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Danno 05-31-2013 10:24 AM

Vaccaro intends to add to Saints’ new-look defense
 
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He looks totally badass doesn't he?

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Kenny Vaccaro intends to add to Saints’ new-look defense Advocate staff photo by MATTHEW HINTON -- New Orleans Saints first- round pick Kenny Vaccaro, right, runs through drills at the team practice facility in Metairie on Thursday.
By Gary Estwick

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METAIRIE — First things first: He’s rookie Kenny Vaccaro, not Colin Kaepernick.

Similar haircut, skin tone, age, but their similarities end there. Folks around town, Vaccaro said, have confused him with Kaepernick, the quarterback who led the San Francisco 49ers to Super Bowl XLVII in New Orleans.

OK, back to Thursday’s news. Vaccaro is looking forward to getting after quarterbacks in the fall, a skill he rarely utilized last season at the University of Texas.

Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan calls it, “Let it Eat,” Vaccaro said. And the rookie who will play either free safety, strong safety or nickelback has a big appetite. One which matches Ryan’s hunger of returning Saints safeties to their sacking selves of the past.

“Oh yeah;I’m ready to blitz,” Vaccaro said. “I’m ready for everything.”

Already, the new-look defense has earned style points against the Saints offense.

“It’s a challenge for us, offensively, because we’re seeing some things that we haven’t seen in a while, or ever,” quarterback Drew Brees said. “You’ve always got to find ways to combat that.”

But to see middle linebacker Curtis Lofton rushing up the middle?

Certainly not predictable.

In 2011, strong safety Roman Harper spent as much time in backfields as secondaries, finishing with 71/2 sacks, tops for defensive backs in the NFL.

Last season’s defense, under former coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, placed Harper and free safety Malcolm Jenkins in different roles — roles they and their defensive teammates never quite figured out en route to a disastrous campaign.

Ryan, though, plans to bring back the pressure defense. This starts with veterans like Will Smith, Jonathan Vilma and Harper — all of whom made financial concessions to stay on the roster this offseason.

“I’ve been so impressed with their work ethic, their attention to detail and (them) being students of the game,” Ryan said. “So it’s going really well.

“It really doesn’t matter what happened last year. I went back and watched all the tape. ... It’s a work in progress. We’re all in this together. We’re working hard; we’re trying to get better every day.”

That effort continues with Vaccaro, whom the Saints selected 15th overall in April’s NFL Draft.

As a junior, Vaccaro collected the only two sacks of his college career. He spent most of last season defending slot receivers.

“I think I’m a relentless player,” he said. “That’s what you need when you’re blitzing to make plays and change momentum of the game.”

He’ll continue to pick up tips from Harper and Jenkins, both of whom have been a mainstay in the Saints secondary since 2010.

“An important element when you bring in a rookie is who’s in front of them,” Saints coach Sean Payton said. “When you have guys like a Roman Harper, a Malcolm Jenkins — guys that have experience, but are also solid guys — I think that helps the transition.”
Kenny Vaccaro intends to add to Saints

dizzle88 05-31-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 505709)
He looks totally badass doesn't he?

I think his versatility will be the anchor of our D's scheme, it sounds like you can put him anywhere and he'll win

I cant wait to see #32 smacking ball carriers and returning picks!

TheOak 05-31-2013 11:44 AM

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I can see it now. Kaepernik sacks Kaepernik 3 times when the Saints face the 49ers and Vaccaro gets 1 INT off of Vaccaro.

Jamessr 05-31-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 505721)
I can see it now. Kaepernik sacks Kaepernik 3 times when the Saints face the 49ers and Vaccaro gets 1 INT off of Vaccaro.

I actually understand that

AllSaints 05-31-2013 12:54 PM

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Im so glad we drafted this guy its who I wanted them to draft this whole offseason ! He will be a great player for the black and gold !

TheOak 05-31-2013 01:09 PM

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Ill caption:

Bush- "dayyyuumm rook! You intercepted all those balls?"

Vaccaro - "Stop staring at my balls"



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|Mitch| 05-31-2013 01:11 PM

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Most fans were screaming "pass rusher"; seeing as how Ryan plays man for the most part grabbing the #1 safety makes perfect sense now.

Not too mention, the LB position has became suddenly crowded with the talent...

Seer1 05-31-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 505736)

"Okay, I'll catch'em, but not all at once..."

Danno 05-31-2013 02:41 PM

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Bush - "You picked off all of those in one practice? DAYUM Dog!!! Thats more than Harp has in 7 years!"

halloween 65 05-31-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 505750)
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Bush - "You picked off all of those in one practice? DAYUM Dog!!! Thats more than Harp has in 7 years!"

I can't believe you cut Harper like that!! (Ha,Ha)

Danno 05-31-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 505763)
I can't believe you cut Harper like that!! (Ha,Ha)

Anyone can see Harp has hands of stone. No one's ever suggested otherwise.

