Saints Sign Seven to Practice Squad

JOESAM2002 · 09-02-2007, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Mitchell and Phillips. i think we could have done better. followed by Duckworth

OIC! Maybe so, but Mitchell did ok on special teams I thought. Phillips, I must admit, I was disappointed in. Never really paid to much attention to Duckworth. Lot's of you probably know more about him than I do.

As far as Pittman goes, if he ever quits playing touch football(he goes down whenever he's touched) he might, but I doubt it. Jones is to much of a project for right now and as i said in another thread, I think we have enough projects right now. Especially if we want to make the big game. We need experience and that we have.

Oh, and one other thing. As far as picking up someone else after the cuts from other teams, sure we might have picked up a fair to good linebacker for a backup but then you have to consider the money angle too. Someone like Hartwell one of the other "big" names would cost us to much maybe. Hell we cut one that I thought we'd keep in Jones. Like someone else said though, looked like he never caught on to the scheme.I sure did like him though. He was a great clubhouse teammate.

hagan714 · 09-02-2007, 07:07 PM

http://blackandgold.com/forums/new-o...round-nfl.html

Check out the waivers. That list has more than 3 players of better caliber than the three I pointed out. We must be sitting on our wavier position for something.
The others I like. Ries just makes it. he seems to be a ball player.

FireVenturi · 09-02-2007, 07:40 PM

I hope pittman gets a lot playin time when we play them,,,, BRING DA HOUSE!!! Actually, just one extra blitzer. LOL

QBREES9 · 09-02-2007, 09:25 PM

I wish we sign David Jones, that was a bummer. I wonder what they see in Anwar ???

JOESAM2002 · 09-02-2007, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

http://blackandgold.com/forums/new-o...round-nfl.html

Check out the waivers. That list has more than 3 players of better caliber than the three I pointed out. We must be sitting on our wavier position for something.
The others I like. Ries just makes it. he seems to be a ball player.

I understand what you're saying, i'm just wondering if it might be money. I'm not sure where we stand cap wise. Plus, having been to sick to go to training camp this year I missed the inside scoop on what was going on there. I'm with you also on Ries, he looked like a player to me too. Seems, the coaching staff really likes him.

JOESAM2002 · 09-02-2007, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

I wish we sign David Jones, that was a bummer. I wonder what they see in Anwar ???

To me, Jones was to much of a project player to keep and as i've said in many other threads, we've got enough projects. I'd rather have Young as my project. He seems to have more upside and more to work with. As for Anwar, i'm a bit surprised by them keeping him another year but that might be the reason they did keep him. Because he has a year in the system already. I know that in camp last year they were high on him. He has showed some promise. I was however diasppointed in his play this preseason.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-03-2007, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

Here is a link to the Collective Bargining Agreement as it pertains to Practice Squads.

http://www.nflpa.org/cba/cba_pdf/Art...ice_Squads.pdf

It is in PDF form and I could not copy it.

I'll do the honors:

Section 1. Practice Squads:

(a) The League may elect in any League Year in accordance with this Article to establish practice squads
not to exceed eight players per Club. The League's election in any one season shall not determine or affect
its election in any subsequent season.

(b) [International player. Cut for brevity.]

Section 2. Signing With Other Clubs:

(a) Any player under contract to a Club as a practice squad player shall be completely free to negotiate
and sign a Player Contract with any Club at any time during the League Year, to serve as a player on any
Club's Active or Inactive List, and any Club is completely free to negotiate and sign such a Player Contract
with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation
between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period, except that such player shall not be
permitted to sign a Player Contract with another Club to serve as a practice squad player while under contract
as a practice squad player.

(b) Notwithstanding Subsection (a) above, a practice squad player may not sign an NFL Player Contract
with his Club's next opponent later than 4:00 p.m., New York time, on the sixth day preceding the game
(except in bye weeks, when the prohibition commences on the tenth day preceding the game).

