Where are all the haters now!!!!!

jergensl · 10-16-2006, 09:30 PM

what about matt leinart?

come on haters identify yourselves!

"he just had a lot of talent around him"
"his arm is too weak"
"he won't be able to start his first year"

reggie was the right pick for us, but the cardinals have their QB for the future. we have our QB and our REGGIE for the future. (i decided bush is not a real RB or a WR, so created the REGGIE position)

will we ever see Arizona vs New Orleans in the Super Bowl? not this year, but it could be within 3 years...as long as both teams keep moving in the right direction.

26DEUCE26 · 10-16-2006, 09:38 PM

We'll never see Arizona vs. New Orleans in the Super Bowl because they're both in the same conference.

jergensl · 10-16-2006, 09:43 PM

oh wow...i am an idiot

sorry for the idiocy there guys...its been a long day

again...i am a moooooorrrrrrrooooon!

how about NFC Championship Game?

TheGambler · 10-17-2006, 08:27 AM

Same Arizona Cardinals that blew a 20 point lead last night and coudln't beat the Bears despite 6 turnovers from Grossman.

That was just embarrassing and reinforces the fact that Dennis Green will never take a team anywhere significant.

poydras · 10-17-2006, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by TheGambler

Same Arizona Cardinals that blew a 20 point lead last night and coudln't beat the Bears despite 6 turnovers from Grossman.

That was just embarrassing and reinforces the fact that Dennis Green will never take a team anywhere significant.

That game reminded me of the Saints of old. There was NO reason to go into a slow down mode in the first half like they did.

jrmllb · 10-17-2006, 08:33 AM

They need a Payton...Dennis wont make it to next year...Look for Pete Carroll or someone like Donnie Henderson to come in...Defense minded head coach along with a top notch offensive coordinator...

thib82 · 10-17-2006, 08:39 AM

Last nights game was horrible for both teams. The only good thing that came of that game, was the bears defense showed they can win games by themselves. Leinart did prove that he will be a good NFL QB, but I don't think it will be under Dennis Green as the headcoach. It isn't the Cardinals that can't hold leads or finish games, it's Green. The play calling last night was just plain horrible in the second half. Having to listen to Joe Thiesman talk about how he loves the play calling was just rediculous. How do you blow a 20 point lead with just over 16 minutes left in the game? By not running the ball, thats how. I know arizona's running game was pathetic last night, but you have to bleed the clock and protect the ball, which the cardinals did neither. If the Saints vs. Eagles game was won by us because of good coaching, then last night was a perfect example of bad coaching and preperation,IMO.

poydras · 10-17-2006, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by thib82

Last nights game was horrible for both teams. The only good thing that came of that game, was the bears defense showed they can win games by themselves. Leinart did prove that he will be a good NFL QB, but I don't think it will be under Dennis Green as the headcoach. It isn't the Cardinals that can't hold leads or finish games, it's Green. The play calling last night was just plain horrible in the second half. Having to listen to Joe Thiesman talk about how he loves the play calling was just rediculous. How do you blow a 20 point lead with just over 16 minutes left in the game? By not running the ball, thats how. I know arizona's running game was pathetic last night, but you have to bleed the clock and protect the ball, which the cardinals did neither. If the Saints vs. Eagles game was won by us because of good coaching, then last night was a perfect example of bad coaching and preperation,IMO.

You have to play to win instead of play not to lose.

thib82 · 10-17-2006, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

Originally Posted by thib82

Last nights game was horrible for both teams. The only good thing that came of that game, was the bears defense showed they can win games by themselves. Leinart did prove that he will be a good NFL QB, but I don't think it will be under Dennis Green as the headcoach. It isn't the Cardinals that can't hold leads or finish games, it's Green. The play calling last night was just plain horrible in the second half. Having to listen to Joe Thiesman talk about how he loves the play calling was just rediculous. How do you blow a 20 point lead with just over 16 minutes left in the game? By not running the ball, thats how. I know arizona's running game was pathetic last night, but you have to bleed the clock and protect the ball, which the cardinals did neither. If the Saints vs. Eagles game was won by us because of good coaching, then last night was a perfect example of bad coaching and preperation,IMO.

You have to play to win instead of play not to lose.

That is true, but there is a difference in playing not to lose and playing ball control. When you have a 20 point lead that late in the game, you play not to lose by not putting your players in position to make mistakes, especially against a great defense like the bears.It doesn;t matter if the running game was ineffective, you still run the ball. Being that the bears offense wasn't playing well at all, there is nothing wrong with running the ball three times, bleed the clock and punt the ball. The bears offense didn't get into any kind or rythm the whole game, give credit the cards defense for playing hard, but the bears offense were out of rythm all game, make the offense beat you, becasue last night, they weren't going to win the game for them last night.

poydras · 10-17-2006, 10:21 AM

I was talking about the first half. It seemed to me that the cardinals got REAL conservative after being up 14. Out of all those turnovers on the bears end of the field, they only got 6 pts. The crowd was also booing the conservative playcalling wanting the cards to stick it to them while they were down.

