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papz 09-30-2012 08:52 AM

Colston contract a mistake?
 
NFL Network's Mike Lombardi suggested on Gameday Morning Sunday that the Saints may already be regretting Marques Colston's five-year, $36.3 million offseason contract extension.

"I think it's a contract that, if you're a Saint fan, you looking at it saying, 'Wait a minute. He hasn't really been a good player.' Right now, no team has a problem playing man-to-man on Marques Colston," Lombardi said. "No team has a problem going against the Saints' receivers. They don't explode, they don't run fast. ... Without free access, you've gotta be able to get open. And if you can't get open, all of a sudden that $40 million becomes a bad contract."


He deserved that money.

lynwood 09-30-2012 08:57 AM

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Same could be said of Brees' contract. Colston is just one WR. He isn't and never was that fast, but he caught the ball when thrown to him. Everyone except maybe PT, hasn't been playing up to their contract.

Danno 09-30-2012 08:57 AM

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Well he is dealing with a foot injury. I'm thinking that may have something to do with cutting and pushing off?

Also, our #2 WR has been hurt, and our #4 WR was placed on IR.

voodooido 09-30-2012 08:57 AM

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I don't think. He has been hurt which has caused a slow start. No to mention but we would have Henderson as our #1 if we did not sign him. I still see 1000+ yards and 8tds. The offensive line has hindered him also. When Drew has no time to find a open wr then he gets no balls.

dizzle88 09-30-2012 09:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papz;444542"I think it's a contract that,[B
if you're a Saint fan, you looking at it saying, 'Wait a minute. He hasn't really been a good player.[/B]' Right now, no team has a problem playing man-to-man on Marques Colston," Lombardi said. "No team has a problem going against the Saints' receivers. They don't explode, they don't run fast. ... Without free access, you've gotta be able to get open. And if you can't get open, all of a sudden that $40 million becomes a bad contract."

What the hell have you been watching lombardi?

Yeah colston hasn't started well, neither has the rest of our team

but to say that Colston isn't a good player and didnt deserve the contract is absurd

A matter of Fact there is proof that you don't know what your talking about which goes to the tune of 6,400 receiving yards and 48 TD's, NOT COUNTING POSTSEASON!

"Analyst" HA, grow up!

poydras 09-30-2012 09:43 AM

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There's no point in assessing anyone's worth this year when we don't have a coach, don't have an interim coach and the team is playing without intensity or desire from top to bottom. When Sean get's back, a bunch of players are going to find out that he's been watching and they'll be dealt with accordingly.

Budsdrinker 09-30-2012 09:49 AM

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That's a very painful injury he's playing with. Plantar facinitis or however it is spelled has put players on IR. Lombardi is a Dick for even saying that Saints fans regret his contract

Joker 09-30-2012 09:57 AM

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Colston has a contract that IMO is for what he's done in past years, I don't think he has much left considering the punishment he's taken for past years. He not worth the contract or the salary cap room, I love this guy but he's not fast, dropping balls as of this year and the beginning of last. He doesn't require double coverage ( safety over the top ) so why give him 36 million when you could have distributed that money on the defensive line.
In all Colston is a product of Sean's system. Jimmy Graham will have to be paid at some point in time ( near future ) what are we going to sacrifice to keep JG considering Drew's contract.

Beastmode 09-30-2012 10:08 AM

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His numbers are better than TO during the same time frame. What's there to regret when he's averaging over a 1,000 yds a season?

Joker 09-30-2012 10:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 444570)
His numbers are better than TO during the same time frame. What's there to regret when he's averaging over a 1,000 yds a season?

The question was it a mistake to give him a big contract, and the answer is yes!!! I love the guy but he's not worth the money and the amount it's going to take up in salary cap. Colston's good days are behind him and he's a product of the system.
At this point the saints still need a deep threat receiver which they don't have, I know Mike Wallace is a free agent next year, do the Saint's have the money to sign a guy like that and Jimmy Graham because of MC's/ DB's contract and fix the defense, IMO no, and don't have enough draft picks unless Mickey Loomis has some magic moves that I don't see.

