Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey...

Champ Kind · 04-01-2008, 01:07 PM

This may be an odd suggestion, but I kind of thought of it while reading something yesterday about Quinn and the Raiders. It (not sure where I read it) said that they gave Quinn a low ball figure to take him #1 and he turned it down.
I wonder if we could get into negotiations with Dorsey and tell him we'll trade up to #1, but his salary wouldn't be #1 level. He would still make money and would be able to stay in his home-state. He would also be able to be part of a winning team with a chance for a championship this year.

Just a thought.

Champ Kind · 04-01-2008, 01:14 PM

Oh yea,
All this is somewhat based on the idea that Miami wants to get rid of their pick. So they would be able to get a lower pick, but not so low to where they couldn't get a upper level player at a significantly lower price.

Euphoria · 04-01-2008, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by BIGEASY504

If we could get Lito Shepard from the Eagles, than we could get a CB in a later round and we’ll have the leeway to go after Dorsey or Rivers or Ellis.

I don't think we need a 'another' CB. Rivers seems to be the choice at 10 for us if he is still there. Dorsey would sure help our Secondary look a bit better by creating pressure. I think its worth going after Dorsey.

saintsfan1976 · 04-01-2008, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Champ Kind

This may be an odd suggestion, but I kind of thought of it while reading something yesterday about Quinn and the Raiders. It (not sure where I read it) said that they gave Quinn a low ball figure to take him #1 and he turned it down.
I wonder if we could get into negotiations with Dorsey and tell him we'll trade up to #1, but his salary wouldn't be #1 level. He would still make money and would be able to stay in his home-state. He would also be able to be part of a winning team with a chance for a championship this year.

Just a thought.

Ahhhh yes. Isn't it nice to dream.. lol. Look, WHOEVER gets picked at #1 will have enough $$$ to live-visit-vacation wherever they want.

As for a winning team... the Saints haven't exactly proved that (YET). What they have done is signed a bunch of second-tier/injured/"could-be-great-if" players... JUST LIKE LAST YEAR.

Don't get me wrong.. I loooove the Saints on paper. But that's what I say every year.

But I digress... Let's offer GD less money than a #1 pick should get and tell him he gets to anchor a pass rush that was non-existent last year and as a bonus he gets to live in New Orleans... IN NEW ORLEANS. (Pretty sure that's not a selling point)

saintsfan1976 · 04-01-2008, 02:31 PM

Now on the flip side, I would definitely pursue GD all the way up to #6 overall. Okay, maybe even #5. This guy could be the double-team dream the Saints have been missing.

Champ Kind · 04-01-2008, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Ahhhh yes. Isn't it nice to dream.. lol. Look, WHOEVER gets picked at #1 will have enough $$$ to live-visit-vacation wherever they want.

As for a winning team... the Saints haven't exactly proved that (YET). What they have done is signed a bunch of second-tier/injured/"could-be-great-if" players... JUST LIKE LAST YEAR.

Don't get me wrong.. I loooove the Saints on paper. But that's what I say every year.

But I digress... Let's offer GD less money than a #1 pick should get and tell him he gets to anchor a pass rush that was non-existent last year and as a bonus he gets to live in New Orleans... IN NEW ORLEANS. (Pretty sure that's not a selling point)

Ouch! I meant, compared to the Falcons, we are a winning team, and yes, I think living in New Orleans compared to Atlanta would be better. Also, when I said less than #1 pick, I meant not Jamarcus Russell money. I do think that a chance to win a championship is something. He did stay an extra year LSU because he believed they could win the SHIP.

SaintPauly · 04-01-2008, 04:41 PM

i honestly believe Atlanta would take him out of spite. : ) j/k

FireVenturi · 04-01-2008, 04:44 PM

I will save everybody the trouble, we wont be able to move up to #2 and atl will take him at 3. Sorry, I know it sux but thats how i see it.

stockman311 · 04-01-2008, 05:10 PM

I'd much rather trade up with Baltimore at #8 to get ahead of Cincy at #9 and snag Ellis. I think he will be every bit as good as Dorsey with a much less expensive price tag up front. I think everyone has Ellis locked with Cincy at #9. We know Baltimore wants a QB and would rather pick Ryan at 10 than at 8. How much do we have to give up to Baltimore to move up 2 spots?

pakowitz · 04-01-2008, 05:27 PM

based on the value chart, its only 100 point difference from 8 to 10.. that would about a 4th round pick.. which we dont have this year since we used it in the vilma trade

04-01-2008, 01:07 PM	#11
Champ Kind Nachooooooooooo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Shreveport Posts: 71	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... This may be an odd suggestion, but I kind of thought of it while reading something yesterday about Quinn and the Raiders. It (not sure where I read it) said that they gave Quinn a low ball figure to take him #1 and he turned it down. I wonder if we could get into negotiations with Dorsey and tell him we'll trade up to #1, but his salary wouldn't be #1 level. He would still make money and would be able to stay in his home-state. He would also be able to be part of a winning team with a chance for a championship this year. Just a thought.

