Panthers are 13-0

lumm0x · 12-14-2015, 11:16 AM

They have the 2 things needed to go deep in the playoffs. A great defense and a running game. They are where they are because Stewart has been healthy. This opens up so much for a mediocre passer like Cam. I can't see them losing a regular season game but I can see them getting beat by Arizona or Seattle in the playoffs.

CharityMike · 12-14-2015, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

They have a good defense, but their offense is smoke and mirrors. They played a Falcons team today that quit weeks ago. If Eli doesn't have one of his patented 5 interception games next week, I think the Panties will lose that game. Not because the Giants are good (they're not) but because the Panthers have been due all season to run out of luck, and with the Giants being at home and having a lot on the line, I think it might be one of those games where they show up and surprise everyone. Kind of like they do against the Patriots, a lot.

As far as how far they can go in the Playoffs, they just better hope they don't play Arizona or even Seattle, who's defense has looked a little better. Because those teams have defenses that aren't dumb enough to get sucked in to that college-type offense the Panthers like to run with Cam. They'll know to stay home and make him beat their secondary, which he won't do. He's not a very good passer, but he gets a lot of long plays down field because people overreact to his running ability, and blitz too much. If you don't immediately get to him he's going to run it right up the gut or throw it to a wide open receiver down the field. Keeping him contained in the pocket and not committing safeties to the box is the best way to stop that offense.

The Cardinals and Seahawks have the personnel to do that.

Just to play devils advocate, they already beat Seattle, in Seattle this season.

lumm0x · 12-14-2015, 11:26 AM

Seattle was a much different team then. They were struggling more on the o-line, defense didn't have it together yet. They are night and day better now.

CharityMike · 12-14-2015, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

Seattle was a much different team then. They were struggling more on the o-line, defense didn't have it together yet. They are night and day better now.

True but if they play again, it will probably be in Carolina. I'd take the home team. There D may be improved a smidge but its there Offense doing the heavy lifting. Hell, Pittsburgh put up 540 yards on them at Seattle but lost because Seattle's offense made more plays that put points on the board.

There defense doesn't scare teams as much as years past. People are now in fear of there offense which has seemed to find a groove. But with out having to worry about a running game, now that Rawls is out, lets see how good they end up being.

K Major · 12-14-2015, 11:41 AM

It'll be interesting to see how this unfolds with Carolina. I still think AZ is the much more balanced team & will end up representing the NFC in the Super Bowl.

burningmetal · 12-15-2015, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Just to play devils advocate, they already beat Seattle, in Seattle this season.

When I mentioned Seattle I said that they are looking better on defense. We all know how bad they were early in the year. Yes the 'hawks are playing better on offense, as well (after Graham went out, which is food for thought) but when you look at what they've done the last two weeks, they seem to have figured something out defensively. I can't stand that team, but I'm just looking at things for what they are. Seattle is playing better than Carolina, all the way around right now. But Arizona is a team I definitely don't see Carolina getting past.

skymike · 12-15-2015, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I think they'll do it. Unless Cam goes down I don't think there is a team that can beat them. Defensively, I think we all saw they were going to be good, but the truth is Newton has matured as a QB and the system they run is not being stopped.

On the bright side, at least the NFCS will get some love for once.

You were not sitting in the Dome A week ago.
Newton threw passes that were not in the same ZIP Code with some of his receivers. He is not an NFL quarterback. If he is, then Tim Tebow is Also.
He is a college option QB. When it truly comes down to him, he's going to find out he's not playing Vanderbilt. It's not a home coming. "This is the NFL."
Which stands for not for long, when you run around like that.
It was so beautiful watching Mike Mauti clock his head.
Just like Steve Young, he's going to run one time too many.
He's a glorified runner, not a quarterback. And when you stop his running,
You will stop the Panthers cold. Don't sweat this. They are not going anywhere.

foreverfan · 12-15-2015, 01:26 AM

This is your brain on drugs....

RailBoss · 12-15-2015, 07:18 AM

The Cardinals ticket will ride on whether Palmer stays healthy just like when they had Warner.
Seattle is getting hot at the right time and Carolina can be beat.
Hey a lowly underachieving team like us almost ruined their thunder.

Mardigras9 · 12-15-2015, 08:15 AM

I want them to go 16-0 now at this point. That will make 0-1 in the playoffs that much sweeter.

12-14-2015, 11:16 AM	#21
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Panthers are 13-0 They have the 2 things needed to go deep in the playoffs. A great defense and a running game. They are where they are because Stewart has been healthy. This opens up so much for a mediocre passer like Cam. I can't see them losing a regular season game but I can see them getting beat by Arizona or Seattle in the playoffs.

