Saints cut LB Bussey, DB Davis and OG Tiller

Danno · 08-11-2012, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

I hear ya. I wasn't refering so much to how much money we will have to pay him. I was more referring to the fact that he has been an under achiever his entire career. Got a good pay day with the Broncos and then got bounced. Then get bounced from the Titans with 2 yrs left on his contract. Doesn't sound like that great of a player to me. JMO

Well I don't think anyone thinks he's Tony Gonzales. He is what he is, and thats a merely adequate TE that excells in blocking and may provide some pointers to our young TE's and may be an emergency fill in if one of our guys goes down during the season.

I highly doubt the front office brought him in hoping he'd be one of our top 3.

The Dude · 08-11-2012, 04:13 PM

I thought the FO was pretty high on Bussy as a backup project. Guess not. with all the talent we have looks like he wont be back on the PS either.

Boutte · 08-11-2012, 04:23 PM

Too bad about Bussey. He and Romeus were last years hopes for diamond in the rough D players. Hope he catches on somewhere.

FinSaint · 08-11-2012, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Never liked the Tiller pick, at all.

Still not liking the Jones pick, but it looks like he may prove me wrong so far.

The Tiller pick wasn't my favorite either since he had that weight problem years back and it might indicate that he has some issues on the mental side.

Jones, on the other hand, had a much bigger upside in my mind and he has looked better on the right side of the O-line than Brown on the left, but that isn't saying much. Granted Jones didn't have a stellar game against the Pats and he found himself on his back looking at the sky during an interception, but he had pretty good scouting evaluations and should benefit greatly from having such a great O-line coach as Kromer teaching him. The Saints desperately need quality depth on the O-line and Strief is not a pro bowl RT, so maybe Kromer can build another Nebraska product into a starter like he did with Nicks.

And I don't have anything against Strief, but I'd rather see him as a depth guy than a starter.

I was hoping more out of Bussey, so it's sad it didn't work out for him with the Saints. But the Saints are a quality organization, and they've done this in the past with many players - release them early enough in the preseason, so that they still have a good chance to sign with another team.

ScottF · 08-11-2012, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

He prolly will Scott. I'm reading that in order to IR a player in pre-season, he has to clear waivers first.

Its probably a new CBA rule to prevent teams from stashing everyone on IR if they get a hangnail in training camp.

You are probably right-- I tried to find the rules before I posted that, but didn't spend that much time on it. I did see that his salary was/is $2.1m over 4 years, so that wouldn't be the issue.

Rugby Saint II · 08-11-2012, 05:14 PM

There goes another one of our draft choices.

Seer1 · 08-11-2012, 05:37 PM

Man. There's something floating around in the back of my mind about Graham. It seems he started out like a house afire with the donkeys. Then he did something really stupid, pissed a lot of people off and it was all downhill from there. I think the skills are there and if The Saints can help him get his poop in a group, he could be a decent acquisition for us. I'll see if I can dig up what happened with him.

QBREES9 · 08-11-2012, 10:59 PM

Thats not good when your draft picks don't work out.

TheOak · 08-13-2012, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Man. There's something floating around in the back of my mind about Graham. It seems he started out like a house afire with the donkeys. Then he did something really stupid, pissed a lot of people off and it was all downhill from there. I think the skills are there and if The Saints can help him get his poop in a group, he could be a decent acquisition for us. I'll see if I can dig up what happened with him.

You get a like just for using "poop in a group"

Crusader · 08-13-2012, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Thats not good when your draft picks don't work out.

Not good but to be expected. It usually means you had success with a UDFA or an FA instead, unless you're the Cleveland Browns...

08-11-2012, 03:59 PM	#11
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,647	Re: Saints cut LB Bussey, DB Davis and OG Tiller Originally Posted by CharityMike I hear ya. I wasn't refering so much to how much money we will have to pay him. I was more referring to the fact that he has been an under achiever his entire career. Got a good pay day with the Broncos and then got bounced. Then get bounced from the Titans with 2 yrs left on his contract. Doesn't sound like that great of a player to me. JMO Well I don't think anyone thinks he's Tony Gonzales. He is what he is, and thats a merely adequate TE that excells in blocking and may provide some pointers to our young TE's and may be an emergency fill in if one of our guys goes down during the season. I highly doubt the front office brought him in hoping he'd be one of our top 3.

08-11-2012, 04:13 PM	#12
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Saints cut LB Bussey, DB Davis and OG Tiller I thought the FO was pretty high on Bussy as a backup project. Guess not. with all the talent we have looks like he wont be back on the PS either.
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08-11-2012, 04:23 PM	#13
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Saints cut LB Bussey, DB Davis and OG Tiller Too bad about Bussey. He and Romeus were last years hopes for diamond in the rough D players. Hope he catches on somewhere.

08-11-2012, 04:39 PM	#14
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Re: Saints cut LB Bussey, DB Davis and OG Tiller Originally Posted by Danno Never liked the Tiller pick, at all. Still not liking the Jones pick, but it looks like he may prove me wrong so far. The Tiller pick wasn't my favorite either since he had that weight problem years back and it might indicate that he has some issues on the mental side. Jones, on the other hand, had a much bigger upside in my mind and he has looked better on the right side of the O-line than Brown on the left, but that isn't saying much. Granted Jones didn't have a stellar game against the Pats and he found himself on his back looking at the sky during an interception, but he had pretty good scouting evaluations and should benefit greatly from having such a great O-line coach as Kromer teaching him. The Saints desperately need quality depth on the O-line and Strief is not a pro bowl RT, so maybe Kromer can build another Nebraska product into a starter like he did with Nicks. And I don't have anything against Strief, but I'd rather see him as a depth guy than a starter. I was hoping more out of Bussey, so it's sad it didn't work out for him with the Saints. But the Saints are a quality organization, and they've done this in the past with many players - release them early enough in the preseason, so that they still have a good chance to sign with another team.
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08-11-2012, 04:46 PM	#15
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints cut LB Bussey, DB Davis and OG Tiller Originally Posted by Danno He prolly will Scott. I'm reading that in order to IR a player in pre-season, he has to clear waivers first. Its probably a new CBA rule to prevent teams from stashing everyone on IR if they get a hangnail in training camp. You are probably right-- I tried to find the rules before I posted that, but didn't spend that much time on it. I did see that his salary was/is $2.1m over 4 years, so that wouldn't be the issue.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Saints cut LB Bussey, DB Davis and OG Tiller Man. There's something floating around in the back of my mind about Graham. It seems he started out like a house afire with the donkeys. Then he did something really stupid, pissed a lot of people off and it was all downhill from there. I think the skills are there and if The Saints can help him get his poop in a group, he could be a decent acquisition for us. I'll see if I can dig up what happened with him. TheOak likes this.

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08-13-2012, 06:15 AM	#19
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: Saints cut LB Bussey, DB Davis and OG Tiller Originally Posted by Seer1 Man. There's something floating around in the back of my mind about Graham. It seems he started out like a house afire with the donkeys. Then he did something really stupid, pissed a lot of people off and it was all downhill from there. I think the skills are there and if The Saints can help him get his poop in a group, he could be a decent acquisition for us. I'll see if I can dig up what happened with him. You get a like just for using "poop in a group"

08-13-2012, 07:59 AM	#20
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 7,986	Re: Saints cut LB Bussey, DB Davis and OG Tiller Originally Posted by QBREES9 Thats not good when your draft picks don't work out. Not good but to be expected. It usually means you had success with a UDFA or an FA instead, unless you're the Cleveland Browns...

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