04-01-2008, 01:14 PM	#12
Champ Kind Nachooooooooooo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Shreveport Posts: 71	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... Oh yea, All this is somewhat based on the idea that Miami wants to get rid of their pick. So they would be able to get a lower pick, but not so low to where they couldn't get a upper level player at a significantly lower price.

04-01-2008, 01:45 PM	#13
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... Originally Posted by BIGEASY504 If we could get Lito Shepard from the Eagles, than we could get a CB in a later round and we’ll have the leeway to go after Dorsey or Rivers or Ellis. I don't think we need a 'another' CB. Rivers seems to be the choice at 10 for us if he is still there. Dorsey would sure help our Secondary look a bit better by creating pressure. I think its worth going after Dorsey.

04-01-2008, 02:28 PM	#14
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,538 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... Originally Posted by Champ Kind This may be an odd suggestion, but I kind of thought of it while reading something yesterday about Quinn and the Raiders. It (not sure where I read it) said that they gave Quinn a low ball figure to take him #1 and he turned it down. I wonder if we could get into negotiations with Dorsey and tell him we'll trade up to #1, but his salary wouldn't be #1 level. He would still make money and would be able to stay in his home-state. He would also be able to be part of a winning team with a chance for a championship this year. Just a thought. Ahhhh yes. Isn't it nice to dream.. lol. Look, WHOEVER gets picked at #1 will have enough $$$ to live-visit-vacation wherever they want. As for a winning team... the Saints haven't exactly proved that (YET). What they have done is signed a bunch of second-tier/injured/"could-be-great-if" players... JUST LIKE LAST YEAR. Don't get me wrong.. I loooove the Saints on paper. But that's what I say every year. But I digress... Let's offer GD less money than a #1 pick should get and tell him he gets to anchor a pass rush that was non-existent last year and as a bonus he gets to live in New Orleans... IN NEW ORLEANS. (Pretty sure that's not a selling point)

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04-01-2008, 02:57 PM	#16
Champ Kind Nachooooooooooo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Shreveport Posts: 71	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Ahhhh yes. Isn't it nice to dream.. lol. Look, WHOEVER gets picked at #1 will have enough $$$ to live-visit-vacation wherever they want. As for a winning team... the Saints haven't exactly proved that (YET). What they have done is signed a bunch of second-tier/injured/"could-be-great-if" players... JUST LIKE LAST YEAR. Don't get me wrong.. I loooove the Saints on paper. But that's what I say every year. But I digress... Let's offer GD less money than a #1 pick should get and tell him he gets to anchor a pass rush that was non-existent last year and as a bonus he gets to live in New Orleans... IN NEW ORLEANS. (Pretty sure that's not a selling point) Ouch! I meant, compared to the Falcons, we are a winning team, and yes, I think living in New Orleans compared to Atlanta would be better. Also, when I said less than #1 pick, I meant not Jamarcus Russell money. I do think that a chance to win a championship is something. He did stay an extra year LSU because he believed they could win the SHIP.

04-01-2008, 04:41 PM	#17
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... i honestly believe Atlanta would take him out of spite. : ) j/k

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FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... I will save everybody the trouble, we wont be able to move up to #2 and atl will take him at 3. Sorry, I know it sux but thats how i see it.

04-01-2008, 05:10 PM	#19
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... I'd much rather trade up with Baltimore at #8 to get ahead of Cincy at #9 and snag Ellis. I think he will be every bit as good as Dorsey with a much less expensive price tag up front. I think everyone has Ellis locked with Cincy at #9. We know Baltimore wants a QB and would rather pick Ryan at 10 than at 8. How much do we have to give up to Baltimore to move up 2 spots?

04-01-2008, 05:27 PM	#20
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: Dorsey, Dorsey, Dorsey... based on the value chart, its only 100 point difference from 8 to 10.. that would about a 4th round pick.. which we dont have this year since we used it in the vilma trade