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BillyCarpenter1 08-27-2003 11:15 PM

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Many have no faith in Haz and Venturi. I'm thinking they will get it done this year. I ain't scared. So post your comments about the coaches right here this season and we will see who is wrong.

Batwood 08-28-2003 07:59 AM

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I gotta give it up to Venturi for having the right focus and at least trying from what i read of his quotes in an ESPN article.

Quote:

From ESPN article:

For a season when the Saints could have as many as seven new starters on the defensive side, the always-manic Venturi wants his unit to be quicker, to locate the ball with more efficiency, to assimilate the technique changes he had implemented, to tackle sounder, to force turnovers, to create scoring opportunities.
To, well …


.....\"Well, to be kind of more like Tampa Bay, you know?\" conceded Venturi, as he finished off the practice script for the following morning\'s workout, and hustled down the hall to the copying machine. \"You know what I mean.\"

WhoDat 08-28-2003 08:02 AM

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Venturi is the best football coach I have ever seen. Haz is second.

saintfan 08-28-2003 10:00 AM

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Congradulations Whodat. You\'ve resorted to sarcasm. I think that tells us all a little someting.

JOESAM2002 08-28-2003 11:46 AM

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These are Gil Brandt\'s rankings for defenses for 2003:

rankings
2002 defensive ranking in parentheses
1.Tampa Bay (1)
2.Baltimore (22)
3.Carolina (2)
4.Miami (3)
5.Philadelphia (4)
6.New England (23)
7.Tennessee (10)
8.New York Giants (9)
9.New York Jets (24)
10.Oakland (11)
11.Atlanta (19)
12.Pittsburgh (7)
13.Indianapolis (8)
14.Denver (6)
15.Buffalo (15)
16.Jacksonville (20)
17.St. Louis (13)
18.Dallas (18)
19.Green Bay (12)
20.Cincinnati (17)
21.Washington (5)
22.San Francisco (14)
23.Seattle (28)
24.Cleveland (21)
25.Kansas City (32)
26.New Orleans (27)
27.Chicago (25)
28.Houston (16)
29.San Diego (30)
30.Detroit (25)
31.Arizona (29)
32.Minnesota (26)

I hope we show better than 26, this won\'t get it at all. Middle of the pack I think will get us to the playoffs if, the offense shines like we all think it can and if opposing teams don\'t kick away from Lewis every time they kick off or punt.


[Edited on 28/8/2003 by JOESAM2002]

FWtex 08-28-2003 12:55 PM

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see \"Weaknesses???? \" post.

daviddrake2 08-28-2003 01:01 PM

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I beleive that the sign of a good coach is being able to get the most out of your players, no matter how good or bad, young or old, experienced or inexperienced they are. A good coach must motivate, lead and command the respect of his players. It is his responsibility to build and foster a healthy team spirit within his players. He must be able to overcome adversity (player injuries, etc) and still direct his team to have the best possible showing. He should not make excuses for himeself or his players, but should instead take whatever actions are necessary to correct problems and/or get rid of problem players. He should shoulder the ultimate blame for losses and poor player performances and he should receive the ultimate praise for wins and good performances from his players.

I believe Haz and Venturri have both proven they capable and even above average in many areas, but I still believe they lack in other important areas, particularly in regards to motivation, team spirit and being able to overcome adversity.

Maybe I will be proved wrong this season. I sincerely hope I will, but only time will tell.

Go SAINTS!!!!!

David in Houston

*** I hate to sound like a pessimist in many of my posts, but damn it, I want people to step up and be accountable for their actions. They make millions of dollars for playing football, a job that most of us here would LOVE to have. So PLAY FOOTBALL like it is the most important thing in your life, if only for 60 minutes a week!

WhoDat 08-28-2003 05:22 PM

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No Saintfan - I\'m not talking about Haslett, Brooks, or the Defense anymore. I\'ve made my points a THOUSAND times. So have a thousand other members of this board. I\'m waiting for the season now. Then in a few weeks I\'ll be back to the Benson Boogie in the corner while you and Billy and all the others make excuses or change your tunes.

And one other thing, yet again, I do hope I\'m wrong. Not only would that mean the Saints are a good team, but also that you and Billy and a whole slew of others on this board (that contrary to popular belief I atually do like) wouldn\'t have to be institutionalized after your fragile egos were crushed one too many times. ;) HA!

saintfan 08-28-2003 06:01 PM

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No fragile ego here mah freend. If Brooks plays poorly I\'ll be back in here to admit it...and I WILL admit it as I\'ve done in the past...(see the Cleveland game comments from last year). Now, If I could just get YOU to admit when one of YOUR statements is proved incorrect...(see the Jake Delhomme will Start for the Panthers quote of yours).

You and \"08\" have been led to the water...whether or not you drink is up to you! LOL

WhoDat 08-28-2003 06:11 PM

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Season hasn\'t started yet. If Jake doesn\'t start in week 1 then I will review the evidence and might admit that I may have been mistaken. LOL

Or like a supreem court judge my opinion may just have changed. LOL - anyone ever read 1984? George Orwell? Oceania has always been at war with east-asia - Whodat has always predicted Rodney Peete would be the starter... HA! ;)

SaintScott25 09-01-2003 11:14 PM

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I\'m trying to have faith in Haslett. He has increased the talent level of the team big time! He inherited a team from Ditka that was really \"tough\", but not talented at all. The D hasn\'t been inpressive yet, but all of that can\'t go on Venturi. The tackling of the defense has been worse than what you\'d see at a high school game. I know that there\'s alot of new guys that need to get on the same page and they\'ll probably improve dramatically. One things for sure, this defense is definitely as fast as advertised. I\'m looking forward to a great season and a trip to the playoffs!! GEAUX SAINTS!!!

SaintNik 09-04-2003 12:36 AM

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Let\'s all take a trip on Venturi Highway! Sit back and enjoy the ride. Saintsalive!

frankeefrank 09-09-2003 01:28 AM

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Out coached again...
Seahawks 24 Saints 10

saintz08 09-11-2003 11:40 PM

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Clemmons speaks

Clemons is downplaying Sunday\'s trip to New Orleans, where the Texans face a tough matchup with his former team, but he no doubt wants to show the Saints they made a mistake when they changed his role in the defense in 2002 and cut ties with him after the season.

While playing for former Saints defensive coordinator Ron Zook, Clemons had the best year of his career in 2001. But when Zook left to replace Steve Spurrier as the head coach at the University of Florida, Rick Venturi was elevated to defensive coordinator. The Saints\' defensive philosophy changed, and Clemens\' production diminished.

\"Venturi is the type of guy who likes to play a lot of Cover 2,\" Clemons said. \"He\'s not as aggressive as far as calling a lot of blitzes. Zook pins his ears back, and he just goes. Venturi likes to cover first, and in other situations he likes to blitz. I controlled everything with Zook. Venturi called most of the things that were not complementary to my ability. You know how it is. Things can change.\"

Things changed so much that a season after finishing with the fourth-highest sack total in the NFL, Clemons found himself looking for another job. He signed a four-year contract with the Texans in April and hasn\'t looked back.

\"I know the nature of this business,\" Clemons said. \"I could have had a great year last year and still been in this situation. This whole thing is a business. You never know how important you are to an organization until you\'re gone. You have to move on. I\'m with a new family. I\'ve embraced this like I\'ve been here all of my life. This is a great organization that puts its best foot forward trying to win. We\'ve got some guys who really want to win.\"

TheOriginalSwampdog 09-25-2003 11:30 AM

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3-13 Haz is fired and we FINALLY get a coach who is more worried about execution and wins rather than writing inane little notes in his notebook all game. No, Haz may be a good head coach one day, but it won\'t be here.

saintz08 09-26-2003 07:18 PM

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ESPN Writer

Indianapolis (-2) over NEW ORLEANS
One of my NFL gambling traditions: Inexplicably liking a team too much before the season, then begrudgingly sticking by them until they\'ve emptied my bank account. Well, I\'m not allowing the Saints to bleed me to death. I\'m abandoning ship. This team is a nightmare -- crummy coaching, shoddy decisions, tons of mistakes ... they bring everything to the table. Just a dumb team. I want a divorce.


