the one who ratted him out. If it weren't for Belichick, Mangini would not have the impressive resume that he has now. He would not be a head coach in this league and would still be just a secondary coach. He himself has also been a part of this for years. If he was so self righteous, he should have said something years ago.

ssmitty · 09-14-2007, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by papz

So if you feel like that about Belichick... how do you feel about the players who play under him and all of his assistants who are now coaches in the NFL and college? I mean you associated Brady right away with this... so I would assume you would feel the same way about everyone who's been a Patriot during his coaching regime.

I think it's sad that Mangini is the one who ratted him out. If it weren't for Belichick, Mangini would not have the impressive resume that he has now. He would not be a head coach in this league and would still be just a secondary coach. He himself has also been a part of this for years. If he was so self righteous, he should have said something years ago.

a case of the pot calling the kettle black.........(mangini-belichick)
well, we certainly could put an end to questions about who knew anything with a lie detector test.
any takers, come on, be a patriot............smitty
all leagues tollerate many things, but cheating? it's un-american...............

CheramieIII · 09-14-2007, 07:02 PM

Hence the word: CHEATERS! If I thought just Belichick was a cheater I would have said: CHEATER and I only called out a couple of names because I didn't feel like typing:

52 Alexander, Eric LB 6-2 240 2/8/82 3 LSU
23 Andrews, Willie CB 5-10 190 11/2/83 2 Baylor
32 Baker, Rashad S 5-10 198 2/22/82 4 Tennessee
88 Brady, Kyle TE 6-6 280 1/14/72 13 Penn State
12 Brady, Tom QB 6-4 225 8/3/77 8 Michigan
65 Britt, Wesley T 6-8 320 11/21/81 2 Alabama
98 Brown, Chad LB 6-2 245 7/12/70 15 Colorado
95 Brown, Kareem DT 6-4 295 1/30/84 R Miami (FL)
54 Bruschi, Tedy LB 6-1 247 6/9/73 12 Arizona
16 Cassel, Matt QB 6-4 230 5/17/82 3 USC
59 Colvin, Rosevelt LB 6-3 250 9/5/77 9 Purdue
44 Evans, Heath RB 6-0 250 12/30/78 7 Auburn
33 Faulk, Kevin RB 5-8 202 6/5/76 9 LSU
10 Gaffney, Jabar WR 6-1 200 12/1/80 6 Florida
21 Gay, Randall CB 5-11 190 5/5/82 4 LSU
3 Gostkowski, Stephen K 6-1 210 1/28/84 2 Memphis
97 Green, Jarvis DE 6-3 285 1/12/79 6 LSU
7 Gutierrez, Matt QB 6-4 230 6/9/84 R Idaho State
6 Hanson, Chris P 6-2 202 10/25/76 7 Marshall
27 Hobbs, Ellis CB 5-9 195 5/16/83 3 Iowa State
71 Hochstein, Russ G 6-4 305 10/7/77 6 Nebraska
53 Izzo, Larry LB 5-10 228 9/26/74 12 Rice
77 Kaczur, Nick T 6-4 315 7/28/79 3 Toledo
67 Koppen, Dan C 6-2 296 9/12/79 5 Boston College
72 Light, Matt T 6-4 305 6/23/78 7 Purdue
70 Mankins, Logan G 6-4 310 3/10/82 3 Fresno State
39 Maroney, Laurence RB 5-11 220 2/5/85 2 Minnesota
46 Mays, Corey LB 6-1 245 11/27/83 2 Notre Dame
31 Meriweather, Brandon S 5-11 200 1/14/84 R Miami (FL)
24 Mitchell, Mel S 6-1 225 2/10/79 6 Western Kentucky
34 Morris, Sammy RB 6-0 220 3/23/77 8 Texas Tech
81 Moss, Randy WR 6-4 210 2/13/77 10 Marshall
61 Neal, Stephen G 6-4 305 10/9/76 6 Cal State Bakersfield
68 O'Callaghan, Ryan T 6-7 330 7/19/83 2 California
66 Paxton, Lonie C 6-2 260 3/13/78 8 Sacramento State
22 Samuel, Asante CB 5-10 185 1/6/81 5 UCF
36 Sanders, James S 5-10 210 11/11/83 3 Fresno State
55 Seau, Junior LB 6-3 250 1/19/69 18 USC
90 Smith, Le Kevin DT 6-1 308 7/21/82 2 Nebraska
18 Stallworth, Donte' WR 6-0 200 11/10/80 6 Tennessee
96 Thomas, Adalius LB 6-2 270 8/18/77 8 Southern Miss
86 Thomas, David TE 6-3 248 7/5/83 2 Texas
92 Thomas, Santonio DT 6-4 305 7/2/81 1 Miami (FL)
50 Vrabel, Mike LB 6-4 261 8/14/75 11 Ohio State
94 Warren, Ty DT 6-5 300 2/6/81 5 Texas A&M
15 Washington, Kelley WR 6-3 215 8/21/79 5 Tennessee
84 Watson, Benjamin TE 6-3 255 12/18/80 4 Georgia
83 Welker, Wes WR 5-9 185 5/1/81 4 Texas Tech
75 Wilfork, Vince DT 6-2 325 11/4/81 4 Miami (FL)
26 Wilson, Eugene S 5-10 195 8/17/80 5 Illinois
58 Woods, Pierre LB 6-5 250 1/6/82 2 Michigan
99 Wright, Mike DT 6-4 295 3/1/82 3 Cincinnati
74 Yates, Billy G 6-2 305 4/15/80 4 Texas A&M

