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Old 03-04-2012, 08:48 PM   #1
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Something doesn't add up

Although head coach Sean Payton was not a direct participant in the funding or administration of the program, he was aware of the allegations, did not make any detailed inquiry or otherwise seek to learn the facts, and failed to stop the bounty program. He never instructed his assistant coaches or players that a bounty program was improper and could not continue.
For starters, I don't see how a player could be the rat, as there's no way a player could ascertain any information regarding conversations between players and coaches. But even then, how would coaches even know if there weren't conversations that were taking place behind closed doors with Gregg Williams and Sean Payton. I don't see any way possible that there could be evidence of this, quite frankly it sounds rather fishy to me.
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I doubt Payton has much interaction with the defensive players.

I've never heard of an offensive player being a participant in a bounty to hurt another player.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:57 PM   #3
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I doubt Payton has much interaction with the defensive players.

I've never heard of an offensive player being a participant in a bounty to hurt another player.
Well yes, but the notion that Sean Payton did nothing to stop it is almost improvable unless he endorsed it, which the investigation stated that he never did. It doesn't add up, it's like they are stating a finding without anything that could possibly back it up.
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This whole thing is fishy! Show me the EVIDENCE!!
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:23 PM   #5
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While you guys are eating the math of this, explain this to me. I'll take the worst offender from last year. A one Roman Harper, racked up at least 37,500 dollars in fines last year.

15,000 for an after the play hit and scuffle with WR Steve Smith of the Carolina Panthers.
15,000 for a hit administered to Matt Hasselback
7,500 dollars for a facemask on Tennessee's Damian Williams

Where the hell does that 1,500 help him here!!!!
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:23 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by alleycat_126 View Post
While you guys are eating the math of this, explain this to me. I'll take the worst offender from last year. A one Roman Harper, racked up at least 37,500 dollars in fines last year.

15,000 for an after the play hit and scuffle with WR Steve Smith of the Carolina Panthers.
15,000 for a hit administered to Matt Hasselback
7,500 dollars for a facemask on Tennessee's Damian Williams

Where the hell does that 1,500 help him here!!!!
If 1500 seem insignificant think about how much each player had to contribute to the pot, something like $50. This is what makes no sense to me. Why even waste your time on such a trivial amount of money. There are conflicting reports on how much money was actually involved as well.
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This whole thing makes no sense.... And how espn could break the story, before the investigation was even over, ALSO very suspicious..... I for one, am hoping there is way more to this story, and the whole thing blows up in Adam Sphincter's face....
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This whole thing makes no sense.... And how espn could break the story, before the investigation was even over, ALSO very suspicious..... I for one, am hoping there is way more to this story, and the whole thing blows up in Adam Sphincter's face....
Slow NFL news time of year .... LOL
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:55 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by hitta View Post
For starters, I don't see how a player could be the rat, as there's no way a player could ascertain any information regarding conversations between players and coaches. But even then, how would coaches even know if there weren't conversations that were taking place behind closed doors with Gregg Williams and Sean Payton. I don't see any way possible that there could be evidence of this, quite frankly it sounds rather fishy to me.
I have to agree with THIS assessment! Players at least my impression don't snitch; every team has this going on and if they say they don't they're a $%^# lie!!!! off top plan and simple - unless he's disgruntled. Every team though has a team snitch and he called " the teams UNNAMED SOURCE"
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If 1500 seem insignificant think about how much each player had to contribute to the pot, something like $50. This is what makes no sense to me. Why even waste your time on such a trivial amount of money. There are conflicting reports on how much money was actually involved as well.
EXACTLY - the fines are way more than the pot so why do it - this is BS and I think they're trying to make an example out of the Saints. If this was the case than Williams should have been investigated a long time ago as he had aggressive defense in Washington, Bills and in Jacksonville
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