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Tobias-Reiper · 10-21-2006, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by BJSim

... to be fair to Vick, if Mora Jr doesn't let him throw, he's never going to improve as a passer.

... to be fair to Mora Jr, if you've got the number one rushing offense in the league, why wouldn't you run it first AND second down?

Vick needs to understand he's supposed to be a leader, not a problem, for his team. Leaders don't bad-mouth the organization or the coach. You smile and nod and say 'we're working on some things to make ourselves better.'

I've said it hundreds of times and I'll keep saying it... Vick is the best RB playing at QB in the league.

... because everyone is expecting you to run it on 1st and second, putting 8-9 in the box, therefore you have man on man coverage on your WRs and can torch them with play action?

The Falcons are getting beat because no one respects their passing game. They stick 8-9 in the box to stop Dunn and Vick from running, and Vick doesn't have the passing skills to make defense pay, other than the occasional bomb. Even in obvious passing downs, neither the Saints defense or the Giants defense went to nickel or dime packages, because the odds are way against the Falcons torching you with the passing game.

I'm not trying to defend Vick, though. I have never cared much about him as a player, even when he was being hyped while at VPI, and I do think the Falcons would be amuch moer complete team with Schuab at QB.

... as for Vick's comments, that's what happens when you put someone on a pedestal...

...couldn't happen to a nicer etam, though

RockyMountainSaint · 10-22-2006, 12:55 AM

Man, I hope they cannot afford the accelerated cap hit they will take by cutting him and consequently have to let Schaub go.
No-one else in their right mind would take on that contract in a trade.
I hope the Falclowns are stuck with their "running back who takes snaps" for years to come.
Careful what you wish for!

10-21-2006, 07:05 PM	#21
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by BJSim ... to be fair to Vick, if Mora Jr doesn't let him throw, he's never going to improve as a passer. ... to be fair to Mora Jr, if you've got the number one rushing offense in the league, why wouldn't you run it first AND second down? Vick needs to understand he's supposed to be a leader, not a problem, for his team. Leaders don't bad-mouth the organization or the coach. You smile and nod and say 'we're working on some things to make ourselves better.' I've said it hundreds of times and I'll keep saying it... Vick is the best RB playing at QB in the league. ... because everyone is expecting you to run it on 1st and second, putting 8-9 in the box, therefore you have man on man coverage on your WRs and can torch them with play action? The Falcons are getting beat because no one respects their passing game. They stick 8-9 in the box to stop Dunn and Vick from running, and Vick doesn't have the passing skills to make defense pay, other than the occasional bomb. Even in obvious passing downs, neither the Saints defense or the Giants defense went to nickel or dime packages, because the odds are way against the Falcons torching you with the passing game. I'm not trying to defend Vick, though. I have never cared much about him as a player, even when he was being hyped while at VPI, and I do think the Falcons would be amuch moer complete team with Schuab at QB. ... as for Vick's comments, that's what happens when you put someone on a pedestal... ...couldn't happen to a nicer etam, though
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10-22-2006, 12:55 AM	#22
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Man, I hope they cannot afford the accelerated cap hit they will take by cutting him and consequently have to let Schaub go. No-one else in their right mind would take on that contract in a trade. I hope the Falclowns are stuck with their "running back who takes snaps" for years to come. Careful what you wish for!