Injured Reserve
No. Player Pos Ht Wt DOB Exp College
Hairston, Justise RB 6-1 210 6/27/83 R Central Connecticut State
49 Lua, Oscar LB 6-0 238 5/9/84 R USC
35 Richardson, Mike CB 5-11 190 2/18/84 R Notre Dame
30 Scott, Chad CB 6-1 205 9/6/74 11 Maryland

and these guys are cheaters too and anyone who has ever played or coached for Belichick in New England is a CHEATER.

Yes all of them are CHEATERS, I was just trying to save some time and site space.

blacksaint · 09-14-2007, 07:04 PM

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I couldn't have said it better myself Cheramie. It's kind of funny how people point fingers at the players who take illegal substances as CHEATERS and want them removed from the game forever. But it's OK for Belichick and the Pats because they won 3 Superbowls, well I'm skeptical now to how they actually achieved the feat. My personal opinion is simply F-BOMB Bill Belichick, because when he was giving a chance to apologize to the fans, he totally ignored the reporter smiled and said he's here to talk about the Chargers and that's it, what a DUMB ASS! I have no respect for him and now that I think about it, he should have been suspended for 2 to 4 games, if he was a player he would've been gone for probably the whole year. Yo Goodall, ya' kind of drop the ball on this one. I know the Kraft's are thanking God this is not Formula 1 racing, I heard that the team that was caught spying on the ferrari racing team was fined $100 million bucks, now that's laying down the LAW. To all you folks out there who think what Belichick did is OK and what player's do is wrong, you're nothing but a hypocrite plain and simple.

CheramieIII · 09-14-2007, 07:14 PM

YouTube - Shady Brady and Bill Belicheat

Shady Brady and Bill Belicheat. LMAO.

CheramieIII · 09-14-2007, 07:41 PM

Everyone,

I have written e-mails to about 50 different news agencies, the NFL and all teams and here is my protest. I will not watch any other NFL games with the exception of games involving my home team. I will only watch NCAA football until Roger suspends Bill Belichick for at least 1 year.

Send this to everyone you know and join the protest.

09-14-2007, 02:57 PM	#11
patdog 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: westwego La Posts: 194	Re: Belichick fined $500K by NFL for taping Jets' signals Not enough, u do know the Pat's have 2 first round picks next year. So taking 1 of them only helps them with dealing with trying to pay 2 first rounders. And do you really think a dollar of that $500K will come from Belichick wallet? If anybody do, growup.

09-14-2007, 03:06 PM	#12
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,740	Re: Belichick fined $500K by NFL for taping Jets' signals I think the penalty is harsh enough already. What else do people want? Strip their Superbowl titles? They committed a crime... and dealing with the consequences. So taking 1 of them only helps them with dealing with trying to pay 2 first rounders. That's because they're a deep team and made smart moves during last year's draft. They're still a very good team with a smart coach, great quarterback, and players at every skill position. With or without stealing signals, they'll have no problem winning games this year. And should they win a Superbowl this year, it'll quiet all this talk.