Section 3. Salary:

Minimum salary for a practice squad player shall be $4,700 per week for the 2006-07
League Years, $5,200 per week for the 2008-10 League Years and the 2011 League Year if it is an Uncapped
Year, and $5,700 per week for the 2011 League Year if it is a Capped Year and the 2012 League Year,
including postseason weeks in which his Club is in the playoffs.

Section 4. Eligibility:

(a) The practice squad shall consist of the following players, provided that they have not served more
than two previous seasons on a Practice Squad: (i) players who do not have an Accrued Season of NFL
experience; and (ii) free agent players who were on the Active List for fewer than nine regular season games
during their only Accrued Season(s). An otherwise eligible player may be a practice squad player for a third
season only if the Club by which he is employed that season has at least 53 players on its Active/Inactive List
during the entire period of his employment.

(b) A player shall be deemed to have served on a Practice Squad in a season if he has passed the club's
physical and been a member of the club's Practice Squad for at least three regular season or postseason games during his first two Practice Squad seasons, and for at least one regular season or postseason game during his
third Practice Squad season. (A bye week counts as a game provided that the player is not terminated until after
the regular season or postseason weekend in question.)

Section 5. Active List:

If a player on the Practice Squad of one club (Club A) signs an NFL Player Contract
with another club (Club B), (1) the player shall receive three weeks salary of his NFL Player Contract at the 53-player Active/Inactive List minimum even if he is terminated by Club B prior to earning that amount, and (2)
Club B is required to count the player on its 53-player Active/Inactive List for three games (a bye week counts
as a game) even if he is terminated or assigned via waivers to another club or is signed as a free agent to another club's 53-player roster or another club's Practice Squad prior to that time. If the player is terminated from Club B's 53-player roster and signed to Club B's Practice Squad, he shall continue to count on the club's 53-player Active/Inactive List but shall not count against the eight-player Practice Squad limit until the three-game requirement has been fulfilled. If a player is terminated prior to the completion of the three-game period and is signed to Club B's Practice Squad or is signed or assigned to another club's 53-player roster or Practice Squad, any salary (as that term is defined in Article XXIV, Section 1(c)) that he receives from any NFL club applicable to the three-game period shall be an offset against the three weeks salary that he is entitled to receive from Club B.

Cassady37 · 09-03-2007, 08:12 AM

So what ever happened to Matt Baker? Did another team sign him? I really liked what I saw in that kid for no more time than he was on the team.

maximkat · 09-03-2007, 09:49 AM

I still don't understand why we kept 4 tight ends

i honestly think it has to do with what payton was talking about regarding keeping the 53 best players on the roster. it just so happens 4 of them are TE's.

ScottF · 09-03-2007, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I'll do the honors:

Section 1. Practice Squads:

(a) The League may elect in any League Year in accordance with this Article to establish practice squads
not to exceed eight players per Club. The League's election in any one season shall not determine or affect
its election in any subsequent season.

(b) [International player. Cut for brevity.]

Section 2. Signing With Other Clubs:

(a) Any player under contract to a Club as a practice squad player shall be completely free to negotiate
and sign a Player Contract with any Club at any time during the League Year, to serve as a player on any
Club's Active or Inactive List, and any Club is completely free to negotiate and sign such a Player Contract
with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation
between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period, except that such player shall not be
permitted to sign a Player Contract with another Club to serve as a practice squad player while under contract
as a practice squad player.

(b) Notwithstanding Subsection (a) above, a practice squad player may not sign an NFL Player Contract
with his Club's next opponent later than 4:00 p.m., New York time, on the sixth day preceding the game
(except in bye weeks, when the prohibition commences on the tenth day preceding the game).

Section 3. Salary:

Minimum salary for a practice squad player shall be $4,700 per week for the 2006-07
League Years, $5,200 per week for the 2008-10 League Years and the 2011 League Year if it is an Uncapped
Year, and $5,700 per week for the 2011 League Year if it is a Capped Year and the 2012 League Year,
including postseason weeks in which his Club is in the playoffs.

