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The Dude 08-20-2012 08:11 PM

Saints acquire LB Barrett Rudd from Seahawks for an Undisclosed Pick
 
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The Saints signed Linebacker Barrett Rudd from Seattle. Anyone know anything about him? Might as well make one thread about all new LB signings because there will probably be a bunch.

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Executive Vice President/General Manager Mickey Loomis announced that the club has acquired linebacker Barrett Ruud from the Seahawks in exchange for an undisclosed draft pick.
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Vrillon82 08-20-2012 08:52 PM

Re: Saints sign LB Barrett Rudd
 
If their is cap room, they should look into Merriman.

Its at a point you have to look at just about anyone as far as LBers go.

|Mitch| 08-20-2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 429777)
We got Barret Rudd from Seattle. Who is that?

He's a LB, I just remember him when we played TB and he was with them...

I found this:

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David Hawthorne is now with the Saints. His replacement could be Barrett Ruud. Calling this a massive downgrade is a major understatement. Ruud was one of the five worst starting linebackers in the NFL last year. He's been terrible for the past few seasons.

blackangold 08-20-2012 08:56 PM

Re: Saints sign LB Barrett Rudd
 
Rudd played MIKE for the bucs and started for 2 seasons. Mostly noted for getting run over by Ivory. In fact the only time I have seen him mentioned he is getting trucked by some RB... Crap signing, wont start but will add depth I guess. Would still like to see Merriman get a shot.

The Dude 08-20-2012 08:59 PM

Re: Saints sign LB Barrett Rudd
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 429781)
Rudd played MIKE for the bucs and started for 2 seasons. Mostly noted for getting run over by Ivory. In fact the only time I have seen him mentioned he is getting trucked by some RB... Crap signing, wont start but will add depth I guess. Would still like to see Merriman get a shot.

Great! The other LBs are so great at stoping the run that he can focus on other things!

The Dude 08-20-2012 09:04 PM

Re: Saints sign LB Barrett Rudd
 
We gave up a draft pick for this cream puff too.

|Mitch| 08-20-2012 09:05 PM

Re: Saints sign LB Barrett Rudd
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 429784)
We gave up a draft pick for this cream puff too.

Let's see what Spags can do with him, ya never know...

Halo 08-20-2012 09:08 PM

Re: Saints sign LB Barrett Rudd
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 429784)
We gave up a draft pick for this cream puff too.

Draft pick or not, Loomis and our organization responds faster than almost any team in the NFL. Kudos to the front office!!

Halo 08-20-2012 09:12 PM

Re: Saints sign LB Barrett Rudd
 
COME ON PEOPLE, GIVE US AN OPINION!
Seeing a LOT of logged in lurkers lately.
GET YOUR HEAD OUT THE SAND AND GIVE US AN OPINION!!!
Even if you just like it or dislike it, come on and post with us!! :bng:

papz 08-20-2012 09:12 PM

Re: Saints sign LB Barrett Rudd
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 429781)
Rudd played MIKE for the bucs and started for 2 seasons. Mostly noted for getting run over by Ivory. In fact the only time I have seen him mentioned he is getting trucked by some RB... Crap signing, wont start but will add depth I guess. Would still like to see Merriman get a shot.

Uh... he had a couple of solid years for the Bucs. In fact, at one point I really liked the guy. It seems he's fallen off the map quite a bit, but I doubt we gave up anything for the guy. Not a lot of risk here and there's a little upside.

|Mitch| 08-20-2012 09:14 PM

Re: Saints sign LB Barrett Rudd
 
Any way he plays Saturday?

blackangold 08-20-2012 09:17 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
I am sure he will play Saturday, although he didn't play in this last Preseason game because.... wait for it.... wait for it.. he was injured lol. great signing!

NonieT 08-20-2012 09:19 PM

Re: Saints sign LB Barrett Rudd
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 429788)
there's a little upside.

What is it?

Halo 08-20-2012 09:19 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 429790)
I am sure he will play Saturday, although he didn't play in this last Preseason game because.... wait for it.... wait for it.. he was injured lol. great signing!

What was his injury?

The Dude 08-20-2012 09:20 PM

Re: Saints sign LB Barrett Rudd
 
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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 429786)
Draft pick or not, Loomis and our organization responds faster than almost any team in the NFL. Kudos to the front office!!