(What does Jim Haslett have to do to get fired, by the way? Show up late for a game? Take off his pants in the fourth quarter? Call five consecutive fake punt plays? Have three of his his players get arrested in one week? Seriously, I want to know.)

FWtex 09-29-2003 01:21 AM

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http://www.blackandgold.net/site/mod...=2422#pid10951

says it all.

BillyCarpenter1 09-30-2003 11:15 PM

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Who topped this thread?? It\'s painful looking at it every day !! None the less, I\'m going to say at 1-3 that Haz and company will turn it around. Hey, I\'m in it neck deep, so I really don\'t have much to lose.... :mad:

BillyCarpenter1 10-02-2003 12:33 AM

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I feel like I need a padded room after the Colts game. Who would have thought that the Saints would play this poorly this year? Not me !!

Yeah it still stings and nothing is going to take it away unitl the Saints win a game

saintz08 10-11-2003 10:20 PM

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Billy

Here is a little happy place you can go and spread your joy joy thoughts and serve up some of your special crow ettouffe .

http://www.firehaslett.com/

BillyCarpenter1 10-13-2003 05:19 PM

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08 -- I might eat some crow this year. But, we\'re 2-4 and maybe 3-4 next week. Haslett and Venturi might prove me right yet!! I also think that the Panthers offense will finially catch up to them. Keep an ear out for the fans screaming for Jake\'s head as soon as they lose a couple. Don\'t worry 08 -- Since you like home grown QB\'s, I\'ll serve you some home style crow -- Cajun Style!!

BillyCarpenter1 10-20-2003 12:42 PM

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Haslett has this team headed in the right direction it seems. Anyone starting to believe yet?

saintz08 01-13-2004 01:44 AM

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Quote:

BillyCarpenter1

posted on 13/10/2003 at 16:19
08 -- I might eat some crow this year. But, we\'re 2-4 and maybe 3-4 next week. Haslett and Venturi might prove me right yet!! I also think that the Panthers offense will finially catch up to them. Keep an ear out for the fans screaming for Jake\'s head as soon as they lose a couple. Don\'t worry 08 -- Since you like home grown QB\'s, I\'ll serve you some home style crow -- Cajun Style!!


Quote:

The right thing for Benson to do is to thank Jim Haslett for all the hard work and inform him that he owes it to the fans to do everything in his power and that he must hire a new coaching staff.
Billy it looks like you get a double helping of crow this year .

Got 2 recipes for you to enjoy all that crow with .

Grilled Crow Breast

Breast out crows the same way you would a dove. Soak the breast
in water with a tablespoon of salt for 30 minutes to draw out some
of the blood. Marinate the breast for 20 minutes in Dale\'s Steak
Sauce or other soy based sauce. Red wine also works well but
needs to soak overnight.
Drain off the marinade and place the breast on a hot grill with wet
hickory chips andcook for 10 minutes on each side. Avoid over
cooking as this tends to dry out the meat and toughen it. When
cooked properly the meat cuts and looks like grilled venison.

Crow Stroganoff

Remove breast meat from the bone. Slice into strips about 1/2\"
thick. Place in a pressure cooker with several cloves of garlic, 1/2
cup diced onion, 3 cups of water, 1 teaspoon freshly ground pepper,
1 teaspoon dried lovage leaves (can substitute 1/4 cup celery). Cook
under pressure (10 pounds) for 30 minutes. Cool. Remove and
discard garlic. Add broth from 4 oz. can of mushrooms. Adjust
liquid to measure 3 cups. In a shaker mix 1/4 cup of flour with 1
cup cool broth. Heat remaining broth and add flour mixture;
simmer until thickened. Add meat and mushrooms and bring to a
simmer again. Just before serving, remove from heat and add 1/2
cup sour cream. Serve over noodles or rice.
Recipe courtesy of Sara Jean Peters and Vince LaConte.

Bon appetite..... ;)


Danno 01-13-2004 08:00 AM

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Here\'s a thought...
Lets try to dig up as many old posts with predictions that didn\'t transpire and make a pissing contest out of each and every poster here.
No wait, that\'s already being done...AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
Enough already children GROW F\'ING UP!


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