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Well I had to wait a year too do it .

Was said you cannot use college stats , backup quarterback stats or single game stats .

So here it is Brookians and Delhommites .

The first years stats from Brooks first year and Delhommes first year .

Passing yds
Brooks = 3832
Jake = 3219

TD's - INT's
Brooks = 26 -22
Jake = 19 -16

Completion percentage
Brooks = 55.9
Jake = 59.2

Yards per attempt
Brooks = 6.87
Jake = 7.17

QB rating
Brooks = 76.4
Jake = 80.6

Super Bowl appearances
Brooks = 0
Delhomme = 1

Let the Crow eating festival begin .

Saved the biggest one for saintsfan , hope no one minds ...... :P

Since this years Super Bowl has a Cajun theme to it , at least for Saints fans . Hope you do not mind the extra spices ....lol

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While we\'re at it, can we list the players that Haslett got rid of since he came to NO that were either Pro Bowlers or on a playoff team (or both) since leaving, versus the guys we have signed that fit either of those two categories (NOT INCLUDING THE DRAFT - FREE AGENTS)?

This outta be laughable. Who wants to start?

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Oh jeez, NOT AGAIN!
1st off, if Jake was here we\'d still be an 8-8 team or worse.
If Brooks was in Carolina they\'d still be going superbowl.

Roaf? How can anyone argue with letting Roaf go considering all the facts. Salary cap hell, MEGA contract demands, Unhappy unproductive malcontent whose only hope at returning to a pro-bowl level was a change of scenery. Not to mention rumors of players sleeping with his wife.

Turley...sorry we upgraded that position with a better player at 1/2 the price.

Glover? Only player I see that we missed on.

Rickey? OK maybe we should\'ve let Deuce go instead?

I don\'t understand some people\'s logic...

If we let all these awesome players go elsewhere and replace them with Hacks, then it would appear we have no talent. If we have no talent then Haz and company must of coached their assses off to go 8-8 with no talent injury decimated team.

But I also hear that we should fire Haz for going 8-8 with a team full of talented players. I know I\'ve heard several say we have way too much talent on this team to go 8-8.

Which is it?

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Danno --

Some say it\'s all about coaching. Some of the very same ones says it\'s all Brooks fault. One in particular says that even tho it\'s all about coaching the Saints will go 12-4 next year in spite of the coaching. We must recognize the \"logic\" we\'re dealing with and move on.

On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. I have nothing against Delhomme, but I do have to say he\'s got to be the QB on the luckiest team I have seen since the 1998 Pickering High Red Devels! LOL I doubt they\'ll beat New England in Houston, but the Gods do seem to be with \'em.

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Let me see,
Philly 33, New Orleans 20
Carolina 14, Philly 3
Seems to me if we had Carolina\'s defense we win 20-3.

Its CLEARLY obvious that Brooks is 6 points better than Jake. Right?
I think I\'ll start yet another topic on this...

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 

LMAO

:P

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Brooks 6 points better ????

New Orleans 13 , Dallas 7
Carolina 29 , Dallas 10

You mean Jake is 16 points better then Brooks ..... ;)

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I don\'t have a huge opinion on this topic either way. I have great confidence in Haslett to make this a mediocre team. So I don\'t think Delhomme would have taken us to the playoffs. At the same time, I don\'t think that Brooks would be taking the Panthers to the superbowl, he just screws up at crucial moments.

However, it seems like the entire argument boils down to this truth.
A. Delhomme is under-rated
B. Brooks is over-rated

Where this becomes problematic is with our front office (strange that this has been the common thread for the history of the franchise with the exception of the Finks years).

In short, the guy with this team (Hazlett) who is supposed to be able to recognize and develop talent can\'t do either.

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Crap, I said I wouldn\'t be lured into another one of these debates but here I go again.
I do not think that if Brooks was in Carolina that they would be going to the Superbowl. Delhomme has that special ability to rally players around him, to get them to go that extra mile for him to win a game. He had it in New Orleans, almost everytime he came in the game you could sense/see the team step up a notch. He added that spark to the offense that wasn\'t there before. Even now, when it\'s FINALLY his time, he\'s as humble as can be to the point others are trying to make him take some of the credit for making to the big game. But by the same token I don\'t think if he was still in New Orleans he would\'ve led us to the superbowl, playoffs most probably, but not the superbowl. The coaching in this organization is noe set up for winning consistently or tweaking this team to adjust to other teams weakness\'s. Unilt the current regime is finally ousted, (read next year) we are not going anywhere. Geaux Jake boy, you get all you can! You deserve it and I hope you get it!

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Where to begin? Instead of comparing Delhomme to Brooks, let\'s compare Delhomme to Peyton Manning.

Peyton has been in the league 6-years and has won 2-playoff games. Jake has been a starter for 1-year and has won 3-playoff games. Jake makes plays in crunch time and Peyton? Well...........Peyton defines the term CHOKE ARTIST. Peyton Manning threw 4-interceptions in the AFC championship game and he alone is responsible of the loss.

Now all of you Delhomme faithful -- Is Delhomme better than Peyton? According to all the logic that you use in the Brooks vs. Delhomme debates, that would be the case.

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How about this analysis to mediate the Arguement ?

Let’s face it; Aaron Brooks is unquestionably more physically gifted than Jake Delhomme. But, as it seems with several other personnel decisions that Haslett/Loomis have made, they tend to become more enamored by athletes than by football players.

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 

Well said. Who are you and why are you using 08\'s computer?

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It was a simpler way of putting the truth

Brooks is an athlete , could play basketball , could be a receiver in the N.F.L. and brings the athleticism to the quarterbacking position in New Orleans .

