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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Seer1 We'll see. It's not spoken of much, but Urlacher was very fast . True, and a violent hitter before age and injuries caught up with him. Urlacher [Combine] 40 yd dash: 4.59 20 yd dash: 2.67 ...

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Old 05-28-2013, 04:38 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Seer1 View Post
We'll see. It's not spoken of much, but Urlacher was very fast.


True, and a violent hitter before age and injuries caught up with him.



Urlacher [Combine]

40 yd dash: 4.59
20 yd dash: 2.67
10 yd dash: 1.62
20 yd shuttle: 4.18
3 cone drill: 6.94


Thomas [Pro Day]

40 yd dash: 4.80
20 yd dash: 2.77
10 yd dash: 1.69
20 yd shuttle: 4.31 [Combine]
3 cone drill: 7.17 [Combine]



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Old 05-28-2013, 06:11 PM   #22
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Re: Rookie Chase Thomas set to help Saints defense

I watched him play when I lived in New Mexico. He was pretty amazing. He played safety, wide receiver and ran return duties as well. There were games where he beat teams single handedly.

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True, and a violent hitter before age and injuries caught up with him.



Urlacher [Combine]

40 yd dash: 4.59
20 yd dash: 2.67
10 yd dash: 1.62
20 yd shuttle: 4.18
3 cone drill: 6.94


Thomas [Pro Day]

40 yd dash: 4.80
20 yd dash: 2.77
10 yd dash: 1.69
20 yd shuttle: 4.31 [Combine]
3 cone drill: 7.17 [Combine]






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Re: Rookie Chase Thomas set to help Saints defense

We've all seen success stories about guys who didn't measure well, but were just really good football players. The NFL is full of them.

But we've also seen many players who were just really good football players at the college level not make it in the league (Mike Haas, Alfred Fincher, Courtney Watson, Cie Grant, Chip Vaughan, Stanley Arnoux, Nate Bussey etc...)

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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
We've all seen success stories about guys who didn't measure well, but were just really good football players. The NFL is full of them.

But we've also seen many players who were just really good football players at the college level not make it in the league (Mike Haas, Alfred Fincher, Courtney Watson, Cie Grant, Chip Vaughan, Stanley Arnoux, Nate Bussey etc...)

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He is an UDFA!!!!!!!!!!


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He needs to have a break out season!!! And it goes without saying he needs to be a Beast!!
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The next Shanle!
That would not be so bad. for years the saints tried to replace him and year after year he beat all comers. Shanle was never brought in to be a starter here. he just refused to go away for what 8 years?

I would be happy to see him make this team year after year no matter who the saint sign as a FA or draft.

I am not ready to put him as a starter but to get an UDFA as your key backup LB that can play inside or out for the next 10 years is a win win in my book

pass on the Urlacher comparison to different players with two different skill sets.

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OVERVIEW
In a November 2011 article about Thomas in the San Francisco Chronicle, former Stanford and current 49er defensive coordinator Vic Fangio aptly summed up scouts’ feelings about the versatile defender: “He was born to play football.” While quarterback Andrew Luck and the Cardinal’s offensive line received well-deserved hype over the past couple of seasons, Thomas impressed his coaches and pro scouts alike by wreaking havoc in opponents’ backfields.

The Georgia native redshirted in 2008 to add to weight to his lean sub-200 pound frame coming out of high school. He played 13 games, starting eight, in his freshman year after stepping in for injured defensive end Erik Lorig (36 tackles, seven for loss, four sacks). He earned honorable mention All-Pac 12 accolades as a linebacker in Fangio’s 3-4 scheme by leading Stanford in tackles for loss (11.5) and tying for the lead in sacks (7.5). His playmaking skills flourished as a junior, garnering All-American and first-team All-Pac 12 honors by increasing his production (17.5 tackles for loss, 8.5 sacks) for the second straight season.

The Stanford program didn’t miss a beat after losing Luck to the NFL. Riding the strength of their running game and defense, they lost just one game (in overtime to Notre Dame) and largely shut down many high powered offenses. Thomas had another year of gaudy production (71 tackles, 14.5 tackles for loss, 7.5 sacks) on his way to earning first-team All-Pac 12 honors once again.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Versatile edge defender who finds the ball regularly and has made plays at linebacker or defensive end. Displays violent and strong hands to get past the shoulder of his blocker on an edge rush or disengage when containing his side. Works his way though trash well on this inside, showing a bit of quickness to cut into the A-gap for run plays (or B-gap as a blitzer), work his man upfield on the pass rush or spin inside to take advantage of that lane. Good club and swim move inside. Mirrors pretty well in coverage, takes good angles to running backs in the flats, and gets physical with tight ends and crossing receivers. Usually beats tight ends and running backs when they pass block against him. High-effort player, hustles through single blocks and doubles to the ball, consistently chases plays from behind, and keeps his balance after taking on linemen at the second level. Has enough upper-body strength to separate the ball and create turnovers or slow down/stop ball carriers trying to cut past him.
WEAKNESSES Not an elite pass rusher with pure power, great flexibility or upfield speed to turn the corner. Also lacks top closing speed, relies on hustle to make plays. Lacks lengths and bulk, offensive tackles can keep him at bay and mirror him easily as an edge rusher. Needs to continue to get stronger, getting off blocks and keeping leverage will be a bit tougher against NFL linemen. Most of his pressures come against tight ends/running backs or inside stunts. Has good enough movement skills to handle coverage responsibilities in the flat, but quicker ball carriers cut past him in space and he struggles changing direction due to playing upright. One speed player who lacks burst off the ball on the edge or closing speed in pursuit.
NFL COMPARISON Connor Barwin
BOTTOM LINE An aptly-named defender who earned All-American accolades as a junior (17.5 tackles for loss, 8.5 sacks) with great hustle and instincts, Thomas displays potential as a starter for teams needing a strong-side linebacker or utility defender that plays on the line of scrimmage. His lack of length and athleticism handicap his ceiling, but he has been an ultra-productive defender on a good defense. If he fails to develop into a starter, he should at the very least be a capable backup linebacker and special teams player. He will likely be chosen on the second day of the draft.

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Re: Rookie Chase Thomas set to help Saints defense

Originally Posted by Danno View Post
We've all seen success stories about guys who didn't measure well, but were just really good football players. The NFL is full of them.

But we've also seen many players who were just really good football players at the college level not make it in the league (Mike Haas, Alfred Fincher, Courtney Watson, Cie Grant, Chip Vaughan, Stanley Arnoux, Nate Bussey etc...)

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Speaks volumes there, You watch those 3 players in college and think "they will be beasts for our team" I immediately thought the same thing

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That would not be so bad. for years the saints tried to replace him and year after year he beat all comers. Shanle was never brought in to be a starter here. he just refused to go away for what 8 years?

I would be happy to see him make this team year after year no matter who the saint sign as a FA or draft.

I am not ready to put him as a starter but to get an UDFA as your key backup LB that can play inside or out for the next 10 years is a win win in my book

pass on the Urlacher comparison to different players with two different skill sets.
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