GeauxForMore 09-30-2012 10:25 AM

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I'm not regreting his contract. Colston has a nose for the ball and catches everything..........usually.........anyway before we signed him in the off season teams were lining up for a chance at Colston.

Joker 09-30-2012 10:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poydras (Post 444566)
There's no point in assessing anyone's worth this year when we don't have a coach, don't have an interim coach and the team is playing without intensity or desire from top to bottom. When Sean get's back, a bunch of players are going to find out that he's been watching and they'll be dealt with accordingly.

Hopefully he's watching Sedric Ellis

jeanpierre 09-30-2012 11:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 444545)
Well he is dealing with a foot injury. I'm thinking that may have something to do with cutting and pushing off?

Also, our #2 WR has been hurt, and our #4 WR was placed on IR.

Colston doesn't seem like the type to let the Big Mo get to him...

Quote:

Originally Posted by poydras (Post 444566)
There's no point in assessing anyone's worth this year when we don't have a coach, don't have an interim coach and the team is playing without intensity or desire from top to bottom. When Sean get's back, a bunch of players are going to find out that he's been watching and they'll be dealt with accordingly.

Good Point! There are so many variables including Bree's "Summer of Drew"

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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 444577)
Hopefully he's watching Sedric Ellis

As if he wasn't in enough pain already...

Srgt. Hulka 09-30-2012 11:09 AM

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I think there are a lot of things the Saints regret this year, and Colston's contract is WAY down on that list!

TheOak 09-30-2012 01:15 PM

How does Drew get drug into everything?

Joker 09-30-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 444603)
How does Drew get drug into everything?

Has to be the contract that he has, he said that he didn't want a contract that wouldn't allow the Saints to sign other players and that's exactly what happened.
His performance this year hasn't been that of a 100 million dollar QB

winmill1 09-30-2012 01:34 PM

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I always thought Colston was a product of our system. I thought Nicks was a more important piece.

Joker 09-30-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by winmill1 (Post 444609)
I always thought Colston was a product of our system. I thought Nicks was a more important piece.

Couldn't agree more, why let go of the best offensive lineman. I can only think of 1 reason, had to pay Drew Bree's and couldn't afford him

winmill1 09-30-2012 01:41 PM

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In a perfect world we would have signed Drew and tagged Nicks. This would have given us room to sign more D help like a Laron Landry which I would have loved and move Harper to Lb. or just any defenders.

dizzle88 09-30-2012 01:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker (Post 444606)
Has to be the contract that he has, he said that he didn't want a contract that wouldn't allow the Saints to sign other players and that's exactly what happened.
His performance this year hasn't been that of a 100 million dollar QB

And when drew said he wanted a team friendly contract so we could re-sign other players, he dragged it out for that long that we couldn't franchise nicks, if brees agreed to a contract quicker, colstons contract would be done and we could has franchise nicks

But brees' team friendly deal proved to be everything but team friendly, now we have a frail O line, a battered and slow receiving corp and underachieving 100 million dollar man

Joker 09-30-2012 01:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 444614)
And when drew said he wanted a team friendly contract so we could re-sign other players, he dragged it out for that long that we couldn't franchise nicks, if brees agreed to a contract quicker, colstons contract would be done and we could has franchise nicks

But brees' team friendly deal proved to be everything but team friendly, now we have a frail O line, and battered and slow receiving corp and underachieving 100 million dollar man

Perfectly said, Drew made his own problems. Now the Saints will be bargain basement shopping like Barrett Rudd

WhoDat!656 09-30-2012 02:00 PM

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The Saint problems have precious little to do with Nicks being in Tampa!

No head coach and injuries are reasons 1 and 1a why!

TheOak 09-30-2012 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker (Post 444606)
Has to be the contract that he has, he said that he didn't want a contract that wouldn't allow the Saints to sign other players and that's exactly what happened.
His performance this year hasn't been that of a 100 million dollar QB

Absolute BS. His contract made room to sign more players, had he signed the FT, there would have been less room.

