I've seen ugly and that wasn't even close.

How many turnovers do the Saints have in the last two games?

They're 2-0

Try and act like it, fairweather fans.

Believe. Have faith. Two dat.

All you "Hey we're 2-0" people...Tampa is 2-0 too. There is a difference. Would Tampa be 2-0 versus the Vikings and the 49ers? Not very likely. Then again, that's not really the point.

It doesn't take a grown up (although I'm 41 and not 14) to see how we struggled against the run and in pass protection and in run blocking...in fact we got owned on both sides of the line. Regardless of someone's age, those that fail to see that aren't paying attention - but you can bet your 2-0 asses that coach noticed. That was an ugly win, and I'd be willing to bet the entire Saints team would agree. You have to win those too, which we did, because we're good, but there is no excuse for how we played, especially on defense.

Believing, having faith, and being optimistic have next to nothing to do with reality.

Of course we could very well go undefeated this year, but we better score 30+ points a game.

I think maybe you missed the point. Saying that someone could not be very old was meant to point-out that you must not have been around when the 9'ers were doing the exact same thing to us...and then going on to the playoffs because they won those games and we didn't.

It is so gratifying to me to see us come out ahead in these types of games...which you will always see, because rarely does a team become so dominant that they don't have some squeakers or clinkers...and not the other way around.

Again, if you'd witnessed those losses, then you couldn't think of these wins as anything but beautiful, IMO.

Totally agree and not just games against the 9ers either. Even though beating them in a sweaker does put neosporin on those old wounds!

We are the same team we were last year!

Clowns...

What are yall talking about. We had games we were about to lose and big plays gave us the win.

Did you see any of the games last year?

Ditto . . . There were more than a couple that we came from behind to win. In fact I was of the mindset that we had to get behind to motivates us . . . as another post says "Saints Find a Way to Win"

Saw every one of them numerous times, slo-mo and everything.

Not once was our O-line AND D-line manhandled like they were against the 49ers.

If you didn't notice that, you need to watch more football.

Yeah so far it looks to be the case. I have confidence that GW and Payton will get it fixed though.

The good news is that we didn't look good at all, but still got the win, and even on the road. Thats what championship teams do.

I love the win. I even enjoy how we won, as Steve Young stated, because historically we lose those games. That doesn't change the fact that we got the hell kicked out of us up and down the field all night long. My devotion to this team will never be measured on me calling it like I see it - in fact like most saw it. Being happy about the win while acknowledging that we got our asses handed to us and that we were extremely fortunate doesn't make me a band wagoner, a fair weather fan, or in any way indicate my age.

I expect we'll get better. I hope so for sure. If not I'll be right back here Sunday griping about piss-poor blocking and tackling all over again.

We just played bad football in challenging road conditions(wind played a big factor in the score imo) and we still came away with the win against a decent team with a solid defense.

Conclusion - We're a pretty damn good football team.

You can win big or you can win ugly... it's going to mean 0 difference as long as we get to the playoffs. Tampa, Baltimore, etc. played some ugly UGLY football then they won the Superbowl... so what? We can't expect to go out there and dominate every football game... this isn't peewee league football.

Next up... the Dirty Birds in the Dome. :bng: