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BOLTS4LIFE 08-01-2011 02:58 AM

Just giving you all some feedback on Sproles.
 
First off, 4 years for 14 mil... I think that's a great signing for you guys!

I saw all of his home games (so far). We ALL liked him from the very beginning in 2005. Unfortunately, he had that season ending injury in the preseason of 2006 that kept him beched for the entire season.
After that, he returned with a vengeance! He was a demon on Special Teams and came in handy as a running back and receiver. I have some favorite moments of Sproles. Two in particular are in the 2007 playoffs in Indianapolis when a short pass lead to a touchdown. The other is the game winning run in the playoffs against the Colts.

Though last season, he was terrible. I think we overpaid him. Too many fumbles for a guy that was making 6 million. To the point where he lost his starting position as kickoff/punt returner. I won't miss him at all this season.

Anyway... I hope he can regain what he had with you guys and even more. Here's to a great season!

Crusader 08-01-2011 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOLTS4LIFE (Post 314002)
Though last season, he was terrible. I think we overpaid him. Too many fumbles for a guy that was making 6 million. To the point where he lost his starting position as kickoff/punt returner. I won't miss him at all this season.

Uhhh thats not really what I wanted to hear...

pherein 08-01-2011 04:15 AM

Thanks Bolt,
His stats are better than reggies though. All RB have bad fumbling years glad to hear it was when he was on your team,lol

all in all though if you look at reggie stats and durability vs sproles , Spoles is a definite upgrade and fumbles less, and your OL has not been near as good as ours since 2006. I think sproles will perform even better than when he was a charger, because he has better protection from the OL , better play calling for misdirection , and more weapons, so he will not be seen as the weapon he was in charger country, and will have LB's trying to cover him.
Plus spoles is still young and has only 249 attempts to reggaes 524 attempt in the NFL, so he's hardly been used, my guess is they really didn't know how to use him, but we are brilliant at using scat backs in N.O. , he will fit nicely.

but thanks for the insight.


Spoles
Darren Sproles NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Bush
Reggie Bush NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

foreverfan 08-01-2011 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pherein (Post 314008)
Thanks Bolt,
His stats are better than reggies though. All RB have bad fumbling years glad to hear it was when he was on your team,lol

all in all though if you look at reggie stats and durability vs sproles , Spoles is a definite upgrade and fumbles less, and your OL has not been near as good as ours since 2006. I think sproles will perform even better than when he was a charger, because he has better protection from the OL , better play calling for misdirection , and more weapons, so he will not be seen as the weapon he was in charger country, and will have LB's trying to cover him.
Plus spoles is still young and has only 249 attempts to reggaes 524 attempt in the NFL, so he's hardly been used, my guess is they really didn't know how to use him, but we are brilliant at using scat backs in N.O. , he will fit nicely.

but thanks for the insight.


Spoles
Darren Sproles NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Bush
Reggie Bush NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

This is wishful thinking. :bng: If Sproles is Reggie Bush who tends to fumble a lot, I think Saints fans will turn on him soon enough. :o

saintsfan1976 08-01-2011 06:47 AM

So you're saying Sproles had a one down year (last year) and you're already glad he's gone?

The guy averages 5.3yd per carry and almost 9yds per reception and you "Won't miss him"???

Speaking of 'overpaying' - he sure kicked Ryan Mathews butt.

Crusader 08-01-2011 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 314013)
This is wishful thinking. :bng: If Sproles is Reggie Bush who tends to fumble a lot, I think Saints fans will turn on him soon enough. :o

Agreed. Its after all a what have you done for me lately business.

Euphoria 08-01-2011 07:09 AM

If you think Sproles had fumble problems then you would hate Reggie Bush.

saintsfan1976 08-01-2011 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 314027)
If you think Sproles had fumble problems then you would hate Reggie Bush.

3 fumbles last year... THREE. He's lost 6 in three years.

Euphoria 08-01-2011 08:09 AM

We'll be way better off with Sproles than Bush.

career fumbles
BUSH Sproles
19 13

And Sproles has one more year under his belt than Bush. The problem with Bush is that it is all mental! His mental lapses when carrying the ball is horrible. Watch tape and you see how he carries on PR especially. When crowd gets near him he has the ball away from his body when you are suppose to have it next to you. The way he dances allows for players to come from behind and knock the ball out with ease. If he is mentally out of the game we are done. We are so much better off with Sproles.

