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CheramieIII 03-23-2008 10:12 AM

Re: How Would You Fix the D?
 
I think the needs are at CB, DT and Safety in that order.

CB we need another shut down corner like Big Mac and I still think this will be the first pick in the draft. Cromartie, Talib, Jenkins, McElvin, all bring their own pro's and con's to the table and I think anyone of them would work.

Safety Bullocks can be burned, Bellamy's too old, and Special KK should be better this year. Harper can't do it all on his own. We need another big hitter like Harper.

DT I think this will be our 2nd round pick and will either be Dre Moore or Laws. Both will be put into the rotation immediately and could start depending on how fast they developed. With Hollis and Young back this wouldn't be a sore spot anymore.

cajunasian61 03-23-2008 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsmissile (Post 159064)
This goes back to my original arguement. Regardless of who are starting corners are, whether it be Young, David, Gay, McKenzie or McElvin/Rogers Cromartie, we don't find a replacement for pathetic Bullocks, we will STILL be inept in the secondary. None of the afore mentioned cbs outside of MM, are really quality cb's in this league. Gay will give you some playmaking ability as a nickle, but you know, Gay HAS played some FS. What about replacing Bullocks with Gay? Might not be a bad move. We would have to acquire a Sheppard or maybe F.Washington, but it might not be a bad move all way round.

Missile, I agree with you totally on replacing Bullocks. I feel that as bad as JD was last year, Bullocks was just as responsible for the bad play in the secondary if not more so. He has never been good. Never will be good. But as far as replacing him, if we do not pick up anyone I really feel that if we just replace Bullocks with KK it will be a significant upgrade. In the games that Kaesviharn started he looked so much better than Bullocks. That doesn't mean that KK is the answer, but I am positive that he is better (I mean Simoneau looked good to me at first after two years of Courtney Watson, sorry to bring that name up again). With Harper now being two years removed from ACL surgery and having another year of experience and KK replacing Bullocks, I feel like our safety play won't be such a liability next year, and might even be a pleasant surprise. Also maybe Phillips can fall to us in round 2, or even better we could trade down and pick him later in the 1st round.

cajunasian61 03-23-2008 10:30 AM

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Usualy it takes players about 2 years to fully recover from an ACL injury, so we can wait to make our final judgement on Harper until this year. I think he will be fine. Probably not great but good enough.

triman 03-23-2008 10:43 AM

Re: How Would You Fix the D?
 
Everybody wants to change scheme ,coaches etc... The problem with the Saints D is very simple we lack talent at several positions . CB is a very high profile one everybody seems to think that if we get the second coming of DEON that the Saints will solve there defensive problems , IMHO I beg to differ The Saints need a DT capable of creating a push up the middle and requiring offenses to double team him . This would free up LBs and DEs to rush the passer . Our LBs are very mediorce ,I think the FO has realized this and is attemting to upgrade this position with the additions of Vilma and Morgan . Today's NFL uses alot of spread offenses 3 and 4 wide sets IMHO it is difficult for DBs to efffect the game without a substantial pass rush. I hope that we use our draft to improve our front 7 and add some talent to our DB roster

papz 03-23-2008 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 159063)
I'm hoping Usama Young or some bright young rookie from the draft gets the nod over Jason David. I'd like to see Gay man the nickel as well. He's a good nickel corner, just not a true #1 or #2.

I'd rather that also gandhi. One can only hope Young would be ready to man the 2 spot but I honestly feel he won't make a big contribution until next year.

cajunasian61 03-23-2008 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 159083)
I'd rather that also gandhi. One can only hope Young would be ready to man the 2 spot but I honestly feel he won't make a big contribution until next year.

I agree with you Papz. I don't know what people saw last year that makes them think that Usama is ready to be a starter. I don't see him being anything more than a dime back. He was terrible at tackling, and I can't remember ever thinking during a game "That was great coverage by Usama." He's a work in progress and will take a year or two more, if he even pans out at all. To be perfectly honest, with McKenzie probably on the PUP, Jason Craft is the best CB on our roster that played for us last year (and I hated Craft before last year). Go back and look at the film. He played very well last year. I'm skeptical because of his age and his lack of ever impressing me before, but he played good last year. Usama on the other hand was irrelevant.

rjakapeanut 03-23-2008 02:33 PM

Re: How Would You Fix the D?
 
what you guys don't get is MM is going to start the season :).


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