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FootballCEO 09-06-2011 08:08 AM

Football Gameplan's Saints vs Packers Preview Video
 

Good morning B&G!! Welcome to a new season! Here's my preview for the Packers game!

Enjoy!

Em

FinSaint 09-06-2011 08:40 AM

Nice preview with lots of good and seemingly accurate assessments.

But, I don't completely agree with you giving the edge with DBs to the Packers - I would think the two teams are pretty even in that regard if you look at the starting safeties and first 3 CBs in the depth chart.


GB: Morgan Burnett (SS); Nick Collins (FS); Charles Woodson (CB); Tramon Williams (CB); and Sam Shields (CB).

NO: Roman Harper (SS); Malcolm Jenkins (FS); Jabari Greer (CB); Tracy Porter (CB); and Patrick Robinson (CB).


I think those are pretty close... especially with the further progress Jenkins has made.

FootballCEO 09-06-2011 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 326881)
Nice preview with lots of good and seemingly accurate assessments.

But, I don't completely agree with you giving the edge with DBs to the Packers - I would think the two teams are pretty even in that regard if you look at the starting safeties and first 3 CBs in the depth chart.


GB: Morgan Burnett (SS); Nick Collins (FS); Charles Woodson (CB); Tramon Williams (CB); and Sam Shields (CB).

NO: Roman Harper (SS); Malcolm Jenkins (FS); Jabari Greer (CB); Tracy Porter (CB); and Patrick Robinson (CB).


I think those are pretty close... especially with the further progress Jenkins has made.

Thanks FinSaint! Even looking at it written out like this, I'd still take the Packers secondary.. SS Burnett is a guy that can hit (like Harper) AND cover (unlike Harper), that alone gives them the advantage at Safety. Greer & Porter are VERY solid corners..problem is health. I need my corners to be out there for 16 games, which is why I sided with GB. Woodson's added versatility is another reason why I gave the Pack the edge.

Don't get me wrong, Jenkins is a stud, but everywhere else there's some questions...albeit slight ones

AsylumGuido 09-06-2011 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FootballCEO (Post 326884)
Thanks FinSaint! Even looking at it written out like this, I'd still take the Packers secondary.. SS Burnett is a guy that can hit (like Harper) AND cover (unlike Harper), that alone gives them the advantage at Safety. Greer & Porter are VERY solid corners..problem is health. I need my corners to be out there for 16 games, which is why I sided with GB. Woodson's added versatility is another reason why I gave the Pack the edge.

Don't get me wrong, Jenkins is a stud, but everywhere else there's some questions...albeit slight ones

While you may be correct concerning a 16 game season, we are talking about one game with all players coming in healthy.

Oh, and good job once again. I really enjoy these every week.

FinSaint 09-06-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FootballCEO (Post 326884)
Thanks FinSaint! Even looking at it written out like this, I'd still take the Packers secondary.. SS Burnett is a guy that can hit (like Harper) AND cover (unlike Harper), that alone gives them the advantage at Safety. Greer & Porter are VERY solid corners..problem is health. I need my corners to be out there for 16 games, which is why I sided with GB. Woodson's added versatility is another reason why I gave the Pack the edge.

Don't get me wrong, Jenkins is a stud, but everywhere else there's some questions...albeit slight ones


Well I just think it's much closer between the two than what I thought you decided upon in the preview, but, alas, I might've misinterpreted the nuances of your speech, since English isn't my native language.

My (Black & Gold) opinion is that the Packers have a slight edge with the safeties - due to what you already alluded to - but I think that the Saints have a similar edge with the CBs. Granted that Woodson is a monster of a DB, but I'd still take the Saints' 3 CBs over the 3 from the Packers as a group.

Health has been - and might continue to be - a problem for the Saints' backfield. But as AsylumGuido stated, all of them are healthy for this particular game, which is what we are discussing here.

Still, I have to emphasize that I really enjoyed your preview despite this small disagreement between us. http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/fun/m0121.gif

papz 09-06-2011 09:46 AM

I'm the opposite. I believe they have the edge at corner while we have it at safety. We have good corners... they have really really good corners.

strato 09-06-2011 09:51 AM

Yeah they have a better overall D than us..i have to admit...but i think we have an edge in the running game..we need to run them to death.spread them out and run the ball...and use play action and screens for that over aggressive D we must block Matthews the guy will be coming..I expect G.W to dial up some cover blitzes to try and pressure Rogers and not get burnt at the same time...and Kasey has to make his kicks for us to win..JMO

And as usual great job Emory...sorry bout those Rajun Cajuns this weekend...lol

FootballCEO 09-06-2011 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 326889)
While you may be correct concerning a 16 game season, we are talking about one game with all players coming in healthy.

