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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Lets speculate, for a moment, that we have another late season collapse and Haz gets canned. Who gets to replace him? Any thoughts on Dennis Green? With Loomis handling the more technical work of contracts and trades and such, Rick ...

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Old 04-29-2003, 11:58 PM   #1
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Haz on the hot seat

Lets speculate, for a moment, that we have another late season collapse and Haz gets canned. Who gets to replace him? Any thoughts on Dennis Green? With Loomis handling the more technical work of contracts and trades and such, Rick Muller and his staff continuing their fine job, why not throw in Deny Green? He had some great years in Minnesota and could really help this team establish that identiy we've been looking for for a 60 years.
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If we dont make the playoffs or lose in the first round, do you think that will have an impact on Haz' job security?

Personally im 100% behind Haz. Should something end his tenure with this team, it would be imperative to get a coach who is a verifiable "guru" at his trade(i.d. gruden, lewis). Someone with an incredibly innovative mind and "street cred" if there is such a thing in the NFL.

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Old 04-30-2003, 12:47 AM   #2
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I still think we should have brought in Ray Rhodes as defensive co-ordinator.
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Old 04-30-2003, 08:34 AM   #3
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I was hoping that we would have brought Campo in here and fired Venturi. He\'s not much of a head coach, but he\'s one helluva defensive coordinator. He knew that even though he would be fired, he would have no problems finding work. And it took all of a couple of weeks for him to land in Cleveland.
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I totally agree with the Dave Campo idea. I was ticked when the Brown snapped him up fast, but that goes back to the Butch Davis-Cowboys connection and they likely know each other quite well. Venturi has to be replaced. I would like to see Rick stay with the team as I\'m sure he has contributions to make but evidently not in the same capacity as he is in now.
Ray Rhodes was another good name.
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Old 04-30-2003, 09:41 AM   #5
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Is was screaming for Ray Rhodes also Joe.... but Campo also would have been a nice fit. The guy that the Browns canned (actually he \"retired\") whose name I can\'t remember right now also would have been nice.

IF Haslett gets canned, and like Gator I believe that is very unlikely unless we have a total meltdown year and go 3-13 or something, I\'d like to see us go that new direction. I am not real excited about Green. He couldn\'t get it done in Minnesota for years when he had good teams. It would be like Mora again. Can\'t win when it counts. I\'ll tell you what... the Bayou Bengals have themselves a pretty decent coach who I wouldn\'t mind seeing have a shot at the big time.

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Being a longtime fan of Buddy Ryan\'s whose name I posted a few days back.....two individuals have really interested me as far as future Defensive coordinators....his two sons.

Rex is the D-Line coach of the Ravens for the last 5 years and Rob is the linebackers coach of the Patriots for the last 3 years. Both coached at Oklahoma State and seem to be quite good at their respective positions. Here\'s a little bio of each, but like football itself, usually the apple doesn\'t fall too far from the tree and if they have half the ingenuity of their dad they will give a fresh look to defense for years to come:

Rex Ryan
Career Summary:
Rex Ryan is in his fourth year coaching the Ravens’ defensive line. The Ravens’ record-setting defense has not permitted a 100-yard rusher in 33 games (37 including the playoffs), the longest streak since the 1993-95 Chargers had a string of 34 games without allowing a 100-yard rusher. The longest such streak prior to the Chargers streak was 53 consecutive games by the Eagles from 1989 to 1992. Last season, Sam Adams earned his first trip to the Pro Bowl and the Ravens set a 16-game NFL record by allowing only 970 yards rushing and 2.68 yards per rushing attempt.

Baltimore’s streak was the longest since the 1993-95 Chargers had a string of 34 games without allowing a 100-yard rusher. Prior to the Chargers, the Eagles’ 53-game streak occurred in 1989-92. The Ravens set a 16-game NFL record in 2000 by allowing only 970 yards rushing and 2.68 yards per rushing attempt.

In 2002, Ryan will help defensive coordinator Mike Nolan implement the 3-4 defense, but the Ravens will continue to use a number of different defensive looks, including the 4-3. Last season, Baltimore finished second in the NFL in defense, fourth against the run and eighth against the pass. The Ravens’ defense finished in the NFL’s top four in several important categories, including first in total yards allowed per play
(4.4), second in total yards allowed per game (277.9), and third in rushing average allowed per play (3.4). Baltimore was fourth in the NFL in fewest points allowed with 265.

