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Len was just on our local sports show and said the following:

Not to much we didn't already know, but its mid-July and I'm starvin for info. Night practices and the indoor facility may help more than you think. I lived in Tampa and yes it is hot, but the humidity in Louisiana is second to none. Tampa has a lot dryer heat and was often breezy.

I forget the movie this quotes from but it fits... "Damn, this is like Africa hot!"


[Edited on 9/7/2003 by tweeky]

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I\'m not too overly concerned, it\'s still a while until the first regualar season game.


What I am curious about is how all the Brooks bashers on here feel about not having Brooks this year if something serious were wrong.

I think it kind of puts into perspective just how valuable Aaron Brooks really is to the Saints.

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bc, i would not think twice about letting bouman have a yr to see if he has it.....brooks dazzled the hell out of me when he came in but he has not proven he can take us to the promised land yet........i don\'t care if he\'s 3 for 40 with 10 interceptions as long as that last completion seals the victory..... that\'s when he has my respect and my backing... as i said before, you can throw the statistics out the window, they don\'t mean crap...........i\'ve lived through too many pretty defeats......i\'ll take the ugliest victory you can hand me, cause a win is a win.........and i don\'t wanna see him do it for half a season, i wanna see him do it time and time again.....i don\'t care if every offensive player screws up, the quarterback should take the blame....he is the general on the field.....the leader to lead........give me 11 hokies and i\'ll show you a game you\'ve never seen before because it would be played with all heart and determination and they or he would be the first to admit it was their fault when they screwed up.....let him wipe that sillly sh#t eating smile off his face and show me heart and determination.........you have to realize his weapons are an extention of himself, he needs to utilize this to the fullest extent. i am not sold by any means yet.......and if the coaches are, or say they are, someone is blowing smoke up someone\'s as#.......we are paying him top dollar, let\'s have some top play...........smitty

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And if Bouman flops.............then what?


It is well known how everyone on here feels about Brooks. We won\'t cover it again. I just hope to see Aaron completely healthy.

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then he had his chance as brooks did and we move on.......smitty

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The thing about it is, I just feel like 2 1/2 years is not enough time given to Brooks to warrant putting in Bouman.

Team that are successful at building a championship teams are patient with a quarterback and don\'t pull them in and out like Ditka, which proved to be detrimental to a team.

Smitty,

If Brooks does not produce this year, then I say he\'s probably not the guy. I\'m not saying he has to single handily take use to the Superbowl, but he must improve in the needed areas.

This year we are a legit superbowl contender and Brooks gives us the best chance, in my mind.

Bouman may very well be the man like Tom Brady was and if Brooks struggles too much this year or is hurt, I say put him in.

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i actually thought when they brought in collins we had a hellava chance for going places.......in some games he was flawless...........he dazzled me as well but when it came down to it, he did not have what it takes........the bucs would have never won the s.b. had it not been for their defense and a lot of luck......and i mean a lot of luck..........injury wise, they fared very well also, again, a lot of luck..........bucker and dead wood can rave all they want because they did win the superbowl, but the saints were by far the better team...........smitty

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Collins did take the Panthers to the NFC championship game and the Giants to the Superbowl, I think is a very talented player. He had a lot of off the field problems when he was with the Saints. Also, Ditka is a QB career killer.

I agree totally about the Bucs. If the Buc fans are so sure that they will repeat this year, they should go bet some of their hard earned money and put their money where there mouth is. I\'m sure Vegas would give them at least 2 to 1 odds.

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you missed the point, he choked, he failed, he missed his chance........after watching him for many years, he does not have what it takes to get anyone there.......look at past superbowl q.b.\'s......with great defensives to aid, they pulled themselves off the ground and did what it takes...........they did not give up........archie manning was one who could have taken us all the way with 1/2 a supporting cast had he had one.......this was a man who got the crap beat out of him and pulled himself up to let someone beat the crap out of him again....he did not give up...........the terminator if you will......i want to see this in a. b. or whoever who won\'t give up. elway, another, montana, bradshaw, aikman, etc..........brady was in the right place at the right time, he does have heart and proved it, my hat off to him,,,,,,i\'ve always agreed with mora, woulda, shoulda, coulda,.......it does not mean crap in the win column.....give me heart and determination and you can count the days when we\'ll be there...........smitty

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Look, Kerry Collins took the Giants to the Supebowl. Was is all his fault that they didn\'t win it? Kerry Collins pulled his career out of the gutter to take the Giants to the Superbowl.

I guess you think Jim Kelly wasn\'t any good either. he failed just like Collins.



I think I understand what your trying to say, which is, Brooks it not a fighter or a competitor. That\'s a personal opinion based off what you have heard in the media, because his team mates and coaches say just the opposite.

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i base my opinions on what i see, not what i hear.....30 yrs ago i went with my heart, now i go with my gut.....yes, collins did take em to the superbowl, but he did not win it......i believe he had the supporting case to do it, but he did\'nt......if anyone deserved a s.b. ring it was elway,,,,how many times did you see him get knocked down and get up to get the job done? marino deserved one also, but i don\'t believe he ever had the supporting cast he needed, they were close at times, but this is not horseshoes.....kelly was a fighter too and i did like him.........not too many people can remember the loser in the past superbowls.........ask minnesota fans.............as far as brooks goes, i do like him.....he has what it takes but he needs to apply it on a daily routine.....i don\'t wanna hear what he\'s capable of, i wanna see it......over and over and over.....there\'s a lot of q.b.\'s i liked that never went to the s.b. much less won one...if the saints stick with brooks and he never steps up to the next level, they will continue to show you the missed blocks or the missed passes or why the interception happened because someone was\'nt where they were supposed to be and it won\'t mean crap to the average fan......the great ones find a way, the good ones find excuses or have coaches explain why they did not win......there is no doubt in my mind that brooks has what it takes. as i said before, he dazzles me......the question is can he apply it and make it stick. he is so young and so talented it is scary...........i wanna see the, i won\'t quit in his eyes, the, we can come back and win this one, the, it\'s not over by a long shot attitude......maybe he does need more time and maybe he\'ll continue to dazzle a few games and lose the rest...all i\'m saying is show me heart and determination and i\'m yours......smitty

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Smitty,

I understand what your saying and I can live with those statements... ;)