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this is a discussion within the Poli-Sci Community Forum; I know you are emotional decision makers and not very prone to logic, so I will share some with you. Your decision to want big government, regulation, and oversight is very akin to being not only pro Obama, but pro ...
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For my Liberal brethren.
I know you are emotional decision makers and not very prone to logic, so I will share some with you.
Your decision to want big government, regulation, and oversight is very akin to being not only pro Obama, but pro Goodell. You are an advocate of the Government (League) regulating and dictating everything (including suspensions) with no recourse by the people. We cant sue the government just like the CBA restricts the players from taking Goodell to court. You are an advocate of income control. There is absolutly nothing wrong with pay for performance, as long as its is player financed. You want to take away the States rights and put them in the hand of the League, the Teams should punish the players, they employ them. You are advocates of the League deciding State Law, and punishment. You advocate Unions (Obamas biggest backers), which are systematically destroying the league by demanding pensions. Players/Politicians do not work at a given job long enough for a pension and never ending health care. Obamadell lacks the experience needed to manage the business they are trying to manage. Much like Congress/Senate, the owners run the country/league... Not the President/Commissioner... They are but puppets. Harry Reid = Jerry Jones |
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Re: For my Liberal brethren.
The tone of your post typifies the Republican sentiment: attack, antagonize, criticize.
You voted for Romney, right? You probably support Boehner? Both of those gentleman responded with class after the election, offering support for Obama and encouraging Congress to work together. Boehner met with Obama and Reid. So, my question, conservative brethren, is the leaders you supported are telling you we need to work together. YOU supported them, so why aren't you listening to them now? |
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Re: For my Liberal brethren.
Why? Because I, like x626xBlack, am a realist. I also judge people by their actions and not their words. If you recall, everything that was said yesterday was a repeat of 2008. No red states, no blue states, just United States. Remember that BS. I also remember Obama's photo op with McCain. This was followed by a meeting in which Obama reminded McCain who won the election. i.e. "I don't need to listen to your ideas. SO, shut up." Obama spent the last four years disembowling anyone who offered a different vision of America. One other than tax and spend. Do you recall Obama inviting Ryan to sit in the front row in an address to congress then berating him for having the gaul to offer a plan to rescue SS, Medicare and Medicaid? President's don't act that way but dictators do.
For the last four years Obama has been saying one thing and doing another. Now we get to live Groundhog Day. Sheeple, continue to swallow this BS while being slowly led to slaughter (losing our rights as Americans). I have been living in the Cincinnati, OH area for 20 years. Boehner really is a practical business man, not the hard core right-winger that the media paints him to be. The same can't be said about Reid and Peloci. The country is facing a fiscal cliff becuase Obama demanded major changes in the deal right at the end of negotiations. So, Boehner had the fortitude to walk away. Nobody likes negotiating with used car salesmen i.e. con-artists. Understand, I am not a right wing radical. I think that the Tea Party, whose intentions are good, are damaging the party and the country but nominating people who are unelectable. Reid and McCaskill would now be in the private sector if not for the tea party. Hell, I even voted for Clinton…..once. Is our military budget too big? Yes. Take some of the DARPA money and spend it on advanced energy programs (not managed by a politicized DOE). Take the US to nuclear (thorium) power and natural gas transportation fuels and we don't need a big, high tech military to protect middle east oil and our economy. Do it Manhattan Project and Apollo Lunar program style. Get there by the end of the decade. Note that the US has figured out how to burn corn in our cars. Let the arabs figure out how to eat sand. None of this will happen because any cuts in the military will be funneled to special interest groups, unions, bundlers, etc. that Obama owes for being re-elected. Do I hope Obama and Boehner will meet in the center and do something that is in the best interest of our country. Damn right. Do I expect this to really happen. Hell no. I'm not a pessimist or a partisan. Just a realist. |
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Re: For my Liberal brethren.
Do you know that is very difficult to put one sheep in a holding pin. But it isn't difficult at all to build a fence around the whole flock. This is what is happening in America today. They are making people slaves to the money machine while most don't even realize it.
Consider... when they house, cloth, educate, tell you what to think and feed you.... well that sounds a lot like slavery to me. |
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Re: For my Liberal brethren.
Originally Posted by ScottF
Due to the fact that the answers to both of your initial questions are no... Your assumptions lead me to believe you are the typical Liberal or Conservative (both listed), where you only know black and white. You have been sucked into the us vs them mentality that present day politicians thrive off of. With out an enemy they have to actually explain what they THEMSELVES will do instead of reading what their enemy has or hasn't done off of a teleprompter. The standard Liberal approach is "Vote for me because he sucks"...
In regards to the paragraph below your questions, that is posturing, nothing genuine. To the third paragraph, I can only state that the last Leaders I recognized were Washington, Lee, and Patton. They lead men, not sheep. Reagan is the only thing resembling a politician that may fall into that category. Every other modern day President has lead the lambs to the slaughter. Bush (W), Clinton, Obama... Or were not leaders (full stop).. Herbert Walker Bush, Carter, Ford.... I am not sure which I would classify as the lesser of two evils. They both damage this Country and its people immensely. In summation, I am of the opinion that anyone that takes a Politicians word or direction for face value is exercising blind trust, doesn't understand the "big picture", and clearly has not taken motivational issues into account. In God and my wife I trust... Everyone else pays cash. Liberals are making a push to move this country towards the European model (Evidence is the overwhelming joy from Europe to Obama's reelection), and while it does give present day bleeding hearts the warm fuzzies; it is a road map to failure. Look at Spain's (bankrupt), Greece's (bankrupt), France's (no growth in decades), Ireland's, Italy's economy's. All have been bailed out of their own mess or are in line for bail outs. We are much younger than any of those Nations and are failing to learn from their mistakes. This may help you understand me. http://blackandgold.com/poli/52008-b...-replying.html (Before I start replying) I am a constitutionalist, pragmatist, a realist. I took an oath to defend this Nation and its flag against all enemy's both foreign and DOMESTIC. If you keep buying into the Us vs Them mentality, you will burn to a crisp with out ever seeing the flames. |
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Re: For my Liberal brethren.
Jeese its eerie how the two replies before mine all echo each other somewhat... I was busy typing when they were posted and had not read them until after.
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Re: For my Liberal brethren.
Black. The issue with the echo may be because I was editing my original post with some additional content.
I enjoy your writings and philosophy. |
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Re: For my Liberal brethren.
Originally Posted by x626xBlack
Reagan might have been a good leader and by all accounts seems t have been a good man but his economic politics were an utter disaster that put your country in a really though spot.
Originally Posted by x626xBlack
There are however great cultural differences in europe so saying the european model isn't really correct. You can't for example compare Germany and Greece since the culture is totally different. It would kinda be like comparing USA and Japan. The (Lutheran) countries in northern europe have a culture that puts a premier on hard work, saving money, not spending if you don't have etc. Thats why northern europe has remained pretty untouched by the economical depression in comparison to the south. Spain is suffering from the equivalent of the Subprime loans in florida makin their whole property market colapse. Greece is just the perfect ****storm, low taxes and little work combined with crazy benefits, rampant corruption and a huge dependancy on foregin money trough torism has set that country up to fail miserably. I personally think they should have been kicked ou of the european union and allowed to go bankrupt.
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