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alleycat_126 01-13-2011 09:50 AM

Be Proactive, Don't let Peyton sign first!!!!
 
It's time!!!! 1 year left on his current deal. It's up to us to be proactive and sign Drew Brees long term. I think brees is 100 million dollar man reguardless. But, If Manning signs first 100 million = that puts pressure on N.O. brass to match Mannings contract.

dizzle88 01-13-2011 10:10 AM

He deserves a raise magic.
Drew had to literally put the team on his back seen as we had absolutely no running game.
The cleveland game he did not play well but the Coach Payton got outcoached that game when they ran a load of trick plays.
Every QB has a couple of bad games, but the way i see it. The guy has brought us 2 back to back Post Season appearances, a SB championship, he donates his time and money to the city. He's the Best QB the franchise has ever had.
The guy deserves a raise, and big time. We will get a running game and drew will be his same old self, he can't do it all on his own.

Rickh 01-13-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Magic (Post 280034)
Brees threw 22 int's this year. That was the main reason we didn't get homefield because of his questionable decision making at times. The Cleveland and Arizona losses were all on him. I'm not sure he deserves a raise.

"Drew Brees doesn't deserve a raise" is one of the craziest things I've heard on here in a long time.

Take a look at any QB when they lack a running game. Brees has had to deal with that all year. Also, how many dropped passes did we have this year? GO out there and bring in another QB and see what he does... not a thing.

Our WR corps is very good but not top 5 in the league. Our RB's are probably bottom 5 and the TE's maybe in the middle. Even with all that, we still score in bunches.

Like it or not Brees is the face of the Saints organization and the Saints will do whatever it takes to keep him here until he retires.

papz 01-13-2011 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Magic (Post 280034)
Brees threw 22 int's this year. That was the main reason we didn't get homefield because of his questionable decision making at times. The Cleveland and Arizona losses were all on him. I'm not sure he deserves a raise.

You've got to look at his whole body of work... not just one statistic from one season.

SapperSaint 01-13-2011 10:49 AM

Drew's INT's were not all his doing. alot of them were tips.

Make no mistake Drew has earned top QB money. Why does Manning deserve more money than Drew? IMHO...He doesn't.

Drew IS the New Orleans Saints and we would have never even sniffed at a SuperBowl without him.

Budsdrinker 01-13-2011 10:57 AM

Drew will be 32 on Saturday and in his book he said how he would have loved to play his entire career with 1 team. Well that can't happen but we can make sure it's only 2. I say a 7 year $100 million extension. He's earned it.

WhoDat!656 01-13-2011 02:25 PM

Magic, I'm not worried about the Cleveland loss; they beat the Saints the only way they could.
The Browns straight dominated the Patriots on both sides of the ball.

Srgt. Hulka 01-13-2011 03:25 PM

When Drew enter the Hall of Fame 10-12 years from now, I want it to be with the Black and Gold #9 jersey...Sign Him!!!

alleycat_126 01-13-2011 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Magic (Post 280034)
Brees threw 22 int's this year. That was the main reason we didn't get homefield because of his questionable decision making at times. The Cleveland and Arizona losses were all on him. I'm not sure he deserves a raise.

What were you watching, you don't hold out on a player of Drew Brees's character. Who's our other option. Nobody, The homefield was lost in the first ATL game when your kicker missed a bunny. And the battered Saints were trying to keep up the whole year long.

GeauxForMore 01-13-2011 11:37 PM

Give him the money. No other Saints QB accomplished more.