09-14-2007, 04:04 PM	#13
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Re: Belichick fined $500K by NFL for taping Jets' signals none the less, it does put a blemish on their accomplishments in my mind... sort of like an asterisk at the beginning of a record...... he should have been suspended for so many games to say the least..... a slap on the hand will not stop this, only open the doors for new ideas how to keep it going..... the commish blew this one................ he had a chance to make people think twice about doing this and now they'll continue to think it'll be a fine and draft pick.... would you take a superbowl over a fine a draft pick?
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09-14-2007, 04:23 PM	#14
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,486 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Belichick fined $500K by NFL for taping Jets' signals and you know they've been doing it forever. Now we'll never know if Bellichick is really good or not. He wasn't crap until he started cheating and that was when he became head coach of the Patriots. What a freaking shame. They should put this guy in the cell with Convick. We'll see how good Brady and the Patriots really are now. It will take a little time for all of the teams to change up for the Patriots since they already have alot of film (cheaters). CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, cHEATERS, What a bunch of losers and you know the entire team knew about it.
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09-14-2007, 04:45 PM	#15
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,740	Re: Belichick fined $500K by NFL for taping Jets' signals So if you feel like that about Belichick... how do you feel about the players who play under him and all of his assistants who are now coaches in the NFL and college? I mean you associated Brady right away with this... so I would assume you would feel the same way about everyone who's been a Patriot during his coaching regime. I think it's sad that Mangini is the one who ratted him out. If it weren't for Belichick, Mangini would not have the impressive resume that he has now. He would not be a head coach in this league and would still be just a secondary coach. He himself has also been a part of this for years. If he was so self righteous, he should have said something years ago.
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09-14-2007, 05:40 PM	#16
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Re: Belichick fined $500K by NFL for taping Jets' signals Originally Posted by papz So if you feel like that about Belichick... how do you feel about the players who play under him and all of his assistants who are now coaches in the NFL and college? I mean you associated Brady right away with this... so I would assume you would feel the same way about everyone who's been a Patriot during his coaching regime. I think it's sad that Mangini is the one who ratted him out. If it weren't for Belichick, Mangini would not have the impressive resume that he has now. He would not be a head coach in this league and would still be just a secondary coach. He himself has also been a part of this for years. If he was so self righteous, he should have said something years ago. a case of the pot calling the kettle black.........(mangini-belichick) well, we certainly could put an end to questions about who knew anything with a lie detector test. any takers, come on, be a patriot............smitty all leagues tollerate many things, but cheating? it's un-american...............
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09-14-2007, 07:02 PM	#17
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,486 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Belichick fined $500K by NFL for taping Jets' signals Hence the word: CHEATERS! If I thought just Belichick was a cheater I would have said: CHEATER and I only called out a couple of names because I didn't feel like typing: 52 Alexander, Eric LB 6-2 240 2/8/82 3 LSU 23 Andrews, Willie CB 5-10 190 11/2/83 2 Baylor 32 Baker, Rashad S 5-10 198 2/22/82 4 Tennessee 88 Brady, Kyle TE 6-6 280 1/14/72 13 Penn State 12 Brady, Tom QB 6-4 225 8/3/77 8 Michigan 65 Britt, Wesley T 6-8 320 11/21/81 2 Alabama 98 Brown, Chad LB 6-2 245 7/12/70 15 Colorado 95 Brown, Kareem DT 6-4 295 1/30/84 R Miami (FL) 54 Bruschi, Tedy LB 6-1 247 6/9/73 12 Arizona 16 Cassel, Matt QB 6-4 230 5/17/82 3 USC 59 Colvin, Rosevelt LB 6-3 250 9/5/77 9 Purdue 44 Evans, Heath RB 6-0 250 12/30/78 7 Auburn 33 Faulk, Kevin RB 5-8 202 