Maverick2299 08-01-2011 08:25 AM

Well he could be hitting the news next month, punt return against packs?
He will be a great special teams player...better then bush.

biloxi-indian 08-01-2011 08:31 AM

Does Sproles like running out of bounds as much as Bush? It always seemed Bush liked those really long white lines. :)

mikesaintfan 08-01-2011 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian (Post 314069)
Does Sproles like running out of bounds as much as Bush? It always seemed Bush liked those really long white lines. :)

white lines? lmao

neugey 08-01-2011 09:55 AM

Yes, last year was rough for Sproles. I had him on my fantasy team as a backup and his numbers were dismal. I'm hoping Sproles has a Jets/Tomlinson-like bounceback in him!

Speedy Ron 08-01-2011 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 314049)
We'll be way better off with Sproles than Bush.

career fumbles
BUSH Sproles
19 13

And Sproles has one more year under his belt than Bush. The problem with Bush is that it is all mental! His mental lapses when carrying the ball is horrible. Watch tape and you see how he carries on PR especially. When crowd gets near him he has the ball away from his body when you are suppose to have it next to you. The way he dances allows for players to come from behind and knock the ball out with ease. If he is mentally out of the game we are done. We are so much better off with Sproles.

plus bush only played in 10 games since we drafted him (exageration)

BOLTS4LIFE 08-01-2011 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 314021)
So you're saying Sproles had a one down year (last year) and you're already glad he's gone?

The guy averages 5.3yd per carry and almost 9yds per reception and you "Won't miss him"???

Speaking of 'overpaying' - he sure kicked Ryan Mathews butt.


I'm not glad that he's gone but I won't miss him either. In the last couple of weeks they used Antoine Cason for kickoff returns and he did better.

Now if they gave him a contract similar to the one you guys gave him, I might like that but he was not worth 6.5 million.

All in all, I think it was a good signing for you guys. Last season was a disappointment but this could be a healthy change for him. As for Mathews... if he stays healthy, I have faith in him.

BOLTS4LIFE 08-01-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 314096)
yeah .... they came to our boards and told us Drew would never amount to anything either.


Not me. Sure there was question regarding his shoulder injury at the time but I still didn't think his time was over.

I'm not saying Sproles is done either. I think he was a good pick up for you guys. Sproles gave us some great moments but he just wasn't worth as much as we paid him.

BOLTS4LIFE 08-01-2011 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian (Post 314069)
Does Sproles like running out of bounds as much as Bush? It always seemed Bush liked those really long white lines. :)


Hmmmmm. Never notice that, but you guys have watched him play more than I have. No, I can say that Sproles is good at staying in bounds on tight plays.

darstep 08-01-2011 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOLTS4LIFE (Post 314183)
... gave us some great moments but he just wasn't worth as much as we paid him.

a la Reggie Bush.

RockyMountainSaint 08-01-2011 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 314096)
yeah .... they came to our boards and told us Drew would never amount to anything either.

True, but Bolts4Life hasn't ever done that.

For a non-Saints fan he is the least offensive that I have seen.

:p

Rugby Saint II 08-01-2011 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darstep (Post 314186)
a la Reggie Bush.

That is exactly what I was thinking. Sometimes it's the value per dollar that you are looking at and that leads to disappointment. I wish him well.....although I don't think he will stay healthy long enough to do well.

I am looking for good things from Sproles.:bng:

Mardigras9 08-01-2011 02:51 PM

Sounds like it was time for a change for both us and the Bolts.

papz 08-01-2011 02:51 PM

He doesn't mean any harm. Let's face it, Sproles really wasn't worth 6 million a season. I'm very curious how many touches we're even going to give him here. If Ingram takes off and PT is fully healthy... mix in some Ivory, where does that leave Sproles?

That said, I'm confident that in the touches he will receive, he's going to make of it than Bush did with his.

B_Dub_Saint 08-01-2011 02:52 PM

Im excited about Sproles. Screen pass here we come!!

poydras 08-01-2011 02:52 PM

No matter. They didn't bring him here to carry the team. He might not even make it. We just needed someone to do some of the same things that Reggie did so we don't have to reprint the playbook.

BOLTS4LIFE 08-01-2011 03:50 PM

Good things I see about this signing...
a.) Ever since that season ending injury in 2006, he's been healthy.
b.) He's worked with Brees.
c.) He'll be running routes similar to the ones he did here.

Anybody know how much of that money is guaranteed?

Euphoria 08-01-2011 04:13 PM

LOL yes we'd finally hopefully be able to work in a screen pass for a change geez!!!

I don't think we had a good one in like ever.

Memnoch_TP 08-01-2011 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron (Post 314103)
plus bush only played in 10 games since we drafted him (exageration)

Yeah, it was 15 if you count the partial games he left injured on. :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 314199)
True, but Bolts4Life hasn't ever done that.