Rex joined Brian Billick’s staff in 1999 after spending the 1998 season as Oklahoma’s defensive coordinator. Rex coached the Sooners defense after spending two seasons as defensive coordinator at the University of Cincinnati. He has used the “46â₠¬? defense, created by his father, Buddy, throughout his coaching career. Oklahoma’s defense ranked sixth in the nation in total defense. While at Cincinnati (1996-97), the defense ranked 5th and 13th in his two seasons.

“Rex is an extremely enthusiastic coach with NFL experience,â€? said Brian Billick. “Heâ₠¬â„¢s considered one of the best young defensive minds in the game today.â€?

Ryan spent two seasons (1994 and ‘95) with the Arizona Cardinals, his first season coaching the defensive line and his second, the linebackers. In 1994, the Cardinals ranked in the NFL’s top five in every defensive statistical category, including third in overall defense.

Before joining the NFL, Ryan was defensive coordinator at Morehead (KY) State from 1990-93. In 1989, Rex was assistant head coach and defensive coordinator at New Mexico Highlands. He started his collegiate coaching career as defensive ends coach at Eastern Kentucky in 1987.

Ryan played collegiately at Southwestern Oklahoma State. He received a master’s degree from Eastern Kentucky in 1988. Ryan attended Stevenson High School in Prairie View, IL. His brother, Rob, is linebackers coach in New England under Bill Belichick. Rex and his wife, Michelle, have two sons: Payton (8) and Seth (7). The Ryans live in Ellicott City, MD.


Rob Ryan
Rob Ryan, now enjoying his 16th coaching season, including his fifth in the NFL, joined the Patriots when he was named linebackers coach on Bill Belichick’s staff on Feb. 18, 2000. For the past two years, he has worked more specifically with the outside linebackers.

Last year, he contributed to one of the best scoring defenses in franchise history, as the Patriots allowed just 17 points per game. It was the lowest point production allowed by the Patriots in 24 years when the 1977 squad held their opponents to just 15.5 points per game. The defense was one of the league’s most opportunistic as well, forcing 35 turnovers and capitalizing on five interceptions that were returned for touchdowns. Roman Phifer, Mike Vrabel and Tedy Bruschi all had stellar seasons and were critical to the team’s Super Bowl success in 2001. Vrabel had a career-year, totaling more tackles with the Patriots (60) than he had in four seasons with Pittsburgh.

Ryan received his first NFL coaching experience in 1994 and 1995 as the defensive backs coach of the Arizona Cardinals. In 1994, Cardinals cornerback Aeneas Williams recorded a career-high nine interceptions and earned his first trip to the Pro Bowl. Williams returned to the Pro Bowl in 1995. In two seasons, he contributed 15 of the secondary’s 32 interceptions. The Cardinals 32 interceptions and 42 total takeaways led the NFL in 1995.

Ryan joined the Patriots following a three-year assignment (1997-99) as the defensive coordinator at Oklahoma State. During his tenure, the Cowboys defense was continually ranked among the best in the nation. In 1999, they were ranked 10th in the nation in total defense and ninth in passing yards allowed. In 1998, they were second in the nation with 41 sacks. In his first season at Oklahoma State, the Cowboys defense finished among the nation’s top 20 in turnover margin, rushing defense, scoring defense and total defense, allowing just 302.7 yards per game. It was an improvement of more than 100 yards per game from the year before (407.2 ypg). In turn, the team improved from 5-6 in 1996 to 8-4, earning an invitation to play in the Alamo Bowl. It was Oklahoma State’s first bowl appearance since 1988.

He began his coaching career as an assistant at Western Kentucky in 1987. He moved on to Ohio State in 1988, where he coached outside linebackers. Ryan then spent five seasons at Tennessee State, where he coached running backs (1989-91), linebackers (1992) and the defensive line (1993) before entering the NFL ranks with Arizona in 1994. In 1996, he accepted a position as the defensive coordinator at Hutchinson Community College. That year, they led the nation in total defense (228 yards per game) and in quarterback sacks (56). His defense also set a national record by forcing 49 turnovers, which generated eight touchdowns in 10 games. They also led the Jayhawk conference in total defense, run defense and pass defense.
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Can we get both the Ryan boys? :P
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Old 04-30-2003, 03:55 PM   #8
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I would love to get them both and have them be co-coordinators. I think they could bring alot of innovation to our defense. They do have experience and a proven track record....and almost as important....lineage.
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