MatthewT 01-14-2011 01:09 AM

Brees will probably get around a 7 year extension in the neighborhood of about $160 million. No idea on how much of that would be guaranteed, but I would be willing to say at least a third. I know these dollars sounds outrageous, but considering the money the top QB's are getting these numbers sound about right.

niteadept 01-14-2011 05:16 AM

Quarterback Rating Leaders -
QualifiedRK
PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
1 Tom Brady, QB NE 492 324 65.9 3900 7.93 79 36 4 25 111.0 244
2 Philip Rivers, QB SD 541 357 66.0 4710 8.71 59 30 13 38 101.8 294
3 Aaron Rodgers, QB GB 475 312 65.7 3922 8.26 86 28 11 31 101.2 261
4 Michael Vick, QB PHI 372 233 62.6 3018 8.11 91 21 6 34 100.2 252
5 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 389 240 61.7 3200 8.23 56 17 5 32 97.0 267
6 Josh Freeman, QB TB 474 291 61.4 3451 7.28 64 25 6 28 95.9 216
7 Joe Flacco, QB BAL 489 306 62.6 3622 7.41 67 25 10 40 93.6 226
8 Matt Cassel, QB KC 450 262 58.2 3116 6.92 75 27 7 26 93.0 208
9 Matt Schaub, QB HOU 574 365 63.6 4370 7.61 60 24 12 32 92.0 273
10 Peyton Manning, QB IND 679 450 66.3 4700 6.92 73 33 17 16 91.9 294
RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
11 Matt Ryan, QB ATL 571 357 62.5 3705 6.49 46 28 9 23 91.0 232
12 Drew Brees, QB NO 658 448 68.1 4620 7.02 80 33 22 25 90.9 289

TD completions? Brees and Manning tied for second with Brady edging them out by 3.
Completion Percentage - Brees 68.1 - Rivers was second at 66.0
Interceptions? Yes, quite certain any one of the above QB's would throw more interceptions when forced into a "NO" running game for most of the season. :rolleyes: Other than the interceptions, you cannot complain about Drew Brees this season and be realistic. I'll take my chances with Brees any day of the week because I know at the end of the day, he has the Saints best interest at heart.:bng:

jeanpierre 01-14-2011 06:04 AM

Sure, let Brees geaux...

Teams without a ProBowl QB like Carolina, San Fran, Arizona, Miami, Cleveland, Oakland, ask them how that's working out for 'em...

xan 01-14-2011 09:07 AM

If both the team and Brees are in the LEAST bit smart, they would realize that the more they commit to Brees, the less likely it is that the team returns to the Super Bowl. Our squad is virtually depthless except at WR. No team can survive an 18 week season without a lot of quality players. The more Brees takes off the table, the more we'll have a season like the last, decent but not championship. Brees won't make the Hall unless he has 2 rings. He should know that and do whatever it takes to make a serious run.

I'm not against paying him a lot of money, I'm against crippling the team.
1 player on 53 should not get more than 8% of cap per year. You wonder why the Colts and the G-dudes are suffering??? hell, TB nearly made the playoffs with the 3rd lowest total salary, and the chiefs were in with the lowest.

Spend smart guys. Don't take it all off the table.

QBREES9 01-14-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Magic (Post 280034)
Brees threw 22 int's this year. That was the main reason we didn't get homefield because of his questionable decision making at times. The Cleveland and Arizona losses were all on him. I'm not sure he deserves a raise.

You FalCllown fan your still hanging around.

foreverfan 01-14-2011 07:22 PM

So what you are saying is you believe that signing Brees to a 100 Million Dollar contract some how hurts the Saints and the money could be used elsewhere to sign other players to better the team. This arguement really doesn't hold water since Brees is the team. Try to imagine the team without him.

If the job pays a 100 Million Dollars, I for one think he's earned it.

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xan 01-14-2011 07:47 PM

If the object is to win a Super bowl, all I need to say is Trent Dilfer. Screw the belief that you need to pay a qb $100 million. You get a lot of well paid talent you'll kick the crap out of one superstar and a bunch of looksquadders. Just look at the 2010 saints.

st thomas 01-14-2011 08:28 PM

no brainer guys base 7 year 70 mill guaranteed with incentives to 100 and he will meet damand for the extra 30

TheKillerBs 01-14-2011 10:44 PM

If you think Drew doesn't deserve the money, just imagine this team with Aaron Brooks at the helm...