10-16-2006, 09:30 PM	#1
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	Where are all the haters now!!!!! what about matt leinart? come on haters identify yourselves! "he just had a lot of talent around him" "his arm is too weak" "he won't be able to start his first year" reggie was the right pick for us, but the cardinals have their QB for the future. we have our QB and our REGGIE for the future. (i decided bush is not a real RB or a WR, so created the REGGIE position) will we ever see Arizona vs New Orleans in the Super Bowl? not this year, but it could be within 3 years...as long as both teams keep moving in the right direction.

10-16-2006, 09:38 PM	#2
26DEUCE26 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 116	We'll never see Arizona vs. New Orleans in the Super Bowl because they're both in the same conference.
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10-17-2006, 08:27 AM	#4
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Same Arizona Cardinals that blew a 20 point lead last night and coudln't beat the Bears despite 6 turnovers from Grossman. That was just embarrassing and reinforces the fact that Dennis Green will never take a team anywhere significant.
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10-17-2006, 08:33 AM	#5
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Originally Posted by TheGambler Same Arizona Cardinals that blew a 20 point lead last night and coudln't beat the Bears despite 6 turnovers from Grossman. That was just embarrassing and reinforces the fact that Dennis Green will never take a team anywhere significant. That game reminded me of the Saints of old. There was NO reason to go into a slow down mode in the first half like they did.

10-17-2006, 08:46 AM	#8
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Originally Posted by thib82 Last nights game was horrible for both teams. The only good thing that came of that game, was the bears defense showed they can win games by themselves. Leinart did prove that he will be a good NFL QB, but I don't think it will be under Dennis Green as the headcoach. It isn't the Cardinals that can't hold leads or finish games, it's Green. The play calling last night was just plain horrible in the second half. Having to listen to Joe Thiesman talk about how he loves the play calling was just rediculous. How do you blow a 20 point lead with just over 16 minutes left in the game? By not running the ball, thats how. I know arizona's running game was pathetic last night, but you have to bleed the clock and protect the ball, which the cardinals did neither. If the Saints vs. Eagles game was won by us because of good coaching, then last night was a perfect example of bad coaching and preperation,IMO. You have to play to win instead of play not to lose.

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10-16-2006, 09:43 PM	#3
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	oh wow...i am an idiot sorry for the idiocy there guys...its been a long day again...i am a moooooorrrrrrrooooon! how about NFC Championship Game?

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jrmllb 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Posts: 665	They need a Payton...Dennis wont make it to next year...Look for Pete Carroll or someone like Donnie Henderson to come in...Defense minded head coach along with a top notch offensive coordinator...

10-17-2006, 08:39 AM	#7
thib82 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Carencro, LA Posts: 211	Last nights game was horrible for both teams. The only good thing that came of that game, was the bears defense showed they can win games by themselves. Leinart did prove that he will be a good NFL QB, but I don't think it will be under Dennis Green as the headcoach. It isn't the Cardinals that can't hold leads or finish games, it's Green. The play calling last night was just plain horrible in the second half. Having to listen to Joe Thiesman talk about how he loves the play calling was just rediculous. How do you blow a 20 point lead with just over 16 minutes left in the game? By not running the ball, thats how. I know arizona's running game was pathetic last night, but you have to bleed the clock and protect the ball, which the cardinals did neither. If the Saints vs. Eagles game was won by us because of good coaching, then last night was a perfect example of bad coaching and preperation,IMO.

10-17-2006, 10:00 AM	#9
thib82 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Carencro, LA Posts: 211	Originally Posted by poydras Originally Posted by thib82 Last nights game was horrible for both teams. The only good thing that came of that game, was the bears defense showed they can win games by themselves. Leinart did prove that he will be a good NFL QB, but I don't think it will be under Dennis Green as the headcoach. It isn't the Cardinals that can't hold leads or finish games, it's Green. The play calling last night was just plain horrible in the second half. Having to listen to Joe Thiesman talk about how he loves the play calling was just rediculous. How do you blow a 20 point lead with just over 16 minutes left in the game? By not running the ball, thats how. I know arizona's running game was pathetic last night, but you have to bleed the clock and protect the ball, which the cardinals did neither. If the Saints vs. Eagles game was won by us because of good coaching, then last night was a perfect example of bad coaching and preperation,IMO. You have to play to win instead of play not to lose. That is true, but there is a difference in playing not to lose and playing ball control. When you have a 20 point lead that late in the game, you play not to lose by not putting your players in position to make mistakes, especially against a great defense like the bears.It doesn;t matter if the running game was ineffective, you still run the ball. Being that the bears offense wasn't playing well at all, there is nothing wrong with running the ball three times, bleed the clock and punt the ball. The bears offense didn't get into any kind or rythm the whole game, give credit the cards defense for playing hard, but the bears offense were out of rythm all game, make the offense beat you, becasue last night, they weren't going to win the game for them last night.

10-17-2006, 10:21 AM	#10
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	I was talking about the first half. It seemed to me that the cardinals got REAL conservative after being up 14. Out of all those turnovers on the bears end of the field, they only got 6 pts. The crowd was also booing the conservative playcalling wanting the cards to stick it to them while they were down.