Oh, and good job once again. I really enjoy these every week.

Thanks AG! With one game, everyone healthy... Hmmmm.. I still gotta go with the Pack.. Greer sometimes makes me want to watch baseball how he gets turned around on certain plays

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 326892)
Well I just think it's much closer between the two than what I thought you decided upon in the preview, but, alas, I might've misinterpreted the nuances of your speech, since English isn't my native language.

My (Black & Gold) opinion is that the Packers have a slight edge with the safeties - due to what you already alluded to - but I think that the Saints have a similar edge with the CBs. Granted that Woodson is a monster of a DB, but I'd still take the Saints' 3 CBs over the 3 from the Packers as a group.

Health has been - and might continue to be - a problem for the Saints' backfield. But as AsylumGuido stated, all of them are healthy for this particular game, which is what we are discussing here.

Still, I have to emphasize that I really enjoyed your preview despite this small disagreement between us. http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/fun/m0121.gif

Loving the debate FinSaint! My B&G opinion would rather them blow out the Packers... However, As long as Jim Thorpe aka Charles Woodson is back there.. I gotta side with the Safeties of the Packers

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 326894)
I'm the opposite. I believe they have the edge at corner while we have it at safety. We have good corners... they have really really good corners.

You guys like Harper more than I do I guess... I LOVE him in the run game and on blitzes..everything else makes me choose Barnett over him

FootballCEO 09-06-2011 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by strato (Post 326898)
Yeah they have a better overall D than us..i have to admit...but i think we have an edge in the running game..we need to run them to death.spread them out and run the ball...and use play action and screens for that over aggressive D we must block Matthews the guy will be coming..I expect G.W to dial up some cover blitzes to try and pressure Rogers and not get burnt at the same time...and Kasey has to make his kicks for us to win..JMO

And as usual great job Emory...sorry bout those Rajun Cajuns this weekend...lol

Thanks Strato!! Hey... my Cajuns pitched a shutout for 1:49 seconds in the 1st quarter.. that my friend is what I like to call improvement! LOL

I agree...Payton is less stubborn than McCarthy when it comes to running the ball.. Saints can control the pace of the game IF Payton realizes that its okay to run

strato 09-06-2011 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FootballCEO (Post 326899)
Thanks AG! With one game, everyone healthy... Hmmmm.. I still gotta go with the Pack.. Greer sometimes makes me want to watch baseball how he gets turned around on certain plays



Loving the debate FinSaint! My B&G opinion would rather them blow out the Packers... However, As long as Jim Thorpe aka Charles Woodson is back there.. I gotta side with the Safeties of the Packers



You guys like Harper more than I do I guess... I LOVE him in the run game and on blitzes..everything else makes me choose Barnett over him



I agree Rogers to Finley worries the crap out of me if Harper has to cover him..

Halo 09-06-2011 10:02 AM

Love the review, but I don't see how our special teams, which was horrible last year, has the edge on the Pack. Saints special teams had the most changes from last season. Call it a "shakeup" but that doesn't guarantee they are better. I hope they are.

Rugby Saint II 09-06-2011 11:46 AM

We both have outstanding offenses........our weakness is the LBing core. But we've got GW.

FinSaint 09-06-2011 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 326957)
We both have outstanding offenses........our weakness is the LBing core. But we've got GW.


I really hope that Casillas and Wilson will be able to win the OLB starting jobs during the season, and not by default like injuries to either or both Shanle and Herring...

But, by them outplaying Shanle and Herring and GW having the confidence in them to give them the starting jobs.

Beastmode 09-06-2011 12:26 PM

This is going to be a good game. Overall, I think the Packers have a slight advantage. I think the Saints improved D will show up along with solid running attack but Rodgers is a very good QB along with their kicker. I could see this game being decided by a couple of 45/50 yard boots. I don't have faith in Kasay anthing beyond 35 yds and I don't see Payton giving him the chance to kick anythng beyond that mark.

homerj07 09-07-2011 10:55 AM

I am concerned about the injury to Lance Moore - With Moore in I think we are even but w/o him it makes it easier on the GB def.

Mardigras9 09-07-2011 11:09 AM

Advantage GB, but like they said on ESPN, to be the champs you have to beat the champs, Geaux Saints.


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