Section 4. Eligibility:

(a) The practice squad shall consist of the following players, provided that they have not served more
than two previous seasons on a Practice Squad: (i) players who do not have an Accrued Season of NFL
experience; and (ii) free agent players who were on the Active List for fewer than nine regular season games
during their only Accrued Season(s). An otherwise eligible player may be a practice squad player for a third
season only if the Club by which he is employed that season has at least 53 players on its Active/Inactive List
during the entire period of his employment.

(b) A player shall be deemed to have served on a Practice Squad in a season if he has passed the club's
physical and been a member of the club's Practice Squad for at least three regular season or postseason games during his first two Practice Squad seasons, and for at least one regular season or postseason game during his
third Practice Squad season. (A bye week counts as a game provided that the player is not terminated until after
the regular season or postseason weekend in question.)

Section 5. Active List:

If a player on the Practice Squad of one club (Club A) signs an NFL Player Contract
with another club (Club B), (1) the player shall receive three weeks salary of his NFL Player Contract at the 53-player Active/Inactive List minimum even if he is terminated by Club B prior to earning that amount, and (2)
Club B is required to count the player on its 53-player Active/Inactive List for three games (a bye week counts
as a game) even if he is terminated or assigned via waivers to another club or is signed as a free agent to another club's 53-player roster or another club's Practice Squad prior to that time. If the player is terminated from Club B's 53-player roster and signed to Club B's Practice Squad, he shall continue to count on the club's 53-player Active/Inactive List but shall not count against the eight-player Practice Squad limit until the three-game requirement has been fulfilled. If a player is terminated prior to the completion of the three-game period and is signed to Club B's Practice Squad or is signed or assigned to another club's 53-player roster or Practice Squad, any salary (as that term is defined in Article XXIV, Section 1(c)) that he receives from any NFL club applicable to the three-game period shall be an offset against the three weeks salary that he is entitled to receive from Club B.

Thanks fellow Georgian-

So, these guys can sign with any team as long as they get signed to the 53 man roster, not the PS.

They also make about $235, 000 per year.

09-02-2007, 06:45 PM	#11
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Saints Sign Seven to Practice Squad Originally Posted by hagan714 Mitchell and Phillips. i think we could have done better. followed by Duckworth OIC! Maybe so, but Mitchell did ok on special teams I thought. Phillips, I must admit, I was disappointed in. Never really paid to much attention to Duckworth. Lot's of you probably know more about him than I do. As far as Pittman goes, if he ever quits playing touch football(he goes down whenever he's touched) he might, but I doubt it. Jones is to much of a project for right now and as i said in another thread, I think we have enough projects right now. Especially if we want to make the big game. We need experience and that we have. Oh, and one other thing. As far as picking up someone else after the cuts from other teams, sure we might have picked up a fair to good linebacker for a backup but then you have to consider the money angle too. Someone like Hartwell one of the other "big" names would cost us to much maybe. Hell we cut one that I thought we'd keep in Jones. Like someone else said though, looked like he never caught on to the scheme.I sure did like him though. He was a great clubhouse teammate.
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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints Sign Seven to Practice Squad http://blackandgold.com/forums/new-o...round-nfl.html Check out the waivers. That list has more than 3 players of better caliber than the three I pointed out. We must be sitting on our wavier position for something. The others I like. Ries just makes it. he seems to be a ball player.

09-02-2007, 07:40 PM	#13
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Re: Saints Sign Seven to Practice Squad I hope pittman gets a lot playin time when we play them,,,, BRING DA HOUSE!!! Actually, just one extra blitzer. LOL

09-02-2007, 09:25 PM	#14
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,982	Re: Saints Sign Seven to Practice Squad I wish we sign David Jones, that was a bummer. I wonder what they see in Anwar ???

09-02-2007, 10:20 PM	#15
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Saints Sign Seven to Practice Squad Originally Posted by hagan714 http://blackandgold.com/forums/new-o...round-nfl.html Check out the waivers. That list has more than 3 players of better caliber than the three I pointed out. We must be sitting on our wavier position for something. The others I like. Ries just makes it. he seems to be a ball player. I understand what you're saying, i'm just wondering if it might be money. I'm not sure where we stand cap wise. Plus, having been to sick to go to training camp this year I missed the inside scoop on what was going on there. I'm with you also on Ries, he looked like a player to me too. Seems, the coaching staff really likes him.