For a non-Saints fan he is the least offensive that I have seen.

:p

I can't say that, I once met a Kansas City Chiefs fan that I didn't want to punch in the face.

Beastmode 08-01-2011 04:42 PM

Sproles has no issues either, stand up guy. Bush on the otherhand, lawsuits, returning awards, fake celebrity girlfriend, dumb tweet/comments. He was always dealing with some issue that he created.

skymike 08-01-2011 06:55 PM

Thanks for the info, Bolts.

Last time someone came here from another team and gave us the skinny on a player we aquired, it was Bills fans telling us about Jabari Greer. (they loved him)

I think its a good sign.

boonedocksaint 08-01-2011 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pherein (Post 314008)
Thanks Bolt,
His stats are better than reggies though. All RB have bad fumbling years glad to hear it was when he was on your team,lol

all in all though if you look at reggie stats and durability vs sproles , Spoles is a definite upgrade and fumbles less, and your OL has not been near as good as ours since 2006. I think sproles will perform even better than when he was a charger, because he has better protection from the OL , better play calling for misdirection , and more weapons, so he will not be seen as the weapon he was in charger country, and will have LB's trying to cover him.
Plus spoles is still young and has only 249 attempts to reggaes 524 attempt in the NFL, so he's hardly been used, my guess is they really didn't know how to use him, but we are brilliant at using scat backs in N.O. , he will fit nicely.

but thanks for the insight.


Spoles
Darren Sproles NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Bush
Reggie Bush NFL & AFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com


really? which stats?

bush is number one in receptions and recieving yards among ALL running backs since he came into the league and second in recieving touchdowns.

boonedocksaint 08-01-2011 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 314260)
LOL yes we'd finally hopefully be able to work in a screen pass for a change geez!!!

I don't think we had a good one in like ever.

apparently you've never heard of pierre thomas before. he's not only had great success on screen passes, he's scored on NUMEROUS screen passes.

Marlboro Man 08-01-2011 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOLTS4LIFE (Post 314002)
First off, 4 years for 14 mil... I think that's a great signing for you guys!

I saw all of his home games (so far). We ALL liked him from the very beginning in 2005. Unfortunately, he had that season ending injury in the preseason of 2006 that kept him beched for the entire season.
After that, he returned with a vengeance! He was a demon on Special Teams and came in handy as a running back and receiver. I have some favorite moments of Sproles. Two in particular are in the 2007 playoffs in Indianapolis when a short pass lead to a touchdown. The other is the game winning run in the playoffs against the Colts.

Though last season, he was terrible. I think we overpaid him. Too many fumbles for a guy that was making 6 million. To the point where he lost his starting position as kickoff/punt returner. I won't miss him at all this season.

Anyway... I hope he can regain what he had with you guys and even more. Here's to a great season!

Now, if we could just get a few of those cheerleaders of yours....:-D

Michigan_SF 08-02-2011 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 314317)
Thanks for the info, Bolts.

Last time someone came here from another team and gave us the skinny on a player we aquired, it was Bills fans telling us about Jabari Greer. (they loved him)

I think its a good sign.

Oh I like that one better. I was thinking of Colts fans and another CB.

Choupique 08-02-2011 10:21 PM

Three whole fumbles and a fan turns on a player?

Really? Three?

I'd bet large sums of money you'd fumble every single time.

If our coaching staff likes him, so do I.

Geaux Sproles.

|Mitch| 08-02-2011 10:24 PM

Three fumbles in one year? Didn't Bush have a 3 fumble game or two?

Memnoch_TP 08-02-2011 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boonedocksaint (Post 314395)
really? which stats?

bush is number one in receptions and recieving yards among ALL running backs since he came into the league and second in recieving touchdowns.

EXACTLY! We are stacked on WR, we need a Running Back that can actually RUN the ball! This is the one good argument I have heard made in favor of Reggie over Sproles, but it STILL just proves why we will be better off with Sproles. He can RUN the ball.

|Mitch| 08-02-2011 11:30 PM

I'm not sure we'll rely on Sproles running the ball all too often, as long as Ingram, Ivory, & P.T. can stay healthy

st thomas 08-02-2011 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strato (Post 314210)
Sproles will finally play for a good team...and be with his cuz Roby...can you imagine how good he must feel to get away from Rivers and A.J....dam im happy for the man...lol

u took the floor from me there strat. i was going to say that that o-line did LT in and it about did the same for sproles but we grabbed him out of there. lol

st thomas 08-02-2011 11:54 PM

i excited to have sproles in NO but we also have; quite possibly the next F. Gore; but not the route he took.


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