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turbo_dog 03-29-2004 12:05 AM

Will Smith likened to Darren Howard
 
By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

There is a terrific debate raging right now over the top two defensive end prospects in next month's draft. Ask 10 personnel directors or scouts about the top guy at the position and five will name Will Smith of Ohio State while the other five cite Southern California standout Kenechi Udeze. There is an increasing possibility now that both will be chosen among the top 12 players next month. Udeze had a strong workout this week, clocking 40-yard times of 4.78-4.81, posting a 39-inch vertical jump and a long jump of 10 feet, 5 inches, while completing 25 "repetitions" of the standard 225-pound bench press. But two scouts who attended the workout told ESPN.com that Udeze, who a few years ago dropped 80-plus pounds so that he could play end, almost looked too thin at 273 pounds. Smith was 267 pounds at his campus workout, torched the 40 in the 4.6-range, had a vertical jump of 38½ inches, a long jump of 9 feet, 9 inches, and did 30 bench press "reps." It is tough to choose between the two. Said one scout: "I give the slightest edge to Smith. He reminds me of (Saints defensive end) Darren Howard, but with more pure pass-rush ability. Watching him on tape, he's got that natural skill, closing speed, the knack for getting to the passer. But I like the other guy a lot, too, and it's a tough call."

joe87 03-29-2004 12:18 AM

Will Smith likened to Darren Howard
 
Udeze dropped over 80 lb\'s!?!?!? WHAT!!!

dberce1 03-29-2004 09:41 AM

Will Smith likened to Darren Howard
 
darren howard was extremely missed last year when he was injured. he is quite the impact player, even with a cast on his arm.

rAge 03-29-2004 12:40 PM

Will Smith likened to Darren Howard
 
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Udeze dropped over 80 lb\'s!?!?!? WHAT!!!
Yeah, he was around 370 or something is high school. Amazing, eh?

turbo_dog 03-29-2004 02:16 PM

Will Smith likened to Darren Howard
 
Yeah, I saw that on NFL network. That is one massive damn high schooler.

joe87 03-29-2004 02:53 PM

Will Smith likened to Darren Howard
 
I\'m not really suprised about how much he weighed (LSU got a recruit this offseason who weighs near 400 lb\'s!!), but losing 80 lb\'s has to be unhealthy!

rAge 03-29-2004 03:43 PM

Will Smith likened to Darren Howard
 
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I\'m not really suprised about how much he weighed (LSU got a recruit this offseason who weighs near 400 lb\'s!!), but losing 80 lb\'s has to be unhealthy!
Uh, no. Unhealthy is being 370lbs.

turbo_dog 03-29-2004 03:47 PM

Will Smith likened to Darren Howard
 
yeah. Get outta here before I cut some bacon off your back.

joe87 03-29-2004 04:00 PM

Will Smith likened to Darren Howard
 
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I\'m not really suprised about how much he weighed (LSU got a recruit this offseason who weighs near 400 lb\'s!!), but losing 80 lb\'s has to be unhealthy!
Uh, no. Unhealthy is being 370lbs.
Unhealthy is also losing over 80 lb\'s in such a short timespan.
Ever heard of tapeworms? :o

rAge 03-29-2004 07:59 PM

Will Smith likened to Darren Howard
 
Who said he lost it quick? It happend over a couple years.

joe87 03-29-2004 08:22 PM

Will Smith likened to Darren Howard
 
A couple would still be pretty bad... 4 years would be good though.

I thought it was over a year or 2, and that sounds like trouble.

JimBone 03-29-2004 08:22 PM

Will Smith likened to Darren Howard
 
I dont think that i have agreed with one single thing that rAGE has said in any of his posts.


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