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dizzle88 07-24-2012 03:42 AM

Minnesota thought Darren sharper was old and couldn't contribute

10 ints and a Super Bowl later I beg to differ

Give the guy a shot, a one year deal can't hurt

jeanpierre 07-24-2012 04:08 AM

Spags must like what he sees now that we haven't gone out and signed anyone or made a trade...

Carter would have been a good signing, a year ago...

The injury at age 30 - that's not a good combination...

FinSaint 07-24-2012 05:13 AM

Not impressed by Carter and I would prefer them to save the money, even if its vet minimum, and hopefully Spags can find a young recruit from the UDFA pool or from another team's PS if the need arises for more rotational players.

McBride, Galette, Jordan, and Wilson will be enough for the first four games, and then they'll get Smith back, also some of the younger "no-name" guys on the roster might surprise us, like Braylon Broughton.

Also, Hicks could move to the edge position temporarily if the need became dire, since he played that position in Canada along with being a DT - he would probably be out of place against NFL competition, but still...

saintsfan1976 07-24-2012 05:33 AM

Why does everyone seem to forget Junya?

Although its a long shot to expect production this season, I'm excited about Braylon Broughton.

Danno 07-24-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 420697)
Why does everyone seem to forget Junya?

Although its a long shot to expect production this season, I'm excited about Braylon Broughton.

I'm reading some more about him. Here's a profile that seems to be fairly common...
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Braylon Broughton
School: TCU
Position: OLB
Bio: Started five games as a senior, posting 25 tackles/6 tackles for loss/2 sacks. Junior totals included 11/2/1.

Positive: Athletic yet undeveloped defensive prospect with a high upside. Plays with good quickness, is fluid changing direction and stays on his feet. Easily makes plays in every direction of the field, works his hands to protect himself and plays with good lean. Effective out of a three-point stance or standing up over tackle.

Negative: Does not play to his 40 time. Lacks balance, on the ground too much and easily blocked from the action. Minimally explosive.

Analysis: Broughton is an outstanding athlete with elite size/speed numbers, but he was minimally productive and rarely consistent on the college field. He improved his game last season and is worth consideration on a practice squad as a developmental outside linebacker.

Late bloomer or a just a great athlete with great measurables?

His measurables sure do grab your attention though.

TheOak 07-24-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 420694)
Not impressed by Carter and I would prefer them to save the money, even if its vet minimum, and hopefully Spags can find a young recruit from the UDFA pool or from another team's PS if the need arises for more rotational players.

McBride, Galette, Jordan, and Wilson will be enough for the first four games, and then they'll get Smith back, also some of the younger "no-name" guys on the roster might surprise us, like Braylon Broughton.

Also, Hicks could move to the edge position temporarily if the need became dire, since he played that position in Canada along with being a DT - he would probably be out of place against NFL competition, but still...

Being 8 Mill under the cap.. Bring them all in, who ever makes it makes it... Cut the rest until we are 2 mil under cap in case we need to cover for injuries.

FinSaint 07-24-2012 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 420716)
Being 8 Mill under the cap.. Bring them all in, who ever makes it makes it... Cut the rest until we are 2 mil under cap in case we need to cover for injuries.


It's one thing being $8M under the cap and a completely other to fit all the players under the 53 man roster limit.

I just don't see the benefit in spending money when it is not necessary, and I just can't see Carter being a difference maker worthy of spending money and a roster spot on him - and it seems that Spags agrees.

Seer1 07-24-2012 09:34 AM

In Spags we trust..........okay, okay, in Spags we hope!

TheOak 07-24-2012 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 420722)
It's one thing being $8M under the cap and a completely other to fit all the players under the 53 man roster limit.

I just don't see the benefit in spending money when it is not necessary, and I just can't see Carter being a difference maker worthy of spending money and a roster spot on him - and it seems that Spags agrees.

We have until the first week of the season to hit 53.... Thats 5 weeks....

Lets go fishing, keep all that are big enough, try and keep a few on the practice squad, throw the best back....

Not spending unless you keep them.... We can speculate all day as to who will preform... or put them on the field for a month and see who preforms.

FinSaint 07-24-2012 10:17 AM

I seriously doubt that Carter is willing to go for a try-out type of a deal - he'll want guaranteed money up front, and it'll all come from Mr. Benson's pocket who just spend boatloads to sign Brees.

Bringing in loads of guys could also be interpreted by the players themselves as a signal that the staff doesn't fully believe in their abilities, which could have a negative impact on their performances leading up to the preseason. I do fully support the notion of creating competition within the different positions to get the best out of the players, but if there already exists a sufficient level of competition... I don't see the point in bringing in more guys who are not familiar with the system the other guys have been getting familiar with for the past two months.

And, naturally, the argument can be made that players should understand that it's a business and that bringing in new guys to compete is part of the NFL business and not take it personally, but there are a lot of young guys on the roster who have not yet build up their confidences to the level they are with vets, so I'd be hesitant to introduce anything to the team that might jeopardize their state-of-mind, especially with the otherwise crazy offseason the Saints have already had.

Now, if we were talking about bringing in a true impact player, as in someone like Freeney, I'd be all ears, but we are talking about a rotational player at best, so it has to be a "no" on bringing him in, IMO.


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