6/5/76 9 LSU 10 Gaffney, Jabar WR 6-1 200 12/1/80 6 Florida 21 Gay, Randall CB 5-11 190 5/5/82 4 LSU 3 Gostkowski, Stephen K 6-1 210 1/28/84 2 Memphis 97 Green, Jarvis DE 6-3 285 1/12/79 6 LSU 7 Gutierrez, Matt QB 6-4 230 6/9/84 R Idaho State 6 Hanson, Chris P 6-2 202 10/25/76 7 Marshall 27 Hobbs, Ellis CB 5-9 195 5/16/83 3 Iowa State 71 Hochstein, Russ G 6-4 305 10/7/77 6 Nebraska 53 Izzo, Larry LB 5-10 228 9/26/74 12 Rice 77 Kaczur, Nick T 6-4 315 7/28/79 3 Toledo 67 Koppen, Dan C 6-2 296 9/12/79 5 Boston College 72 Light, Matt T 6-4 305 6/23/78 7 Purdue 70 Mankins, Logan G 6-4 310 3/10/82 3 Fresno State 39 Maroney, Laurence RB 5-11 220 2/5/85 2 Minnesota 46 Mays, Corey LB 6-1 245 11/27/83 2 Notre Dame 31 Meriweather, Brandon S 5-11 200 1/14/84 R Miami (FL) 24 Mitchell, Mel S 6-1 225 2/10/79 6 Western Kentucky 34 Morris, Sammy RB 6-0 220 3/23/77 8 Texas Tech 81 Moss, Randy WR 6-4 210 2/13/77 10 Marshall 61 Neal, Stephen G 6-4 305 10/9/76 6 Cal State Bakersfield 68 O'Callaghan, Ryan T 6-7 330 7/19/83 2 California 66 Paxton, Lonie C 6-2 260 3/13/78 8 Sacramento State 22 Samuel, Asante CB 5-10 185 1/6/81 5 UCF 36 Sanders, James S 5-10 210 11/11/83 3 Fresno State 55 Seau, Junior LB 6-3 250 1/19/69 18 USC 90 Smith, Le Kevin DT 6-1 308 7/21/82 2 Nebraska 18 Stallworth, Donte' WR 6-0 200 11/10/80 6 Tennessee 96 Thomas, Adalius LB 6-2 270 8/18/77 8 Southern Miss 86 Thomas, David TE 6-3 248 7/5/83 2 Texas 92 Thomas, Santonio DT 6-4 305 7/2/81 1 Miami (FL) 50 Vrabel, Mike LB 6-4 261 8/14/75 11 Ohio State 94 Warren, Ty DT 6-5 300 2/6/81 5 Texas A&M 15 Washington, Kelley WR 6-3 215 8/21/79 5 Tennessee 84 Watson, Benjamin TE 6-3 255 12/18/80 4 Georgia 83 Welker, Wes WR 5-9 185 5/1/81 4 Texas Tech 75 Wilfork, Vince DT 6-2 325 11/4/81 4 Miami (FL) 26 Wilson, Eugene S 5-10 195 8/17/80 5 Illinois 58 Woods, Pierre LB 6-5 250 1/6/82 2 Michigan 99 Wright, Mike DT 6-4 295 3/1/82 3 Cincinnati 74 Yates, Billy G 6-2 305 4/15/80 4 Texas A&M Injured Reserve No. Player Pos Ht Wt DOB Exp College Hairston, Justise RB 6-1 210 6/27/83 R Central Connecticut State 49 Lua, Oscar LB 6-0 238 5/9/84 R USC 35 Richardson, Mike CB 5-11 190 2/18/84 R Notre Dame 30 Scott, Chad CB 6-1 205 9/6/74 11 Maryland and these guys are cheaters too and anyone who has ever played or coached for Belichick in New England is a CHEATER. Yes all of them are CHEATERS, I was just trying to save some time and site space.
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09-14-2007, 07:04 PM	#18
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Re: Belichick fined $500K by NFL for taping Jets' signals CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, I couldn't have said it better myself Cheramie. It's kind of funny how people point fingers at the players who take illegal substances as CHEATERS and want them removed from the game forever. But it's OK for Belichick and the Pats because they won 3 Superbowls, well I'm skeptical now to how they actually achieved the feat. My personal opinion is simply F-BOMB Bill Belichick, because when he was giving a chance to apologize to the fans, he totally ignored the reporter smiled and said he's here to talk about the Chargers and that's it, what a DUMB ASS! I have no respect for him and now that I think about it, he should have been suspended for 2 to 4 games, if he was a player he would've been gone for probably the whole year. Yo Goodall, ya' kind of drop the ball on this one. I know the Kraft's are thanking God this is not Formula 1 racing, I heard that the team that was caught spying on the ferrari racing team was fined $100 million bucks, now that's laying down the LAW. To all you folks out there who think what Belichick did is OK and what player's do is wrong, you're nothing but a hypocrite plain and simple.
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09-14-2007, 07:14 PM	#19
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,486 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Belichick fined $500K by NFL for taping Jets' signals YouTube - Shady Brady and Bill Belicheat Shady Brady and Bill Belicheat. LMAO.

09-14-2007, 07:41 PM	#20
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,486 Blog Entries: 3	Join the protest against the CHEATERS! Everyone, I have written e-mails to about 50 different news agencies, the NFL and all teams and here is my protest. I will not watch any other NFL games with the exception of games involving my home team. I will only watch NCAA football until Roger suspends Bill Belichick for at least 1 year. Send this to everyone you know and join the protest.