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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; i look for the death sentence until proven wrong...... did'nt we lose a game to the patriots in the last few years? NFL | Goodell to keep an open mind regarding Spygate Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:33:02 -0700 Dave Goldberg, ...

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Old 04-24-2008, 03:53 PM   #1
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ok hagan, while it may not effect this draft now,

i look for the death sentence until proven wrong......
did'nt we lose a game to the patriots in the last few years?

NFL | Goodell to keep an open mind regarding Spygate
Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:33:02 -0700

Dave Goldberg, of The Associated Press, reports NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said he will keep an open mind on the issue of Spygate. Goodell is prepared to crack down on the New England Patriots again if his meeting with former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh uncovers a tape made of the St. Louis Rams walkthrough practice before the 2002 Super Bowl.
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:48 PM   #2
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Re: ok hagan, while it may not effect this draft now,

Like I said so what. Till the rest of the NFL stops ALL forms of cheating then you got something. But that would require the League to admits it. NEVER HAPPEN. Think the fines will really amount to much? So the Pats loss picks. They will just sign more FA. Another no big deal. Besides I do not hear the players union raising a fuss. So the players do not think much about it as a group. They all know this has been going on all there lives. From little league to the pros.

The only thing the NFL can do to hurt them is ban Bill Belichick from ever coaching again. Sorry I have to LOL at that one. To get to the root of the problem they would have to ban the entire FO and his entire coaching staff just to make sure they got everyone. If the league does that you can only imagine the back lash through out the NFL. The black eye would be gigantic.

Now say they do this and it goes all out. Think about the coaches who have already spoke out and admitted that cheating is wide spread. From taping to dumpster diving for play books. They all hit the media and start talking and coming clean of all the other stuff that goes on. Imagine if players themselves started to talk. You think the NFL would really like to deal with all that back lash? They will handle it in house as do all major corps. Yes I think an envelope will be passed under the table to make it go away. Yes it will be taken and whats his name will ride off into the sunset. Do you really think this is a moral issue to him? I don't. This is his pay day. IMO (legal disclaimer)

I think the media loves this more than any of us. Ratings. They are going to keep this alive no matter how it effects the NFL or the game. They have already changed every major sport, all for the sake of ratings. They will just move on to the next topic. Fans maybe upset, but for those who have played sports at any level know this part of the game. From stealing signs to looking for a player to telegraph what direction a play is going.

I understand why and what you are saying, but I think if you want to talk about purity of the sport, I think we should address the control the media has on professional sports as a whole first. They are the driving force to cheat more than an other. Change the bad influences and you will clean up the sport. That is a rant I am sure some here do not want me to go on again. LOL

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Re: ok hagan, while it may not effect this draft now,

"do you think the NFL wants this?"

I dunno Hagan. Pesonally, I think the NFL is TERRIFIED of this. If and when the credibility of their product comes into question, they know they stand the risk of losing a few fans. Perhaps not many, or perhaps a few more than they expected - but FANS equal money, and no executive likes the prospect of losing money. I've never met one yet that didn't like the prospect of losing income.

I know you don't care much about all this Spygate stuff. And that's fine.

But I do.

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Old 04-24-2008, 08:07 PM   #4
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Re: ok hagan, while it may not effect this draft now,

I care about it. But I also realize the nfl will never do the right thing.

Remove the control the media has on the game. They are the driving force to win all cost. Nationally televised game, and all the other power moves they have to control a team and a players income. Till then I can not take it seriously. The media needs to be controlled for the betterment of the game.

But alas that will never happen.
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the longest part of any journey begins with the first step........
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:06 PM   #6
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If you are going to kill a snake you do not start with the tail.
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:32 PM   #7
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WALSH AGREEMENT ADMITS AUDIOTAPING OF PIOLI?
Posted by Mike Florio on April 23, 2008, 10:31 p.m.

So I’m reading for the twentieth time the agreement signed on Wednesday by the NFL and Matt Walsh, and something hit me.

The agreement specifically provides indemnity for Walsh with respect to “any alleged audiotaping by Walsh of any of his superiors while employed by the Club.” And that’s surely a reference to the contention from Patriots V.P. of player personnel Scott Pioli that Walsh was fired for secretly recording conversations between the two of them.

At the time, Walsh’s lawyer called the allegation a “complete fabrication.” So if it’s a complete fabrication, why would the indemnity agreement specifically include such activities? If it’s a “complete fabrication,” there’s no need to seek indemnity, is there?
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Patriots | Goodell prepared to punish team again depending on Walsh
Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:19:13 -0700

The Associated Press reports NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is prepared to crack down on the New England Patriots again if his meeting with matt Walsh uncovers a tape made of the St. Louis Rams' final walkthrough practice before the 2002 Super Bowl. "Taping a walkthrough is much different from what I punished them for," Goodell said.
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Old 04-25-2008, 04:54 AM   #9
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Fine punish them. But that does not remove the cause. well the biggest cause, the media. I just get tired off the story ending with the scapegoat. What kind of punishment? another slap on the wrist? What about all the other cheating that goes on?
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Old 04-25-2008, 05:49 AM   #10
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the death sentence.........he.he.he..................

taping a walk through is "much different" from what i punished them for. goodell
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