Delhomme is a football player and a quarterback . He is not going to razzle and dazzle you with feats of atleticism , he is simply going to execute the play by design and drive the ball down your throat .

A football team that relys on the feats of a star to win , are one helmet blow away from losing a season ala the Falcons .

A football team that relys on the concept that there are no I\'s in team and it is about properly executing the plays as a team and winning as a team has a little more room for error .

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All this talk of \"smarts\" being more inmortant than \"atleticism\" is ridiculous. For the record, it takes BOTH. However, if I had to choose one or the other, I would choose \"athleticism.\"

Give me 11-track stars against 11-members of the \"debate team\" and let\'s see who wins. Anyone care to take that bet? There are all these geniuses out there who think this game is so complicated, when it\'s really not. What it boils down to is EXCECUTION. Of course, you can\'t have \"brain dead\" people out there, but they hardly need to be the smartest folks in the world.

All football intelligence requires is a player that is able to memorize a playbook. Then it boils down to \"football instincts.\" You can be the smartest player in the world and have good football insticts, and still not make it to NFL, yet alone be a great player. There\'s this little thing called \"athletcism\" that some folks like Randy Moss have that REALLY makes a big difference. You can teach Randy Moss to run routes better, run out of bounds to kill the clock, etc, etc,.. But you can\'t teach the \"athleticsm.\" NOPE!!

Coaching is a very important to winning in the NFL. However, it\'s the players that win and lose games most of the time. Great coaches come and go.(They usually go when they lose the great players they once have.) Tom Landry, Dan Reeves, Mike Shannahan, Jimmy Johnson, were all considered coaching geniues at one time. But, they don\'t look like genisuses anymore. Why? Because this isn\'t \"rocket science\" This is a game that is determined by \"atleticism\" FISRT and once that is gone, you are left with a below average team.

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 

Everybody in this city needs to get over it. Aaron Brooks is your quarterback. Jake Delhomme is the quarterback of the Carolina Panthers. All of these arguments are compleyely absurd. Stop embracing him and let it go. :exclam:

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 

Apparently thats much easier said than done my friend.
The Delhommites will never let it go.
They are obsessed by him.
He\'s their life blood.
They want to bear his children.
He completes them.

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 

That\'s funny Danno...and accurate.

Saintz08 made a good point earlier when he said:

The only problem is HE (08)didn\'t say it. Jeesh what does this guy have against posting a freakin\' L-I-N-K ?!? Here\'s another little snip from the article 08 tried to pass off as his own:

By Scott Balot - SaintsReport.com Staff Writer - 1:27 am CST

Is this Aaron’s fault? No, and true Saints’ fans should rally around this kid, because like it or not, he’s going to be the starter at least one more season and Delhomme isn’t coming back anytime soon. I don’t think it is fair to Brooks to constantly compare him to Delhomme simply for the fact that Delhomme is obviously playing for a better-run franchise. Kerry Collins, a former Saint quarterback, made it to the Super Bowl three years ago, but I don’t know anyone who would take Collins over Brooks. The bottom line is if Aaron Brooks were the quarterback in Carolina and Jake Delhomme was the quarterback in New Orleans, Carolina would still be in the Super Bowl this season.

AND AND AND...here\'s the link ;)

http://www.saintsreport.com/cgi-bin/...&id=1074580026

Let\'s give \'ol Scott the credit he deserves.

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 

I really don\'t pay 08\'s articles much attention, because he never provides a link and you never know what he\'ll try to pull off.

BUYER BEWARE!!!

Delhomme vs. Brooks
 

I don\'t think it\'s a question of Delhomme vs. Brooks, I think it\'s more of a question of being satisfied with the\"\'status quo.\" The status quo being the same hopes and dreams dashed every year after such hype about one thing or another. It\'s just Delhomme is a former Saint who made a great decision at just the right time and it paid off. And like most other former Saints who have given me no reason to hate him, (ala Turley) I will pull for him in the Superbowl just like I would\'ve for Roaf if K.C. would\'ve went. There\'s a lot of dissatisfied Saint\'s fans because of ALL the years we have seen come and go and still here we are, at home, *****ing about what went wrong. So I guess every former Saint that makes good is like adding insult to injury. Through and through we all love the Saints but we will not all agree on any one or more reasons why we seem to suck with what seems the talent to win.

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Saintsfan you gone brain dead ??

Notice the word Mine or I ?? Every time I see a dog chase his tail I think of you Saintsfan ... ;)

Henceforth how about this analysis , If it were mine I would state \" My thoughts are \" or \"My idea is \" .....

Notice General Discussion forum . The discussion was on the analysis not on the article . Did you graduate High School ?

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That, 08, is a direct quote from an article YOU didn\'t write, and as such you should post a link to it. Otherwise, those that don\'t know you very well might assume those words are yours, and they are not (I and others are on to you, but there are other newbies here that aren\'t...yet). Not to mention the requirement of this web site to POST A LINK. I just wonder why you refuse to do it. It\'s not that hard.

Articles from other sites: ...you must cite the source of the article and give them credit. Posting the entire article is not allowed, you can post part of the article and create a link to the rest. Most importantly, the source needs to be cited.

There is a very good reason for posting a link when using someone else\'s material 08. I\'m sure JOESAM or HALO would be happy to provide you with an exact reason that posting a link is required.

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Enough bickering. Get back to the subject.

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Too have a single faceted conversation point on a multi faceted debate .
oooh
And to irritate you .... :P

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You do it so well!

:P