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saintfan 01-12-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jokeray (Post 368255)
I've NEVER heard Matt Ryan called elite. Are you guys hearing that from Falcons fans or something?

Seriously. John Clayton is the guiltiest of the bunch. Pat Yasinkas (ESPN South Blog) is another offender. ESPN in general has included him in the 'elite' category from pretty much half-way through his rookie season.

We are all aware of why they do it. The league wants elite QBs, but it's offensive to just about anybody who knows much of anything about football to call Matt "Skid Britches" Ryan elite when the likes of Brady, Manning (either one really) and Drew are playing.

jokeray 01-12-2012 02:56 PM

Ah, well there you have it. I can't stand ESPN, and haven't watched their NFL coverage in a few years.

RaginCajun83 01-12-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jokeray (Post 368369)
Alex Smith just finished his 7th season. When did he win his freaking playoff game?

He'll have to keep waiting cause it sure isn't happening this weekend

Tobias-Reiper 01-12-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jokeray (Post 368369)
Alex Smith just finished his 7th season. When did he win his freaking playoff game?


But Smith has had like 6 OCs in his 7 years, and he's been frankly on bad teams. He doesn't have the team around him the Clowns have.

lumm0x 01-12-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 368484)
But Smith has had like 6 OCs in his 7 years, and he's been frankly on bad teams. He doesn't have the team around him the Clowns have.

Very true. I guess Ryan just has no excuse. He's weak and a choker.

saintfan 01-12-2012 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 368499)
Very true. I guess Ryan just has no excuse. He's weak and a choker.

You can't blame it on the tools he has. Their O line isn't great but has been decent for years. Excellent running game. A HOF TE and a solid #1 WR, and this year Hoolie-Oh and that other guy, whats his face?

Anyway, no excuse. The guy just isn't a top tier QB. His deep ball stats are as bad (maybe worse) than Tebow.

Clayton and his ilk are officially exposed...again...

Tobias-Reiper 01-12-2012 05:00 PM

On the contrary, I think the talking head should continue to call Matty Melt elite. It makes for a much more satisfying Clown meltdown at the end of the season.

Danno 01-12-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 368511)
You can't blame it on the tools he has. Their O line isn't great but has been decent for years. Excellent running game. A HOF TE and a solid #1 WR, and this year Hoolie-Oh and that other guy, whats his face?

Anyway, no excuse. The guy just isn't a top tier QB. His deep ball stats are as bad (maybe worse) than Tebow.

Clayton and his ilk are officially exposed...again...

I look at it this way...

If you put Drew on that same exact team, they win big and damn sure don't choke in the clutch.

That offense is close to being as talented as ours, the difference is talent and leadership at QB.

We got it, they don't.


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