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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I AM SORRY THAT I OFFENDED YOU JOE, BUT THEY\'RE NOWAY POSSIBLE THIS WAS A GOOD DRAFT. YOU SAY WALLY WILLIAMS IS OLD, WELL YOU CAN SAY THE SAME BOUT THE CB\'S. RASHEAN MATHIS WAS THERE ON THE BOARD AND ...

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Old 04-27-2003, 08:56 PM   #41
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I AM SORRY THAT I OFFENDED YOU JOE, BUT THEY\'RE NOWAY POSSIBLE THIS WAS A GOOD DRAFT. YOU SAY WALLY WILLIAMS IS OLD, WELL YOU CAN SAY THE SAME BOUT THE CB\'S. RASHEAN MATHIS WAS THERE ON THE BOARD AND I AM SURE HIS POINTS WAS HIGHER THAN \"STINCHCOMB.\"

WE NEED A GM WHO CAN PICK PLAYERS WHO CAN HELP THE TEAM ....NOW, NOT A GM WHO PICK PLAYERS SO THEY CAN USE FOR BARGAINNING CHIPS. I CAN UNDERSTAND PICKING ONE OL, BUT 2, WHEN THEY\'RE A BETTER NEED PLAYER(IMPACT PLAYER) ON THE BOARD I JUST CAN\'T SWALLOW.

I ASK EVERYONE, WHO WILL YOU PICK? STINCHCOMB OR MATHIS? HOLLAND OR JAMES? IF YOU PICKED A OL, WHY I NEVER HEARD YOU POST THE GUY IN HERE? I DOUBT IF ANYONE OF THEM \"OL\" EVEN START.

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Old 04-27-2003, 09:01 PM   #42
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Well Rod you did. The reason you didn\'t find my picks on this board is because I don\'t do the picking. I had somepeople that I would have liked to see picked but they didn\'t get picked. I just have to believe that the coaching staff knows more about this than I do.
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Old 04-27-2003, 09:07 PM   #43
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Given that I could have had a perfect world where everything fell the way I wanted it... (and in light of what I know now that I didn\'t know then)... you guys are gonna laugh, I know...

1) trade up for Robertson/Sullivan
2) slight trade up for Bailey
3) Cie Grant
4-7) depth (CB, OL, S)

This is all contingent on getting Fontenot resigned, of course.

Laugh it up, guys.
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Old 04-27-2003, 09:12 PM   #44
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I would have been happy with that too. I do hope Jerry re-signs with us but it\'s not a done deal yet. I\'ll believe it when the ink is on the paper. I guess it\'s a good thing i\'m not doing the draft for the Saints. LOL
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Old 04-27-2003, 09:15 PM   #45
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I WANT YOU SAINT\'S FAN TO KNOW I AM STILL EXCITED BOUT OUR TEAM CHANCES FOR THIS YEAR, BUT DISAPPOINTED CUZ I FELT WE COULD\'VE PICK PLAYERS IN THIS DRAFT TO START A DYNASTY THAT WOULD\'VE BEEN BETTER OR EQUAL TO THE 49ERS OR COWBOYS. HAVING TWO SUCCESFUL DRAFT I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO A THIRD ONE.

I JUST HOPE THAT I AM TOTALLY WRONG WITH MY ASSESSMENT WITH THESE PICKS
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Old 04-27-2003, 09:17 PM   #46
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I\'m near-certain that Fontenot\'s not going to re-sign.

1) he\'s old
2) he was critical (and vocal) about the Turley trade
3) he gets a 14-year veteran\'s salary
4) good OL was signed in the draft

I could be wrong, but I believe the Saints have no intention of bringing him back.
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Old 04-27-2003, 09:19 PM   #47
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John Clayton said today that Fontenot was close to re-signing with the Saints. If he does, and I do hope he does. He\'d make on hell of a player coach to teach these kids the center position.

[Edited on 28/4/2003 by JOESAM2002]
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Old 04-27-2003, 09:32 PM   #48
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If he re-signs, then I see no reason for them to have skipped on Bradie James. I mean, I\'m sure Holland will be fine, but I see a stronger need for LB than I do for OL depth/project.

Haz and crew are putting a lot of faith in Allen/Ruff/Hodge. Allen is the only part of that equation I feel ok with.
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Old 04-27-2003, 10:37 PM   #49
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As a guy who studied finance in school - one thing always seems to pop into my mind when we\'re talking about this stuff... \"Past performance is not a predictor of future growth.\"

While that works in financial markets, it\'s far less true in the world of pro football. Although, the theory still holds true, every single coach, scout, GM, etc. rates players based, at least partially, on what they\'ve done on the field in the past... right?

If that\'s the case, let me tell you my opinion of Haslett and Co. They seem to be incredible at finding young/undiscovered offensive talent. However, every move they\'ve made on defense has flopped terribly (Hand, Jackson, Hodge was not very good last year, nor was Clemons, who was great the year before, after THEY moved him to MLB, Carter being able to stay out of trouble, Hawthorne as a starter at CB, Knight as a focal point on D, getting rid of Glover (pro bowler), Johnson (who was on his way until he got hurt)... etc. etc. etc.)

This is why I find it hard to be positive about the Saints\' defense improving much. If Ruff and Jones and Ambrose play up to the level that basically every defensive addition other than Grant and Howard have, we\'ll be pretty disappointed. Again, I think we\'ve made the right moves with guys like T-buc, Sullivan (although we overpaid)... etc. But, the bottom line is that if you look at Haslett and Co\'s past performance in terms of evaluating defensive talent, you see a pretty ugly picture. Wouldn\'t you agree JOE? Gator? It\'s hard to say that our defense has done anything but get worse year in and year out since 1999.

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Old 04-27-2003, 10:47 PM   #50
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As a former defensive player i\'d have to say yes you\'re right. I have been disappointed in the play of the defense. With the people you\'ve named you would think they would have been much better. As for losing so many players to free agency. You\'re only as good as your owner. Having spent 30 years in the car business the one person I would NEVER work for is Tom Benson. He is a true car dealer, all he cares about is money. Not his people nor his customers. Never has ,never will. To tell you a short story. When Benson was buying the team I had some friends that played for the Saints. They used to every now and then give good fans a game jersey or something from the team. I was told when Benson bought the team he inventoried everything right down to individual rolls of tape. I\'m not sure we can blame all the free agent loses to the coaching staff with what I know about Benson.
P.S. I guess what i\'m trying to say is when you have someone so much in control of the money it might be hard to keep people you might want to keep. It would be hard to tell the owner to go to hell I\'m keeping said palyer.

[Edited on 28/4/2003 by JOESAM2002]

Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt!!!!!

"Every time you think, you weaken the nation!" Moe Howard...The Three Stooges.
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