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09-02-2007, 10:24 PM	#16
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Saints Sign Seven to Practice Squad Originally Posted by QBREES9 I wish we sign David Jones, that was a bummer. I wonder what they see in Anwar ??? To me, Jones was to much of a project player to keep and as i've said in many other threads, we've got enough projects. I'd rather have Young as my project. He seems to have more upside and more to work with. As for Anwar, i'm a bit surprised by them keeping him another year but that might be the reason they did keep him. Because he has a year in the system already. I know that in camp last year they were high on him. He has showed some promise. I was however diasppointed in his play this preseason.
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09-03-2007, 07:47 AM	#17
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Re: Saints Sign Seven to Practice Squad Originally Posted by biloxi-indian Here is a link to the Collective Bargining Agreement as it pertains to Practice Squads. http://www.nflpa.org/cba/cba_pdf/Art...ice_Squads.pdf It is in PDF form and I could not copy it. I'll do the honors: Section 1. Practice Squads: (a) The League may elect in any League Year in accordance with this Article to establish practice squads not to exceed eight players per Club. The League's election in any one season shall not determine or affect its election in any subsequent season. (b) [International player. Cut for brevity.] Section 2. Signing With Other Clubs: (a) Any player under contract to a Club as a practice squad player shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club at any time during the League Year, to serve as a player on any Club's Active or Inactive List, and any Club is completely free to negotiate and sign such a Player Contract with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period, except that such player shall not be permitted to sign a Player Contract with another Club to serve as a practice squad player while under contract as a practice squad player. (b) Notwithstanding Subsection (a) above, a practice squad player may not sign an NFL Player Contract with his Club's next opponent later than 4:00 p.m., New York time, on the sixth day preceding the game (except in bye weeks, when the prohibition commences on the tenth day preceding the game). Section 3. Salary: Minimum salary for a practice squad player shall be $4,700 per week for the 2006-07 League Years, $5,200 per week for the 2008-10 League Years and the 2011 League Year if it is an Uncapped Year, and $5,700 per week for the 2011 League Year if it is a Capped Year and the 2012 League Year, including postseason weeks in which his Club is in the playoffs. Section 4. Eligibility: (a) The practice squad shall consist of the following players, provided that they have not served more than two previous seasons on a Practice Squad: (i) players who do not have an Accrued Season of NFL experience; and (ii) free agent players who were on the Active List for fewer than nine regular season games during their only Accrued Season(s). An otherwise eligible player may be a practice squad player for a third season only if the Club by which he is employed that season has at least 53 players on its Active/Inactive List during the entire period of his employment. (b) A player shall be deemed to have served on a Practice Squad in a season if he has passed the club's physical and been a member of the club's Practice Squad for at least three regular season or postseason games during his first two Practice Squad seasons, and for at least one regular season or postseason game during his third Practice Squad season. (A bye week counts as a game provided that the player is not terminated until after the regular season or postseason weekend in question.) Section 5. Active List: If a player on the Practice Squad of one club (Club A) signs an NFL Player Contract with another club (Club B), (1) the player shall receive three weeks salary of his NFL Player Contract at the 53-player Active/Inactive List minimum even if he is terminated by Club B prior to earning that amount, and (2) Club B is required to count the player on its 53-player Active/Inactive List for three games (a bye week counts as a game) even if he is terminated or assigned via waivers to another club or is signed as a free agent to another club's 53-player roster or another club's Practice Squad prior to that time. If the player is terminated from Club B's 53-player roster and signed to Club B's Practice Squad, he shall continue to count on the club's 53-player Active/Inactive List but shall not count against the eight-player Practice Squad limit until the three-game requirement has been fulfilled. If a player is terminated prior to the completion of the three-game period and is signed to Club B's Practice Squad or is signed or assigned to another club's 53-player roster or Practice Squad, any salary (as that term is defined in Article XXIV, Section 1(c)) that he receives from any NFL club applicable to the three-game period shall be an offset against the three weeks salary that he is entitled to receive from Club B.
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09-03-2007, 08:12 AM	#18
Cassady37 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kilgore, Texas Posts: 337	Re: Saints Sign Seven to Practice Squad So what ever happened to Matt Baker? Did another team sign him? I really liked what I saw in that kid for no more time than he was on the team.