TheOak 09-30-2012 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 444614)
And when drew said he wanted a team friendly contract so we could re-sign other players, he dragged it out for that long that we couldn't franchise nicks, if brees agreed to a contract quicker, colstons contract would be done and we could has franchise nicks

But brees' team friendly deal proved to be everything but team friendly, now we have a frail O line, a battered and slow receiving corp and underachieving 100 million dollar man

Do a little research.

Drews contract this year $3M

Had he signed $16.3 M

And no contract was put in front of him to sign before he was tagged. Once he was tagged, no one else could be tagged this year.

poydras 09-30-2012 05:17 PM

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Watching Colston today is painfull. All he can do is limp around on that foot injury. Unless you're betting on them, these games are meaningless. Why aren't we sitting Marques until he gets better or, with an injury that takes so long to heal, put him on IR??

papz 09-30-2012 05:23 PM

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A 60% healthy Colston is better than most of our other options.

voodooido 09-30-2012 06:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poydras (Post 444662)
Watching Colston today is painfull. All he can do is limp around on that foot injury. Unless you're betting on them, these games are meaningless. Why aren't we sitting Marques until he gets better or, with an injury that takes so long to heal, put him on IR??


What game are you watching???????? 153 yards and a td is not limping around.

saintsfan403 09-30-2012 06:49 PM

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this thread is a joke, the problem with the saints is that we have the worst play calling in the league. on that first and goal after the penalty to raji and we don't even try to run it, that ingram toss was so poorly executed a pop warner team could have defended it, not like we have jimmy graham either...the team is playing better, but we don't have SP, so it's like watching a bunch of 15 year olds run a house hold..no dad to whoop everyones ass.

hagan714 09-30-2012 06:52 PM

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ok all those that wanted to sign colston no matter what raise your hands

Joker 09-30-2012 07:06 PM

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This is where I eat my words, Colston was a beast and at this point worth every penny. Need more games from him like that, but others have to contribute as well and they did. Coaching decisions may have cost the Saint's this game.
SORRY COLSTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boutte 09-30-2012 07:10 PM

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Can't believe Colston has never made a pro-bowl. He's toughest WR in the league.

poydras 09-30-2012 07:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 444682)
What game are you watching???????? 153 yards and a td is not limping around.

Can you not see that he's hurting? There is no point in continuing to aggravate that injury in meaningless games. He has an injury that is NOT going to get better until he stays off of it.

Srgt. Hulka 09-30-2012 07:57 PM

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Colston and Bree's are the only players that showed up today.

You want to talk about a waste of time, let's talk about Duece Ingram for a while. He's good for two yards tops, then he lays down.

TheOak 10-01-2012 06:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poydras (Post 444758)
Can you not see that he's hurting? There is no point in continuing to aggravate that injury in meaningless games. He has an injury that is NOT going to get better until he stays off of it.

No I did not see him hurting at all in this game and every game counts. Especially NFC south and NFC games.

Mardigras9 10-01-2012 12:18 PM

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He is a clutch guy and playing injured on an 0-4 team. Character reciever, glad to have him.

Shoe. 10-01-2012 12:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poydras (Post 444758)
Can you not see that he's hurting? There is no point in continuing to aggravate that injury in meaningless games. He has an injury that is NOT going to get better until he stays off of it.

A) Conference opponent. Hardly a meaningless game. Especially at 0-3, that win on the road would've been a HUGE morale boost

B) I have heard numerous NFL players quoted as saying that nearly all of them are playing through pain at some point in the season, just a matter of when

C) He was clutch in that game and was a big reason we almost squeaked out of there with a win. Did he drop a couple? Yeah, but he also hung onto WAY more

TheOak 10-01-2012 12:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 445208)
He is a clutch guy and playing injured on an 0-4 team. Character reciever, glad to have him.

9 catches for 153 yards a TD and a 19 yard long


We must ride the clutch... Woman drivers.

Rugby Saint II 10-01-2012 01:04 PM

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Nope. He has had a couple of drops before and picked it up. It's just time for him to catch everything again.

QBREES9 10-01-2012 01:07 PM

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Man a lot of people are going crazy.


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