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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; Originally Posted by TheOak Reasons why...... College material or not.... Moot They woke up one day with an opportunity, and if they are too stupid to recognize they are being afforded an opportunity that is rare by statistical standards, and ...

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Old 07-13-2013, 12:33 AM   #11
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Re: NFL considers banning academically ineligible players from Scouting Combine

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Reasons why...... College material or not.... Moot

They woke up one day with an opportunity, and if they are too stupid to recognize they are being afforded an opportunity that is rare by statistical standards, and all they have to do to get it is get by in college. College for them is the lowest workload, least challenging classes, free tutors, and "help" with grades... If they can't get by with all of that then they need to go find something they pays minimum wage.

Why? Because in 20 fkn years they will be whining that the NFL doesn't do enough for broke veterans. If they maintained a 2.0 for three years they would only have one year to be degreed.

Brother.... You of all people should be pushing this. I'll assume you have student loans, those players go on to make at least 450k/year and don't owe a dime for the education they squandered.
I have a good bit of student loans, but the fact that they don't doesn't make me root against them. They had to work for the opportunity to get a full scholarship. If I worked hard enough maybe I would've got one too. For me to be upset would just be a jealous reaction, and I'm not big on jealousy. They weren't given an opportunity, they earned it. They were gifted enough to deserve it. These schools know exactly what they take on with these kids with barely passing GPA's in high school. You know that doesn't translate to college. How can you do college work without the basis of even having the high school skills down pact. High school doesn't even do a good job of preparing you for college or life. Its an all around dumb idea. Just another way to open up the door for more corruption in college football.

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Re: NFL considers banning academically ineligible players from Scouting Combine

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I have a good bit of student loans, but the fact that they don't doesn't make me root against them. They had to work for the opportunity to get a full scholarship. If I worked hard enough maybe I would've got one too. For me to be upset would just be a jealous reaction, and I'm not big on jealousy. They weren't given an opportunity, they earned it. They were gifted enough to deserve it. These schools know exactly what they take on with these kids with barely passing GPA's in high school. You know that doesn't translate to college. How can you do college work without the basis of even having the high school skills down pact. High school doesn't even do a good job of preparing you for college or life. Its an all around dumb idea. Just another way to open up the door for more corruption in college football.
As we covered before, I've got 10 years on you. 70% of life is just showing up physically and or mentally. What you will feel will not be jealousy for what they have or don't have, it will be compassionate anger as you recognize another person squandered a gift that would have changed his live and generations of his family's behind him.... For some its to be the first college graduate in the family.


Your lowering the bar with the "college material" prerequisite. I know some idiots with diplomas.
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Re: NFL considers banning academically ineligible players from Scouting Combine

We have this discussion around the barber shop every time a Lions player gets arrested for something, which was 2x or 3x a week for a while there , and it's really one of those, "whaddya' gonna' do?" type issues.

The NCAA is a publicly/privately funded minor-league for the NFL. Under the guise of providing an education, they recruit and develop players for the NFL. If you start focusing too much on academics more than athleticism, you wouldn't be able to field teams & the NFL owners would have the expense & headache of developing a minor-league system. So it will never change.

Back in the day, before expansion (in all sports), positions on a team were less available, more coveted and owners/coaches placed a higher premium on a player's character. More teams means more players & you're eventually going to cut some corners in order to fill rosters.

Should they ban academically ineligible players from the Scouting Combine? Morally, "yes". Is it feasible? "No".

Whaddya' gonna' do?

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Whaddya' gonna' do?
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As we covered before, I've got 10 years on you. 70% of life is just showing up physically and or mentally. What you will feel will not be jealousy for what they have or don't have, it will be compassionate anger as you recognize another person squandered a gift that would have changed his live and generations of his family's behind him.... For some its to be the first college graduate in the family.


Your lowering the bar with the "college material" prerequisite. I know some idiots with diplomas.
That's the thing. I don't get angry. I understand it happens and everybody isn't going to be perfect. I understand that s*** happens and some people are hard headed. A kid messing up his chances doesn't make me mad or dislike him, it just makes me wish somebody could've kept em on the right path because i know how it is and what most of these kids end up coming back too. All the best players I've played against are back home with me after having a shot at doing it. I'm not mad. Disappointed, but not mad.

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That's the thing. I don't get angry. I understand it happens and everybody isn't going to be perfect. I understand that s*** happens and some people are hard headed. A kid messing up his chances doesn't make me mad or dislike him, it just makes me wish somebody could've kept em on the right path because i know how it is and what most of these kids end up coming back too. All the best players I've played against are back home with me after having a shot at doing it. I'm not mad. Disappointed, but not mad.
It all falls under motivation..... Who is motivated when they know the NFL will take them no matter how bad their grades?
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