I can reach down right now and pick up a piece of dust on the floor real quick too. At this point I want Merriman. He has more potential to revitalize his career here. If he is healthy and doesn't want a ton of money I don't see much of a down side.

blackangold 08-20-2012 09:21 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 429792)
What was his injury?

Something with his Knee, not specified could just be a precaution but why sign a dinged up LB to replace your dinged up LBs...

papz 08-20-2012 09:22 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
Maybe he can be coached back to his former self. He was a pretty good player for a few years and still 29.

Halo 08-20-2012 09:22 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 429794)
Something with his Knee, not specified could just be a precaution but why sign a dinged up LB to replace your dinged up LBs...

We have some that aren't able to play.
Sounds like he'll play against the Texans without crutches lol.
I trust the front office. They see things we don't.

The Dude 08-20-2012 09:26 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 429790)
I am sure he will play Saturday, although he didn't play in this last Preseason game because.... wait for it.... wait for it.. he was injured lol. great signing!

BAWHWHWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Seer1 08-20-2012 09:27 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
Where'd we find a draft pick?

|Mitch| 08-20-2012 09:28 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
Found this:

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News: Ruud did not play in Seattle's exhibition opener Saturday because of a sore left knee, the Seattle Times reports. (Sun Aug 12)

Halo 08-20-2012 09:29 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 429799)
Found this:

I'll take "sore" over "torn" or "sprained" any day!

The Dude 08-20-2012 09:30 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 429798)
Where'd we find a draft pick?

What do you mean? We have tons of them...Oh wait.

|Mitch| 08-20-2012 09:30 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
He also had 57 tackles 1 interception last year

Ashley 08-20-2012 09:30 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
I don't know anything about the guy, but happy to see the people in charge are making moves to plug up a hole.

Halo 08-20-2012 09:39 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
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Originally Posted by Ashley (Post 429811)
I don't know anything about the guy, but happy to see the people in charge are making moves to plug up a hole.

I'd say he's currently better than Shanle... :)

The Dude 08-20-2012 09:40 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
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Originally Posted by Ashley (Post 429811)
I don't know anything about the guy, but happy to see the people in charge are making moves to plug up a hole.

Usually when you are too hasty to plug a hole it can lead to injury....or at the very least inflammation and sores.

papz 08-20-2012 09:40 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
I love it when fans throw players under the bus so quickly. He may or may not be washed up, but it certainly doesn't help morale looking at everything through chicken little's glasses.

Sorry... Patrick Willis isn't on the market right now. Take what we can get right now and hope for the best. I swear reading those type of comments just irks the **** out of me sometimes.

QBREES9 08-20-2012 09:41 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
Loomis and Spags knows a lot more then we do. It's a good thing

|Mitch| 08-20-2012 09:41 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 429813)
I'd say he's currently better than Shanle... :)

He did have 14 more tackles than Shanle last year...

maybe not, I think I was looking at the wrong stat...

Halo 08-20-2012 09:53 PM

Vilma doesn't like the Cornhusker infestation. So Rudd is also a Husker...just like Shanle....

JonVilma51: @scottshanle I don't like this cornhusker infestation

More...

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papz 08-20-2012 09:56 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
Barrett Ruud's regular 2009 statistics look impressive: 142 tackles, tied for second with London Fletcher and behind Patrick Willis for the most tackles in 2009. Some of that is due to the poor play around him, which means he's often the first one to actually tackle opposing players. However, that's not all of it: Ruud has great range and diagnoses the play very well. According to Football Outsiders he was in on 19% of all Bucs defensive plays in 2008, which was the highest percentage of any player in the league. In 2009 he was in on 18% of all plays, which was 7th highest in the league. Whatever his 2009 faults were, he was good at getting to the ball before the play was over.

Another thing that few people will dispute: Ruud is great in coverage. He can run down the seam with most tight ends in the league and has a good feel for the underneath passing game. He doesn't show up much in the passing stats, but that can be attributed to teams throwing less to his area of the field. Of course, any MLB will still have to rely on safety help over the top, and we were woefully lacking last year in that aspect, at least when Sabby was the relevant safety.

Those aspects of his play are the least controversial, but the one aspect that has this fanbase divided on Ruud is his play against the run. In an attempt to resolve this, I'll take a look at Ruud's advanced statistics in the run game and what they say about his play last year after the jump.

