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papz 10-29-2012 06:46 AM

Handwerger: Reality sets in on lost season for Saints
 
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DENVER — If it hadn’t already, a reality should bet setting in now.
The New Orleans Saints, the ones you’ve become accustomed to over the past few seasons, are no longer around.

No one has to tell you this is not a good football team.

The 2-5 record does that.

Sunday night in Denver, the Saints’ reality came crashing down from a Mile High altitude It falsely sat on through most of October.

The score was 34-14 but it felt worse. The Saints were outgained by 278 yards but it felt worse. New Orleans was on 1 of 12 on third downs but it felt worse.

This is what you’re going to get in 2012. One week, maybe even two, the Saints will be good. Then they’ll be bad again. And it’ll be frustrating to watch if you’re a fan.

“We just weren’t playing Saints football,” Jermon Bushrod said, his eyes blankly staring to nowhere as he remained in part of his uniform nearly 20 minutes after the game. “That’s really the frustrating part about it all. We know what we’re capable of doing and when we don’t do it, it’s extremely frustrating.”

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dizzle88 10-29-2012 06:52 AM

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1 of 12 on third downs..........says it all
530 yards for broncos offense............says it all
Drives of 98 yards, 96 yard and 93 yard all ending in a TD...........says it all

saintsfan1976 10-29-2012 07:32 AM

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Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde offense meets anther inept defensive performance.

Welcome to the rest of your 2012 season.

halloween 65 10-29-2012 09:12 AM

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The O is 1-2 players in the draft from being dominate again, that would be my 1st fix, the D is a mess, I'd trade Ingram for picks for next year, Jenkins for a pick or player from another team, send Egg Ellis packing, draft a really dominate DT in the 2nd, O-lineman in the 1st, a FS in the 2nd that pick taken from what we get from Ingram a reciever that can spread the field in the 3rd, a lb. in the 3rd from a package deal, a big corner in the 4th. Bunkley and Jordan are really good, Lofton is a good field general, there is talent on the D and it is not a total rebuild nessassary on the D 3-4 key spots DT and FS being the main 2, also on the O 1-2 players, the light at the end of the tunnel is not a fright train, it's better picks in the draft and thats what it's going to take. Hicks is a keeper also. Payton will know exactly what we need and get them. A diamond in the ruff couldn't hurt either.

TheOak 10-29-2012 09:23 AM

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EVERY Offense has a bad week here and there... The problem is we do not have a defense that can keep us in the game on those weeks.

Mardigras9 10-29-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 452865)
EVERY Offense has a bad week here and there... The problem is we do not have a defense that can keep us in the game on those weeks.

I hear that, defense is horrible. But how did they go from 6th in the league in rushing last year to a non-existent running game this year? Same backs, only one different lineman. Doesn't make sense to me. I understand we were playing from behind in most games and that dictates passing, but the run has been absent it seems from the start.

foreverfan 10-29-2012 09:38 AM

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Vitt ain't worth a ***t! :neutral:

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mike27 10-29-2012 10:24 AM

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Now we'll have to look forward to them, perhaps, being spoilers for teams like Atlanta.

They seem to be improving, then "bam" they don't show up to play.

I think putting too much blame on the defense, as bad as it is, isn't right. Drew didn't have his historical accuracy, and when he did, the ball was shooting straight through Jimmy Graham's hands. You keep handing the ball back to Manning, and you're going to get cooked on a spit.

TheOak 10-29-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 452869)
I hear that, defense is horrible. But how did they go from 6th in the league in rushing last year to a non-existent running game this year? Same backs, only one different lineman. Doesn't make sense to me. I understand we were playing from behind in most games and that dictates passing, but the run has been absent it seems from the start.

The only differences between last year and this year besides the one lineman which I don't think is a plausible reason, is that Sean Payton is not as predictable and we played with a lead most of the season.

I believe the biggest issue is that Sean Payton would be running with a 2012 playbook instead of the 2011 playbook like Kromer and Vitt use.

lumm0x 10-29-2012 11:18 AM

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Offense had a terrible day and give the Bronco's defense credit where it's due. But the bottom line is and doesn't look likely to change soon.....we don't score 40, we don't win. This defense is not only statistically the worst ever to step on a field, it looks like it too. It's pathetic to watch the lack of effort, the lack of execution and the lack of desire to adapt to teams steam rolling it over and over. They are broken men and the end is not near.

mike27 10-29-2012 12:04 PM

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Maybe taking the week of the bye off, at least for the healthy, wasn't such a good idea

NOLA54 10-29-2012 12:34 PM

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I am very depressed!

st thomas 10-29-2012 12:51 PM

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either the defense has our playbook or our recievers can't get out of there own way. drew had plenty of time to get on rythum, there was sheet coverage on our recievers. its a common sight everytime we come across a team that has decent corners and at least one good defensive end. thats why i agree we will be dominant one week and horrific another. and i mentioned nothing about our pourous defensive. getting better will be a flip of a coin. everything goes for positive yards no matter if we hit them in the backfield or at the line of scrimmige our defense just falls back with the force of a runner. there may be to much baggage in some minds to produce how they are paid to do. theres just no intensity.

SaintsBro 10-29-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 452865)
EVERY Offense has a bad week here and there... The problem is we do not have a defense that can keep us in the game on those weeks.

I'm not sure we even have a defense that can keep us in the game when the offense is flying high and firing on all cyllinders! The rules still say we have to kick off to the other team after we score.

TheOak 10-29-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 452973)
I'm not sure we even have a defense that can keep us in the game when the offense is flying high and firing on all cyllinders! The rules still say we have to kick off to the other team after we score.

not at 0:00 which happens at 1/2 time and end of game:p

Crusader 10-29-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 452827)
Welcome to the rest of your 2012 season.

I'm expecting some guys to start playing for their contracts any day now...

Rugby Saint II 10-29-2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 452869)
I hear that, defense is horrible. But how did they go from 6th in the league in rushing last year to a non-existent running game this year? Same backs, only one different lineman. Doesn't make sense to me. I understand we were playing from behind in most games and that dictates passing, but the run has been absent it seems from the start.

Does anyone here think that Nicks covered up for deficiencies at center and tackle?

skymike 10-29-2012 05:27 PM

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spot on article.

Rell&Gold 10-29-2012 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 453046)
Does anyone here think that Nicks covered up for deficiencies at center and tackle?

possible

NOS2SB 10-30-2012 02:33 AM

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