09-03-2007, 09:49 AM	#19
maximkat ChocolateMilk Connoisseur Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Live Free or Die Posts: 362	Re: Saints Sign Seven to Practice Squad I still don't understand why we kept 4 tight ends i honestly think it has to do with what payton was talking about regarding keeping the 53 best players on the roster. it just so happens 4 of them are TE's.

09-03-2007, 11:13 AM	#20
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints Sign Seven to Practice Squad Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I'll do the honors: Section 1. Practice Squads: (a) The League may elect in any League Year in accordance with this Article to establish practice squads not to exceed eight players per Club. The League's election in any one season shall not determine or affect its election in any subsequent season. (b) [International player. Cut for brevity.] Section 2. Signing With Other Clubs: (a) Any player under contract to a Club as a practice squad player shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club at any time during the League Year, to serve as a player on any Club's Active or Inactive List, and any Club is completely free to negotiate and sign such a Player Contract with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period, except that such player shall not be permitted to sign a Player Contract with another Club to serve as a practice squad player while under contract as a practice squad player. (b) Notwithstanding Subsection (a) above, a practice squad player may not sign an NFL Player Contract with his Club's next opponent later than 4:00 p.m., New York time, on the sixth day preceding the game (except in bye weeks, when the prohibition commences on the tenth day preceding the game). Section 3. Salary: Minimum salary for a practice squad player shall be $4,700 per week for the 2006-07 League Years, $5,200 per week for the 2008-10 League Years and the 2011 League Year if it is an Uncapped Year, and $5,700 per week for the 2011 League Year if it is a Capped Year and the 2012 League Year, including postseason weeks in which his Club is in the playoffs. Section 4. Eligibility: (a) The practice squad shall consist of the following players, provided that they have not served more than two previous seasons on a Practice Squad: (i) players who do not have an Accrued Season of NFL experience; and (ii) free agent players who were on the Active List for fewer than nine regular season games during their only Accrued Season(s). An otherwise eligible player may be a practice squad player for a third season only if the Club by which he is employed that season has at least 53 players on its Active/Inactive List during the entire period of his employment. (b) A player shall be deemed to have served on a Practice Squad in a season if he has passed the club's physical and been a member of the club's Practice Squad for at least three regular season or postseason games during his first two Practice Squad seasons, and for at least one regular season or postseason game during his third Practice Squad season. (A bye week counts as a game provided that the player is not terminated until after the regular season or postseason weekend in question.) Section 5. Active List: If a player on the Practice Squad of one club (Club A) signs an NFL Player Contract with another club (Club B), (1) the player shall receive three weeks salary of his NFL Player Contract at the 53-player Active/Inactive List minimum even if he is terminated by Club B prior to earning that amount, and (2) Club B is required to count the player on its 53-player Active/Inactive List for three games (a bye week counts as a game) even if he is terminated or assigned via waivers to another club or is signed as a free agent to another club's 53-player roster or another club's Practice Squad prior to that time. If the player is terminated from Club B's 53-player roster and signed to Club B's Practice Squad, he shall continue to count on the club's 53-player Active/Inactive List but shall not count against the eight-player Practice Squad limit until the three-game requirement has been fulfilled. If a player is terminated prior to the completion of the three-game period and is signed to Club B's Practice Squad or is signed or assigned to another club's 53-player roster or Practice Squad, any salary (as that term is defined in Article XXIV, Section 1(c)) that he receives from any NFL club applicable to the three-game period shall be an offset against the three weeks salary that he is entitled to receive from Club B. Thanks fellow Georgian- So, these guys can sign with any team as long as they get signed to the 53 man roster, not the PS. They also make about $235, 000 per year.