Saints red zone performance .....

saintfan · 10-14-2011, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by papz

It's amazing we're 4-1 with a crappy o-line. Imagine if we had a better one, we'd probably be 4-1.

We'd be undefeated and GB would be 4-1. Short Yardage at the end of the GB game...

papz · 10-14-2011, 03:04 PM

That's not a given. We came back from a large deficit and would still have had a two point conversion.

On that same note, in my opinion, had Ingram not been so hesitant in his decision to leap or plow forward, he might have made it in. I wouldn't lay all the blame on our interior line on that one.

SaintsBro · 10-14-2011, 03:18 PM

I actually lay a lot of the blame on the ridiculous and inexcusable 108 yard kickoff return for a touchdown, which put the Saints right back in the huge hole right when they were just digging out from the Colston fumble, and giving ALL the momentum back to Green Bay, being behind by two scores again, thus leading to the need for ridonkulous Drew-led heroic comebacks and 1 yard needed on the last possible play of the game just to even TIE the thing. If the game had continued normally from being behind 28-20 in the 3rd, it would have had a TOTALLY different ending scenario, and thus all the people here focusing now obsessively on Ingram gaining that 1 yard would not have seemed nearly so crucial. Gaining that one yard wasn't even to win the game, they still needed the 2 pointer. Just. To. Tie.

Danno · 10-14-2011, 04:07 PM

All the Green Bay game showed me is that we are on equal footing with Green Bay, and one or two mistakes either way will decide the outcome.

I'm sure if we both make the playoffs, both teams' fans will be hoping the other gets eliminated.

I don't particularly wanna go up to Lambeau, and I'm sure they probably don't want us to come up there either.

lumm0x · 10-14-2011, 07:02 PM

Our two biggest issues. Red zone offense and 3rd down defense.

Our o-line is average to above average. Saying we suck is a gross exaggeration and not appreciative of the crap we have fielded in the past. These guys are very decent. It could be alot worse.

saintfan · 10-14-2011, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by papz

That's not a given. We came back from a large deficit and would still have had a two point conversion.

On that same note, in my opinion, had Ingram not been so hesitant in his decision to leap or plow forward, he might have made it in. I wouldn't lay all the blame on our interior line on that one.

You're right. Certainly not a given. But I had all the hope in the world and very little faith that we'd be able to run it in. We weren't able to as it turned out.

I blame the play call because (a) we are not a power run team by any stretch and (b) why would you give it to the rook in any case?

No matter. We b what we b. And I've cooled just a bit on bashing our oline (even though they do not excel at run blocking) because all I have to do is look at the Bears to be thankful for what we do have.

homerj07 · 10-14-2011, 07:45 PM

I agree our red zone "o' - sucks!! Anyone on the site live during a game knows we ALL agree with that!!

10-14-2011, 02:46 PM	#11
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by papz It's amazing we're 4-1 with a crappy o-line. Imagine if we had a better one, we'd probably be 4-1. We'd be undefeated and GB would be 4-1. Short Yardage at the end of the GB game... strato likes this.

10-14-2011, 04:07 PM	#14
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,647	All the Green Bay game showed me is that we are on equal footing with Green Bay, and one or two mistakes either way will decide the outcome. I'm sure if we both make the playoffs, both teams' fans will be hoping the other gets eliminated. I don't particularly wanna go up to Lambeau, and I'm sure they probably don't want us to come up there either. pumpkindriver likes this.

10-14-2011, 07:26 PM	#16
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by papz That's not a given. We came back from a large deficit and would still have had a two point conversion. On that same note, in my opinion, had Ingram not been so hesitant in his decision to leap or plow forward, he might have made it in. I wouldn't lay all the blame on our interior line on that one. You're right. Certainly not a given. But I had all the hope in the world and very little faith that we'd be able to run it in. We weren't able to as it turned out. I blame the play call because (a) we are not a power run team by any stretch and (b) why would you give it to the rook in any case? No matter. We b what we b. And I've cooled just a bit on bashing our oline (even though they do not excel at run blocking) because all I have to do is look at the Bears to be thankful for what we do have.
	C'mon Man...

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10-14-2011, 03:04 PM	#12
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,684	That's not a given. We came back from a large deficit and would still have had a two point conversion. On that same note, in my opinion, had Ingram not been so hesitant in his decision to leap or plow forward, he might have made it in. I wouldn't lay all the blame on our interior line on that one.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	I actually lay a lot of the blame on the ridiculous and inexcusable 108 yard kickoff return for a touchdown, which put the Saints right back in the huge hole right when they were just digging out from the Colston fumble, and giving ALL the momentum back to Green Bay, being behind by two scores again, thus leading to the need for ridonkulous Drew-led heroic comebacks and 1 yard needed on the last possible play of the game just to even TIE the thing. If the game had continued normally from being behind 28-20 in the 3rd, it would have had a TOTALLY different ending scenario, and thus all the people here focusing now obsessively on Ingram gaining that 1 yard would not have seemed nearly so crucial. Gaining that one yard wasn't even to win the game, they still needed the 2 pointer. Just. To. Tie.

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lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Our two biggest issues. Red zone offense and 3rd down defense. Our o-line is average to above average. Saying we suck is a gross exaggeration and not appreciative of the crap we have fielded in the past. These guys are very decent. It could be alot worse.

10-14-2011, 07:45 PM	#17
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	I agree our red zone "o' - sucks!! Anyone on the site live during a game knows we ALL agree with that!!