Howard and Bentley

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-19-2006, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Olin Kreutz of the Bears is the best center in football. If he wants top center money, offer him something close to the money Olin is making. If he wants top guard money, give him Hutchinson type money. As far as franchising the guy, that would be silly. No need to pay top 5 OL money to a ProBowl center or guard. You franchise tackles... not centers and guards who can easily be replaced.

I not saying to franchise him to pay him franchise money. I'm saying to franchise him so that the Saints can get a chance to continue to negotiate that Kreutz/Hutchinson type money.

Who would you consider replacing him with?

SFIAH

papz · 02-19-2006, 07:50 PM

Mike Flanagan, Justin Hartwig, or Jeff Mitchell to name a few... or a draft pick.

D_it_up · 02-19-2006, 08:00 PM

I hope Mitchell brings his steroids with him if he comes.

FanNJ · 02-20-2006, 08:55 AM

Franchise him. So we don't loose him for free.

hagan714 · 02-20-2006, 09:12 AM

at the least get the 2 #1 for a perinnial pro bowler. We pay him or at least make another team pay for such a loss. I still say transitition the man and go for the top 10 pay and let him shop his services. we need to learn from the mistake we made with howard

FanNJ · 02-20-2006, 09:15 AM

Tag him, then sign him or take the offer on the table. Why get burnt twice. Ya hell be expensive to tag but Howards good as gone so some free monies are there.

hagan714 · 02-20-2006, 09:28 AM

Not enough to justify i think. if we loose him we will have to keep alot of wasted $$. gandy, mayberry

dwiley21 · 02-20-2006, 10:24 AM

I don't feel its worth the extra money to franchise him. He's already sold his house, and if he doesn't want to be here LET HIM GO! The team doesn't need the distraction or potential problem in the locker room. I have Faith that the coaching and front office staff are putting together a good battle plan to get rid of the teams dead weight and upgrade the areas needed. Besides no team is going to give up a first round pick for him, and what exactly did franchising Howard get us (NADA). If they plan on keeping him try to resign him in FA. I'd rather get in a bidding war with J'ville as I feel the price will still be cheaper than tagging him.

BlackandBlue · 02-20-2006, 11:47 PM

we lose Bentley, go ahead and mark that 2nd round pick for Mangold.

i have no idea as to the current cap status of the Saints, so I will refrain from passing judgement on whether or not a player should be franchised or transitioned.

AllSaints · 02-21-2006, 07:00 PM

If let Bently go we better be doing something in FA im tired of this shiiiiiiiiit in the offseason time to make some movees go after some good ppl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAH! !! !

02-19-2006, 07:28 PM	#21
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Howard and Bentley Originally Posted by papz Olin Kreutz of the Bears is the best center in football. If he wants top center money, offer him something close to the money Olin is making. If he wants top guard money, give him Hutchinson type money. As far as franchising the guy, that would be silly. No need to pay top 5 OL money to a ProBowl center or guard. You franchise tackles... not centers and guards who can easily be replaced. I not saying to franchise him to pay him franchise money. I'm saying to franchise him so that the Saints can get a chance to continue to negotiate that Kreutz/Hutchinson type money. Who would you consider replacing him with? SFIAH

02-19-2006, 07:50 PM	#22
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,686	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Howard and Bentley Mike Flanagan, Justin Hartwig, or Jeff Mitchell to name a few... or a draft pick.

02-19-2006, 08:00 PM	#23
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Howard and Bentley I hope Mitchell brings his steroids with him if he comes.

02-20-2006, 08:55 AM	#24
FanNJ 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 324	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Howard and Bentley Franchise him. So we don't loose him for free.
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02-20-2006, 09:15 AM	#26
FanNJ 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 324	Tag him, then sign him or take the offer on the table. Why get burnt twice. Ya hell be expensive to tag but Howards good as gone so some free monies are there.
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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	at the least get the 2 #1 for a perinnial pro bowler. We pay him or at least make another team pay for such a loss. I still say transitition the man and go for the top 10 pay and let him shop his services. we need to learn from the mistake we made with howard

02-20-2006, 09:28 AM	#27
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Not enough to justify i think. if we loose him we will have to keep alot of wasted $$. gandy, mayberry

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dwiley21 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 216	I don't feel its worth the extra money to franchise him. He's already sold his house, and if he doesn't want to be here LET HIM GO! The team doesn't need the distraction or potential problem in the locker room. I have Faith that the coaching and front office staff are putting together a good battle plan to get rid of the teams dead weight and upgrade the areas needed. Besides no team is going to give up a first round pick for him, and what exactly did franchising Howard get us (NADA). If they plan on keeping him try to resign him in FA. I'd rather get in a bidding war with J'ville as I feel the price will still be cheaper than tagging him.
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02-20-2006, 11:47 PM	#29
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	we lose Bentley, go ahead and mark that 2nd round pick for Mangold. i have no idea as to the current cap status of the Saints, so I will refrain from passing judgement on whether or not a player should be franchised or transitioned.

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AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	If let Bently go we better be doing something in FA im tired of this shiiiiiiiiit in the offseason time to make some movees go after some good ppl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAH! !! !