Srgt. Hulka 01-15-2011 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TheKillerBs (Post 280343)
If you think Drew doesn't deserve the money, just imagine this team with Aaron Brooks at the helm...

Oh man, I just got a headache thinking about that.

UK_WhoDat 01-15-2011 01:49 PM

Drew CARRIED the Saints.

The more you consider it, the more obvious it becomes.
The more obvious it becomes, the more stunning it is that we have had the good fortune to have had Drew Brees at the Saints

Memnoch_TP 01-15-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKillerBs (Post 280343)
If you think Drew doesn't deserve the money, just imagine this team with Aaron Brooks at the helm...

And, negative rep for you for making me imagine AB at the helm of this Saints team.

Rickh 01-17-2011 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 280322)
If the object is to win a Super bowl, all I need to say is Trent Dilfer. Screw the belief that you need to pay a qb $100 million. You get a lot of well paid talent you'll kick the crap out of one superstar and a bunch of looksquadders. Just look at the 2010 saints.

Yeah, unless you see the Ravens Defense of 2000 laying around anywhere I don't think Dilfer at QB is better than Brees.

Hey look, this is something that the Patriots, Colts, and Chargers are doing and the GB will be doing. This is Brees' value to the team. You can pay him his salary and still contend.

Dilfer was an exception, and was only able to do what he did because he had one of the top three defenses in NFL history on his side.

Rugby Saint II 01-17-2011 03:05 PM

It really is a no brainer. Drew Brees is the face of the franchise and led us to the Superbowl last year and brought us back into the playoffs without a running game. He is a record setter with value that is off the charts.
However, I believe that he knows that there is more to life than money. He is a team first guy and will be reasonable......but his agent probably doesn't look at it the same way.
Drew is smart and knows he is in an ideal situation here in NO with a great head coach and a strong defense.

saintfan 01-17-2011 03:28 PM

AB with these weapons and a decent defense wouldn't be nearly as bad as people might think.

nutria 01-17-2011 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 280044)
Drew's INT's were not all his doing. alot of them were tips.

Make no mistake Drew has earned top QB money. Why does Manning deserve more money than Drew? IMHO...He doesn't.

Drew IS the New Orleans Saints and we would have never even sniffed at a SuperBowl without him.

Manning is better than Brees, so he gets more money.

iceshack149 01-18-2011 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 281054)
AB with these weapons and a decent defense wouldn't be nearly as bad as people might think.

I agree. I'd take AB over a few current QB's in the league.

breesfan27 01-18-2011 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Magic (Post 280034)
Brees threw 22 int's this year. That was the main reason we didn't get homefield because of his questionable decision making at times. The Cleveland and Arizona losses were all on him. I'm not sure he deserves a raise.

Did this guy just say Brees doesn't deserve a raise? Buddy, put down the crack pipe and step away from your computer, please!!

He deserves just as much of a raise as Brady and Manning. Sure, he had a "down" year, but that's no reason not to pay him. I would hate to see him go somewhere else, he's a proven leader and the team would be STUPID not to keep him.

Girvanaca 01-18-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Magic (Post 280034)
Brees threw 22 int's this year. That was the main reason we didn't get homefield because of his questionable decision making at times. The Cleveland and Arizona losses were all on him. I'm not sure he deserves a raise.

You're Nuts!

pherein 01-18-2011 11:54 AM

I think you give Drew all the money we have , and let him divide it up as he sees fit,lol

Drew Brees is the Saints, and the Saints are Drew Brees. If Brees walks out the door, so does any hope of us winning another SB. Besides hes just the best example of a QB in the NFL and he represents our character perfectly.
God made him for us :)

Drew contract should be 150 Mil a year for 7 years, errr I think thats all we got.

alleycat_126 01-18-2011 01:52 PM

Brees is not gonna take all the money, we have to sign, but he is gonna get a market fair deal that does not cripple the team. He's knows that he needs more pieces than just himself to get back to the SB and get himself into the hall.


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