Will Smith likened to Darren Howard

turbo_dog · 03-29-2004, 01:05 AM

By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

There is a terrific debate raging right now over the top two defensive end prospects in next month's draft. Ask 10 personnel directors or scouts about the top guy at the position and five will name Will Smith of Ohio State while the other five cite Southern California standout Kenechi Udeze. There is an increasing possibility now that both will be chosen among the top 12 players next month. Udeze had a strong workout this week, clocking 40-yard times of 4.78-4.81, posting a 39-inch vertical jump and a long jump of 10 feet, 5 inches, while completing 25 "repetitions" of the standard 225-pound bench press. But two scouts who attended the workout told ESPN.com that Udeze, who a few years ago dropped 80-plus pounds so that he could play end, almost looked too thin at 273 pounds. Smith was 267 pounds at his campus workout, torched the 40 in the 4.6-range, had a vertical jump of 38ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚Â½ inches, a long jump of 9 feet, 9 inches, and did 30 bench press "reps." It is tough to choose between the two. Said one scout: "I give the slightest edge to Smith. He reminds me of (Saints defensive end) Darren Howard, but with more pure pass-rush ability. Watching him on tape, he's got that natural skill, closing speed, the knack for getting to the passer. But I like the other guy a lot, too, and it's a tough call."

joe87 · 03-29-2004, 01:18 AM

Udeze dropped over 80 lb\'s!?!?!? WHAT!!!

dberce1 · 03-29-2004, 10:41 AM

darren howard was extremely missed last year when he was injured. he is quite the impact player, even with a cast on his arm.

rAge · 03-29-2004, 01:40 PM

Udeze dropped over 80 lb\'s!?!?!? WHAT!!!

Yeah, he was around 370 or something is high school. Amazing, eh?

turbo_dog · 03-29-2004, 03:16 PM

Yeah, I saw that on NFL network. That is one massive damn high schooler.

joe87 · 03-29-2004, 03:53 PM

I\'m not really suprised about how much he weighed (LSU got a recruit this offseason who weighs near 400 lb\'s!!), but losing 80 lb\'s has to be unhealthy!

rAge · 03-29-2004, 04:43 PM

I\'m not really suprised about how much he weighed (LSU got a recruit this offseason who weighs near 400 lb\'s!!), but losing 80 lb\'s has to be unhealthy!

Uh, no. Unhealthy is being 370lbs.

turbo_dog · 03-29-2004, 04:47 PM

yeah. Get outta here before I cut some bacon off your back.

joe87 · 03-29-2004, 05:00 PM

I\'m not really suprised about how much he weighed (LSU got a recruit this offseason who weighs near 400 lb\'s!!), but losing 80 lb\'s has to be unhealthy!

Uh, no. Unhealthy is being 370lbs.

Unhealthy is also losing over 80 lb\'s in such a short timespan.
Ever heard of tapeworms?

rAge · 03-29-2004, 08:59 PM

Who said he lost it quick? It happend over a couple years.

03-29-2004, 01:05 AM	#1
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Will Smith likened to Darren Howard By Len Pasquarelli ESPN.com There is a terrific debate raging right now over the top two defensive end prospects in next month's draft. Ask 10 personnel directors or scouts about the top guy at the position and five will name Will Smith of Ohio State while the other five cite Southern California standout Kenechi Udeze. There is an increasing possibility now that both will be chosen among the top 12 players next month. Udeze had a strong workout this week, clocking 40-yard times of 4.78-4.81, posting a 39-inch vertical jump and a long jump of 10 feet, 5 inches, while completing 25 "repetitions" of the standard 225-pound bench press. But two scouts who attended the workout told ESPN.com that Udeze, who a few years ago dropped 80-plus pounds so that he could play end, almost looked too thin at 273 pounds. Smith was 267 pounds at his campus workout, torched the 40 in the 4.6-range, had a vertical jump of 38ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚Â½ inches, a long jump of 9 feet, 9 inches, and did 30 bench press "reps." It is tough to choose between the two. Said one scout: "I give the slightest edge to Smith. He reminds me of (Saints defensive end) Darren Howard, but with more pure pass-rush ability. Watching him on tape, he's got that natural skill, closing speed, the knack for getting to the passer. But I like the other guy a lot, too, and it's a tough call."

03-29-2004, 01:18 AM	#2
joe87 Registered Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Denham Springs Posts: 76	Will Smith likened to Darren Howard Udeze dropped over 80 lb\'s!?!?!? WHAT!!!

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dberce1 Chuck Liddells Right Hand Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Prairieville, Louisiana Posts: 1,227	Will Smith likened to Darren Howard darren howard was extremely missed last year when he was injured. he is quite the impact player, even with a cast on his arm.

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rAge 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 320	Will Smith likened to Darren Howard Udeze dropped over 80 lb\'s!?!?!? WHAT!!! Yeah, he was around 370 or something is high school. Amazing, eh?
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turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Will Smith likened to Darren Howard Yeah, I saw that on NFL network. That is one massive damn high schooler.

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joe87 Registered Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Denham Springs Posts: 76	Will Smith likened to Darren Howard I\'m not really suprised about how much he weighed (LSU got a recruit this offseason who weighs near 400 lb\'s!!), but losing 80 lb\'s has to be unhealthy!

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rAge 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 320	Will Smith likened to Darren Howard I\'m not really suprised about how much he weighed (LSU got a recruit this offseason who weighs near 400 lb\'s!!), but losing 80 lb\'s has to be unhealthy! Uh, no. Unhealthy is being 370lbs.
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turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Will Smith likened to Darren Howard yeah. Get outta here before I cut some bacon off your back.

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joe87 Registered Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Denham Springs Posts: 76	Will Smith likened to Darren Howard I\'m not really suprised about how much he weighed (LSU got a recruit this offseason who weighs near 400 lb\'s!!), but losing 80 lb\'s has to be unhealthy! Uh, no. Unhealthy is being 370lbs. Unhealthy is also losing over 80 lb\'s in such a short timespan. Ever heard of tapeworms?

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rAge 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 320	Will Smith likened to Darren Howard Who said he lost it quick? It happend over a couple years.
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