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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Nnamdi is a solid CB worth mentioning in the top 10 in the NFL. So is Hall. Hall has the flair for the dramatics though. Hall is by no means what I would call a shut down CB. We never ...

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Old 03-18-2008, 06:03 AM   #21
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Re: Hall, Asomugha and the Saints = ?

Nnamdi is a solid CB worth mentioning in the top 10 in the NFL. So is Hall. Hall has the flair for the dramatics though. Hall is by no means what I would call a shut down CB. We never shied away from throwing to his side of the field.
The big difference between the two is this, Hall was known in college and Nmamdi was not. Hall had alot more hype around him and still does. He uses the media to keep his name alive in the press. he has the mouth and well simple put it puts him into the pro bowl more times than not. Fans vote because of name recognition not so much on how well a player is playing. We all sit and laugh about the pro bowl selections each year and now we are going to use it as a guide to rate these two? Please do not go there.
I am more worried about the picks involved. If the falcons get 2 picks in the second ahead of us it will alter our choices greatly. They need DT and now they would add CB to the list.
Atlanta picks in round 2
Tracy Porter
Dre Moore

The saints are now on the clock.

Get the picture.

To counter this possibility the best thing the saints could do is hope Nnamdi does not sign and we pick him up as a FA. That would remove the overall need at CB from the draft in the early rounds. As for DT well we would end up with ????

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Old 03-18-2008, 01:58 PM   #22
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Steve Wyche of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that the much-anticipated Falcons-Raiders trade for cornerback DeAngelo Hall is essentially done.

The teams had already agreed that Atlanta would receive Oakland’s second- and sixth-round picks in the NFL draft, but the holdup had been whether the Raiders and Hall could reach an agreement on a long-term contract extension. Hall tells Wyche that the deal will get done.

Thanks to the trade with the Raiders and a previous trade with the Houston Texans for quarterback Matt Schaub, the Falcons will have four of the first 48 picks in this year’s draft — their own first- and second-round picks and the Texans’ and Raiders’ second-round picks.

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Old 03-19-2008, 08:02 AM   #23
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Fabian Washington?

Davis believes in man-to-man cornerback play. Putting Hall at cornerback with Asomugha gives the Raiders their best man-to-man cornerback tandem since Charles Woodson and Eric Allen. In many ways, Davis is flashing back to the Mike Haynes-Lester Hayes days in making this trade. It probably means former first-round choice Fabian Washington will be traded.

John Clayton was speculating that on an ESPN article this morning but I dont know much of Fabian. I wouldnt think hed be that high of trade value and I believe that Oakland traded away all their picks but the first rounder. Does anyone know if he'd be worth looking into or an upgrade period?
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:15 AM   #24
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His physical talents are worth drooling for. He's a bit raw, very young, but has plenty of upside. He's worth throwing a late round draft pick at.
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:17 AM   #25
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Fabian Washington
5-11, 185
NFL Draft: 2005 / Round: 1 / Pick: 23

He recorded the fastest 40 yard dash at the 2005 NFL Combine with a time of 4.29 seconds.[1]

In his first season Fabian Washington played all 16 games and recorded 40 tackles. In his second season with the Raiders, Washington played 14 games, had 43 tackles, 4 interceptions and helped Oakland to 3rd overall defense and 1st in pass defense. While having Randy Moss as a teammate for two years, Fabian Washington picked on him in First Team offense versus First team defense scrimmages. He recorded 11 picks while covering Randy Moss in practice on September 17th, 2006.

Very few players can have an immediate impact as a true freshman, but that’s exactly what Washington did for the Huskers. He moved into the starting lineup three games into his freshman season, and did not give the job up. He set Nebraska freshman records for pass break ups with 13 and INT’s with 4. He was named to many freshmen All American lists for his play that season. As a sophomore, he had a career high 55 tackles to go with 4 interceptions. During his final season with the Huskers as a junior, he added 3 more interceptions to go with 41 tackles. In his three years, he had 38 passes broken up.

Washington is a playmaker. He has a nose for the ball and makes a lot of plays. In three years, he totaled 10 interceptions to go with 38 pass break ups. He has awesome speed, is a great athlete, and can keep up with any receiver down the field. Despite being a true junior, he has started over 30 games in the Big 12, and should be able to make an impact immediately in the NFL, to go with a lot of untapped potential.

Even with his experience on the field, Washington does need some work. His body could use a few extra pounds, and that will come with simple maturation over the next couple years.

Fabian Washington has big time upside at the next level. He has great cover skills and is a playmaker with awesome speed. With a little time, he may be one of the better cover corners in the league. He’ll probably start out right away as a nickel because the kid can play now, but he’s going to need a little time to be a full time starter. After his combine showing, Washington should hear his name called at the end of the first. If he lasts into the second, he won’t be around long.
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Fabian Washington: Career Stats

BIO: Three-year starter awarded varying degrees of All-Conference honors since his freshman campaign. Finished with 41/3/15 as a junior. Sophomore totals included 55/10/4.

POSITIVES: Non-aggressive cover corner best backed off the line of scrimmage. Smooth backpedaling in reverse, loses nothing transitioning to run with opponents and fast in any direction of the field. Patient, quickly diagnoses plays and stays with the action. Fluid in all aspects and, at the same time, explosive. Displays a quick break on the pass, has a burst of closing speed, and can adjust or contort to make the interception. Fundamentally sound and shows excellent hands for the pick.

NEGATIVES: Not the first volunteer in run support and would rather knock down than wrap up the ballcarrier. Bites on receivers' moves and gets beat.

ANALYSIS: A fast corner who flashes on the scene, Washington's skills and playing style are best suited for a zone system or in man-off coverage. Needs to physically mature and add strength, yet could eventually develop into a starting cornerback or productive nickel player at the next level.

PROJECTION: Late First Round
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Pass I do not think he is the guy we need out on an island. If need be save the cash and go after Asomugha or another in 2009.

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Old 03-19-2008, 09:49 AM   #26
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The Raiders already made Gibril Wilson the league's third-highest-paid safety when they signed him to a six-year pact worth $39 million, $16 million guaranteed. Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha was designated the Raiders' franchise player, guaranteeing him a one-year salary of at least $9.465 million. Safety Michael Huff, the team's first-round pick in 2006, received a contract that year with $15 million guaranteed; it reportedly could be worth up to $43 million with incentives.

The Raiders' payroll reportedly is $137 million, $21 million above the salary cap. The Raiders also have the fourth pick in next month's draft and figure to a pay a large sum to that player.

The Raiders are believed to be shopping cornerback Fabian Washington, a 2005 first-round pick who lost his starting job last season. The team also could cut backup players with big salaries, such as running back LaMont Jordan and safety Stuart Schweigert, and designate them post-June 1 cuts, lessening the hit on the 2008 cap. Cutting a player before June 1 would count for this year's cap.

The Raiders also could renegotiate current players' contracts to help with the salary cap.

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Old 03-23-2008, 09:56 PM   #27
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Hall couldn't keep his composure against Steve Smith, who was having a bad year along with Carolina, because he was getting smoked in man to man.

DeAngelo Hall is overrated. PERIOD.

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Old 03-23-2008, 10:29 PM   #28
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stats are stats...and thats it
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I agree DeAngelo Fall is way overated just ask T.O.
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Old 03-24-2008, 09:46 AM   #30
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Originally Posted by lsutigerfan View Post
I agree DeAngelo Fall is way overated just ask T.O.
Or ask Ocho Cinco...hey blew D Hall up like an air-doll.
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