12-14-2015, 11:24 AM	#22
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Panthers are 13-0 Originally Posted by burningmetal They have a good defense, but their offense is smoke and mirrors. They played a Falcons team today that quit weeks ago. If Eli doesn't have one of his patented 5 interception games next week, I think the Panties will lose that game. Not because the Giants are good (they're not) but because the Panthers have been due all season to run out of luck, and with the Giants being at home and having a lot on the line, I think it might be one of those games where they show up and surprise everyone. Kind of like they do against the Patriots, a lot. As far as how far they can go in the Playoffs, they just better hope they don't play Arizona or even Seattle, who's defense has looked a little better. Because those teams have defenses that aren't dumb enough to get sucked in to that college-type offense the Panthers like to run with Cam. They'll know to stay home and make him beat their secondary, which he won't do. He's not a very good passer, but he gets a lot of long plays down field because people overreact to his running ability, and blitz too much. If you don't immediately get to him he's going to run it right up the gut or throw it to a wide open receiver down the field. Keeping him contained in the pocket and not committing safeties to the box is the best way to stop that offense. The Cardinals and Seahawks have the personnel to do that. Just to play devils advocate, they already beat Seattle, in Seattle this season.

12-14-2015, 11:26 AM	#23
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Panthers are 13-0 Seattle was a much different team then. They were struggling more on the o-line, defense didn't have it together yet. They are night and day better now. K Major likes this.

12-14-2015, 11:28 AM	#24
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Panthers are 13-0 Originally Posted by lumm0x Seattle was a much different team then. They were struggling more on the o-line, defense didn't have it together yet. They are night and day better now. True but if they play again, it will probably be in Carolina. I'd take the home team. There D may be improved a smidge but its there Offense doing the heavy lifting. Hell, Pittsburgh put up 540 yards on them at Seattle but lost because Seattle's offense made more plays that put points on the board. There defense doesn't scare teams as much as years past. People are now in fear of there offense which has seemed to find a groove. But with out having to worry about a running game, now that Rawls is out, lets see how good they end up being.

12-14-2015, 11:41 AM	#25
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,070 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Panthers are 13-0 It'll be interesting to see how this unfolds with Carolina. I still think AZ is the much more balanced team & will end up representing the NFC in the Super Bowl. mleg1972 and CharityMike like this.

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12-15-2015, 12:24 AM	#26
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,906 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Panthers are 13-0 Originally Posted by CharityMike Just to play devils advocate, they already beat Seattle, in Seattle this season. When I mentioned Seattle I said that they are looking better on defense. We all know how bad they were early in the year. Yes the 'hawks are playing better on offense, as well (after Graham went out, which is food for thought) but when you look at what they've done the last two weeks, they seem to have figured something out defensively. I can't stand that team, but I'm just looking at things for what they are. Seattle is playing better than Carolina, all the way around right now. But Arizona is a team I definitely don't see Carolina getting past.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

12-15-2015, 01:04 AM	#27
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Panthers are 13-0 Originally Posted by blackangold I think they'll do it. Unless Cam goes down I don't think there is a team that can beat them. Defensively, I think we all saw they were going to be good, but the truth is Newton has matured as a QB and the system they run is not being stopped. On the bright side, at least the NFCS will get some love for once. You were not sitting in the Dome A week ago. Newton threw passes that were not in the same ZIP Code with some of his receivers. He is not an NFL quarterback. If he is, then Tim Tebow is Also. He is a college option QB. When it truly comes down to him, he's going to find out he's not playing Vanderbilt. It's not a home coming. "This is the NFL." Which stands for not for long, when you run around like that. It was so beautiful watching Mike Mauti clock his head. Just like Steve Young, he's going to run one time too many. He's a glorified runner, not a quarterback. And when you stop his running, You will stop the Panthers cold. Don't sweat this. They are not going anywhere.

12-15-2015, 01:26 AM	#28
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Panthers are 13-0 This is your brain on drugs....

12-15-2015, 07:18 AM	#29
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Panthers are 13-0 The Cardinals ticket will ride on whether Palmer stays healthy just like when they had Warner. Seattle is getting hot at the right time and Carolina can be beat. Hey a lowly underachieving team like us almost ruined their thunder.

12-15-2015, 08:15 AM	#30
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Panthers are 13-0 I want them to go 16-0 now at this point. That will make 0-1 in the playoffs that much sweeter.

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