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Old 10-13-2014, 04:58 PM   #1
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Old 10-15-2014, 11:53 AM   #2
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Most scientists are atheist, no surprise.
The concept of believing in something based on "faith" and therefore not being able to actually prove existence goes against scientific thought.

See anything on you-tube from Lawrence Krauss or Richard Dawkins.

But to each his own.
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Old 10-23-2014, 01:04 PM   #3
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Old 10-29-2014, 05:34 PM   #4
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That's the thing that always bothered me, some atheists are as bad as the religious types that come to your door with their efforts to "convert" you to their way of thinking.

Want to know what I believe? I believe in respecting someone else's right to their own belief.
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Old 10-29-2014, 08:13 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 View Post
Most scientists are atheist, no surprise.
The concept of believing in something based on "faith" and therefore not being able to actually prove existence goes against scientific thought.

See anything on you-tube from Lawrence Krauss or Richard Dawkins.

But to each his own.
The funny thing is evolution and the birth of our universe are backed by theories and a theory is not fact but a belief,therefore it takes faith to belive in a theory. So, it seems that people who have faith in God are no different than those who have faith in atheism. What i find interesting is there are a lot of scientists who actually believe in a "higher power". Albert Einstein was one of them. I have yet to find someone who can prove that there isn't a God.
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Old 10-30-2014, 06:52 AM   #6
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The Pope Francis has said, “The Big Bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it. read more: Pope acknowledges evolution, Big Bang theory | Dhaka Tribune
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Re: Steven Hawking

Originally Posted by Mardigras9 View Post
Most scientists are atheist, no surprise.
The concept of believing in something based on "faith" and therefore not being able to actually prove existence goes against scientific thought.

See anything on you-tube from Lawrence Krauss or Richard Dawkins.

But to each his own.
I can't say that this is the case. Most scientists don't have the spine to state their beliefs publicly, not that they need to. Consider that if they say they don't believe in God they are persecuted by religious fundamentalists. If they state that they believe in God they are persecuted by academic atheists who will try and ruin their careers. Look to the global warming inquisition for an example.
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I can't say that this is the case. Most scientists don't have the spine to state their beliefs publicly, not that they need to. Consider that if they say they don't believe in God they are persecuted by religious fundamentalists. If they state that they believe in God they are persecuted by academic atheists who will try and ruin their careers. Look to the global warming inquisition for an example.

I'd think scientists would all believe in the creator.

Its not logical that all of the Universe came from nothing.

Its here, therefore it has to have been created.
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I'd think scientists would all believe in the creator.

Its not logical that all of the Universe came from nothing.

Its here, therefore it has to have been created.
That's true. One of the main beliefs of scientists is that something cannot come from nothing which contradicts a lot of their theories. Mr. Hawking mentioned recently that he was wrong on what he thought he knew about black holes....why should I believe what he says now? Give him a few years and he'll change his mind again.
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I recently read a pretty good little book called "The Origin Of The Universe". It was written in such a way that made it possible for non-cosmologists to have a shot at grasping things from this moment back to the singularity and how things must have transpired to place things as they are.

In some scenarios we (meaning our Galaxy as much as we meaning people) are one of many and in others, arrived at by changing some very small measure of some thing or other in the first microseconds (and much much smaller measures of time) post big bang, we are purely miraculous.

I also recently finished another book, "Zealot", which confirmed much of what I've always suspected but had fallen victim to the construct that is organized religion.

That I read a book about Jimmi Hendrix in between reading these other two might seem relevant but it is not.

Point is, I've had this sort of thing on my mind a bit lately. So I found it shocking to see what the Pope said. That was HUGE - I'm amazed it didn't get more press. I know other Popes (I'm not Catholic, forgive me) have touched on it and danced around it and even next to it, but what was said a few days ago was something I'd really hoped to hear all my adult life.

But my Paw Paw said it best in a letter he left to the family that was read at his funeral. About God he said there was no doubt that for him there WAS a God. He noted that he came to this conclusion while sitting on a log in the woods squirrel hunting...and listening...and was overwhelmed at the sounds and the things around him and figured it just couldn't have happened by accident.

People get too bent up on Jesus, The Father, Son of Man/Son of God, makeup, rock-n-roll, cutting hair, wearing pants, eating crackers and drinking wine, praying in the proper direction at the right time of day, flying planes into buildings or oh, I don't know, the inquisition!?!

Silliness in my opinion.

That God created Heaven and Earth, to me, is accurate. That he did so by setting things in motion with a "big bang" as opposed to the fantastical stories in the Bible written by men wandering around in a desert, often alone, hearing voices, and having their stories documented well after the "fact" by people whom they never knew...not to mention From Greek to Hebrew to Arabic to Latin the finally to English, and not necessarily in that order...

You get what I mean.

Evolution just makes sense, in whatever form it took from the beginning of time to now. God, I believe, most definitely DOES exist, and if Jesus were here among us today he might tell us all, "God gave us brains and expects us to USE them."

That's my .02
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