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biloxi-indian 08-31-2010 11:34 AM

Glass half empty?
 
I tend to look at things as the glass being half full most of the time. However, at present, with Sharper and Ingram I am sensing the glass is half empty.

Payton said there are three options for both;

1. put them on the 53 man roster
2. PUP
3. Waive

I do not see #1 happening as the Saints would be on the "hook" for their entire salary for the year if they go on the 53 for week one. Plus they take up two roster spots from "HEALTHY" players.

This leaves #2 and #3.

#2 PUP, shelves them for six weeks into the schedule...with no guarantee. Pay their salaries for six weeks with no assurances they can get on the field.

#3 Waivers. Payton is not very subtle. This may very well be the only option at this point. They could resign both at any point after the first game and not be on the "hook" for their annual salary. Plus, who is going to claim two gimpy legged players?

Anybody else with a half glass viewpoint?

Euphoria 08-31-2010 12:41 PM

I don't have an opinion on Ingram but I have a funny feeling Sharper is a Go for game time against the Vikes.

DRsaints 08-31-2010 12:42 PM

With really nothing to go on for Ingram, I wouldn't be surprised if they outright cut him, but I think Sharper will probably be put on the PUP list. Maybe Ingram will be put on the PUP list as well, but we'll have to see.

SapperSaint 08-31-2010 02:35 PM

I agree with Euph. I think Sharper is ready to go. All smoke and mirrors.

xan 08-31-2010 02:45 PM

Has anyone seen sharper on the practice field?

st thomas 08-31-2010 02:49 PM

i read somewhere that they were both just up to speed to start evaluation.

73Saint 08-31-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 240728)
i read somewhere that they were both just up to speed to start evaluation.


I think I saw what you saw, Payton said they were both finally making some noticeable progress, and the evals would commence beginning now.

biloxi-indian 08-31-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 240726)
Has anyone seen sharper on the practice field?

I have seen pictures of Sharper on the sidelines with a huge knee brace and/or riding a bicycle. Does that count as being on the practice field?

MatthewT 08-31-2010 06:44 PM

I can give Sharper the benefit of doubt and say he doesn't need practice at this stage in his career, however it's not looking too good for him. I still do not believe he makes the opening day roster and feel he is going to go on the pup list. I seriously hope my prediction is wrong and that he is a go for the Vikings game. As for Ingram, I just don't know much about him to form an opinion. The Saints aren't exactly loaded at LB, so that should help his cause.

504state 08-31-2010 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian (Post 240668)
I tend to look at things as the glass being half full most of the time. However, at present, with Sharper and Ingram I am sensing the glass is half empty.

Payton said there are three options for both;

1. put them on the 53 man roster
2. PUP
3. Waive

I do not see #1 happening as the Saints would be on the "hook" for their entire salary for the year if they go on the 53 for week one. Plus they take up two roster spots from "HEALTHY" players.

This leaves #2 and #3.

#2 PUP, shelves them for six weeks into the schedule...with no guarantee. Pay their salaries for six weeks with no assurances they can get on the field.

#3 Waivers. Payton is not very subtle. This may very well be the only option at this point. They could resign both at any point after the first game and not be on the "hook" for their annual salary. Plus, who is going to claim two gimpy legged players?

Anybody else with a half glass viewpoint?

Who cares? If they aren't healthy then they cant play, and why would we want them anyway? Go with the better options of healthy players. They will probably just roll the dice on someone else not signing them and cut them in hopes of picking them up later in the year. Im about over Sharper anyway.

504state 08-31-2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian (Post 240668)
I tend to look at things as the glass being half full most of the time. However, at present, with Sharper and Ingram I am sensing the glass is half empty.

Payton said there are three options for both;

1. put them on the 53 man roster
2. PUP
3. Waive

I do not see #1 happening as the Saints would be on the "hook" for their entire salary for the year if they go on the 53 for week one. Plus they take up two roster spots from "HEALTHY" players.

This leaves #2 and #3.

#2 PUP, shelves them for six weeks into the schedule...with no guarantee. Pay their salaries for six weeks with no assurances they can get on the field.

#3 Waivers. Payton is not very subtle. This may very well be the only option at this point. They could resign both at any point after the first game and not be on the "hook" for their annual salary. Plus, who is going to claim two gimpy legged players?

Anybody else with a half glass viewpoint?

Who cares? If they aren't healthy then they cant play, and why would we want them anyway? Go with the better options of healthy players. They will probably just roll the dice on someone else not signing them and cut them in hopes of picking them up later in the year. Im about over Sharper anyway.

diamond12 08-31-2010 07:35 PM

Sharper will suit up but if we get way behind because the back field keeps blowing coverages and allow 2 to 3 touchdowns from the middle then number 42 will have to come in,,no way will he sit there and watch it keep going..Coach will probably let him in.

homerj07 08-31-2010 09:09 PM

"Im about over Sharper anyway."

Hey 504State - WHY??

I don't think he will have a season like last year - BUT - As a player he has a wealth of knowledge & leadership that we need.

strato 09-01-2010 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 504state (Post 240782)
Who cares? If they aren't healthy then they cant play, and why would we want them anyway? Go with the better options of healthy players. They will probably just roll the dice on someone else not signing them and cut them in hopes of picking them up later in the year. Im about over Sharper anyway.


Yep...im about over you to....i smell a failcon rat..FF you better tighten up...Bday party over...lol...

Saint_LB 09-01-2010 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 504state (Post 240783)
Im about over Sharper anyway.

Yeah...Sharp! What have you done for us lately? :)

biloxi-indian 09-01-2010 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 504state (Post 240783)
Who cares? Im about over Sharper anyway.

9 ints, and 3 td's cares!!!!!

strato 09-01-2010 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian (Post 240882)
9 ints, and 3 td's cares!!!!!


This guy is a troll...i do believe...

Rugby Saint II 09-01-2010 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strato (Post 240883)
This guy is a troll...i do believe...

I do believe you are right.

pumpkindriver 09-01-2010 10:50 AM

Sharper playing on opening nite would be great but as long as we have Tracy Porter and Jabari Greer out there, the rest of the defensive backfield will be just fine. After all GW says "I look a lot smarter with Tracy Porter and Jabari Greer on the field"

Srgt. Hulka 09-01-2010 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strato (Post 240883)
This guy is a troll...i do believe...

I'm beginning to agree...Possible troll!

Previous posts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 504state (Post 237580)
This guy is worthless. Fumble problems and a repaired knee. I would not get my hopes up on this guy. The skins got rid of him for a reason.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 504state (Post 234898)
We sure have some of the best looking fans. Were you in the retard section or something?

And this about Brees:

Quote:

Originally Posted by 504state (Post 234466)
I hate to say it but I think hes gonna get a career ending injury this year. We just are not that lucky.


73Saint 09-01-2010 01:11 PM

Hulka I think you are defly on to something.


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