Examining Barrett Ruud's 2009 season using Football Outsiders' advanced statistics - Bucs Nation

He had multiple seasons like that in Tampa Bay. So there's the little upside... and there's that garbage player that was only being mentioned when he was ran over like a rag doll in Tampa Bay.

At least give the guy a chance. Dude hasn't even put on a uniform yet and you have the Saint trolls come out the woodwork and ragging on him. Heaven forbid the guy misses a tackle while he's here.

jcp026 08-20-2012 10:12 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
With all the injuries, this move almost seems like an absolute necessity. I like it.

Halo 08-20-2012 10:13 PM

I know he ate Ivory's jock, but I thought the guy was a decent LB for the Bucs. I lost track of him. I definitely like the depth!

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st thomas 08-20-2012 10:30 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 429820)
Barrett Ruud's regular 2009 statistics look impressive: 142 tackles, tied for second with London Fletcher and behind Patrick Willis for the most tackles in 2009. Some of that is due to the poor play around him, which means he's often the first one to actually tackle opposing players. However, that's not all of it: Ruud has great range and diagnoses the play very well. According to Football Outsiders he was in on 19% of all Bucs defensive plays in 2008, which was the highest percentage of any player in the league. In 2009 he was in on 18% of all plays, which was 7th highest in the league. Whatever his 2009 faults were, he was good at getting to the ball before the play was over.

Another thing that few people will dispute: Ruud is great in coverage. He can run down the seam with most tight ends in the league and has a good feel for the underneath passing game. He doesn't show up much in the passing stats, but that can be attributed to teams throwing less to his area of the field. Of course, any MLB will still have to rely on safety help over the top, and we were woefully lacking last year in that aspect, at least when Sabby was the relevant safety.

Those aspects of his play are the least controversial, but the one aspect that has this fanbase divided on Ruud is his play against the run. In an attempt to resolve this, I'll take a look at Ruud's advanced statistics in the run game and what they say about his play last year after the jump.

Examining Barrett Ruud's 2009 season using Football Outsiders' advanced statistics - Bucs Nation

He had multiple seasons like that in Tampa Bay. So there's the little upside... and there's that garbage player that was only being mentioned when he was ran over like a rag doll in Tampa Bay.

At least give the guy a chance. Dude hasn't even put on a uniform yet and you have the Saint trolls come out the woodwork and ragging on him. Heaven forbid the guy misses a tackle while he's here.

THANKS PAPZ, good stat read on ruud. if he can cover a tightend or lock end on a running qb, i know 2 that can and will run on our schedule, he's a great pick-up.

Luda34 08-20-2012 10:34 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
I think it a good trade if he can plays the way he played at Tampa Bay.

Seer1 08-20-2012 10:49 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
Hey now, Shanle could run down tight ends too! He ran right down and watched them cross the goal line.....

Welcome aboard Barrett. Hope you have the best season of your career.

saintfan 08-20-2012 10:52 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
Hell we needed another body. Maybe it's a late-rounder with performance contingencies?

The Dude 08-20-2012 10:53 PM

Re: Saints trade Seahawks for LB Barrett Rudd for Undisclosed Pick
 
Hopefully we are getting all the bad luck out of the way early. Maybe this means we will have a streak of good luck throughout the season. It would be such a tremendous story if we could rise above all this adversity and come out SB champs. No team has ever surmounted this kind of adversity. The cards could not be stacked any less in our favor.

jeanpierre 08-20-2012 11:07 PM

Re: Saints sign LB Barrett Rudd
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 429788)
Uh... he had a couple of solid years for the Bucs. In fact, at one point I really liked the guy. It seems he's fallen off the map quite a bit, but I doubt we gave up anything for the guy. Not a lot of risk here and there's a little upside.

Agreed, he was a very good LB for the Bucs; they changed schemes and he didn't fit in...

As difficult as it is to say this, I'd rather see one of our guys getting trucked by trying than some guy pulling up with a lame move just for style points...

If we signed him, somebody (maybe Spagnuolo) sees something...

Merriman? can he really still play on that artificial knee?

Would prefer youth, but it's not like there's alot of quality LB out there for us...

And leave Martez right the F**K where he is; I want to see a F***ing Pass Rush in this decade!


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