But he's a heck of a lot better than most here give him credit for, he just can't catch a football to save his life.

darksoul35 05-31-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 505765)
Anyone can see Harp has hands of stone. No one's ever suggested otherwise.

But he's a heck of a lot better than most here give him credit for, he just can't catch a football to save his life.

Your right. Ive never seen a player used worse then he was last season.

Seer1 05-31-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 505765)
Anyone can see Harp has hands of stone. No one's ever suggested otherwise.

But he's a heck of a lot better than most here give him credit for, he just can't catch a football to save his life.

He's done okay catchin' quarterbacks though.

billyt81 05-31-2013 04:16 PM

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I appreciate the Black and Gold goggles bro, but the Saints LB core is far from crowded with talent. I'm not sold on Vaccaro. He's a good tackler with average speed. Sounds like Harper to me.

|Mitch| 05-31-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 505780)
but the Saints LB core is far from crowded with talent.

I beg to differ:

90 Butler, Victor LB 6-2 245 25 5 Oregon State
56 Chamberlain, Chris LB 6-1 238 27 6 Tulsa
93 Galette, Junior LB 6-2 258 25 4 Stillman
57 Hawthorne, David LB 6-0 246 28 6 Texas Christian
54 Herring, Will LB 6-3 241 29 7 Auburn
53 Humber, Ramon LB 5-11 232 25 5 North Dakota State
59 Johnson, Rufus LB 6-5 272 22 R Tarleton State
50 Lofton, Curtis LB 6-0 241 26 6 Oklahoma
55 Martin, Eric LB 6-2 250 21 R Nebraska
52 Reddick, Kevin LB 6-1 246 23 R North Carolina
46 Shipman, Ray LB 6-5 242 23 R Central Florida
91 Smith, Will LB 6-3 282 31 10 Ohio State
58 Thomas, Chase LB 6-3 241 23 R Stanford
51 Vilma, Jonathan LB 6-1 230 31 10 Miami (Fla.)

papz 05-31-2013 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 505780)
I appreciate the Black and Gold goggles bro, but the Saints LB core is far from crowded with talent. I'm not sold on Vaccaro. He's a good tackler with average speed. Sounds like Harper to me.

I can actually understand the skepticism with our linebackers(doesn't mean I agree), but Vaccaro and Harper do not sound alike. Vaccaro is combo safety athletic enough to cover slot receivers and more in the mold Malcolm Jenkins as opposed to Harper. Scouts have compared him to Eric Weddle... and Roman Harper is nothing similar to that. You're in a whole different ball park.

TheOak 05-31-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 505770)
He's done okay catchin' quarterbacks though.

Notice he stays away from their crotch?

Poor ball handling skills.

Danno 05-31-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 505798)
I can actually understand the skepticism with our linebackers(doesn't mean I agree), but Vaccaro and Harper do not sound alike. Vaccaro is combo safety athletic enough to cover slot receivers and more in the mold Malcolm Jenkins as opposed to Harper. Scouts have compared him to Eric Weddle... and Roman Harper is nothing similar to that. You're in a whole different ball park.

Agreed, he'll never be a Polomalu (a pure stud SS) or an Ed Reed (a pure stud FS), but he can be a very solid combination of the two, which is fine by me.

In the new age of pass happy offenses, he's the new breed... FSS (Free-Strong Safety).

Of course its only paper speculation for now.

halloween 65 05-31-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 505765)
Anyone can see Harp has hands of stone. No one's ever suggested otherwise.

But he's a heck of a lot better than most here give him credit for, he just can't catch a football to save his life.

I agree, I like his ole' school ways, I do wish he had good hands though.

billyt81 05-31-2013 05:55 PM

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I knew someone was gonna give me a list of names. I know all the names and I'm optimistic too, but is there one pro-bowler in that bunch? The dome patrol had 4. That was crowded.

Seer1 05-31-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 505799)
Notice he stays away from their crotch?

Poor ball handling skills.

Hahaha! Some might consider that a good thing.

|Mitch| 05-31-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 505811)
but is there one pro-bowler in that bunch? The dome patrol had 4. That was crowded.

Pro-Bowls is the way you evaluate talent, really? Don't you know that us fans vote on who makes the roster?

It's nothing more than a popularity contest these days...

Danno 05-31-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 505816)
Pro-Bowls is the way you evaluate talent, really? Don't you know that us fans vote on who makes the roster?

It's nothing more than a popularity contest these days...

It can be, but 1/3 of the vote are players, 1/3 of the vote are coaches, so its not exactly the popularity contest it would be if it were 100% fan vote.

Its biased and every year there are head scratchers, but they're mostly reputation votes.

Thats why I don't think Harper's two-time selection as an alternate should be dismissed. He damn sure wasn't voted in by fan bias so the players/coaches had more to do with his selection than fans.

The pro-bowl isn't a joke, but it damn sure doesn't consistently pick the very best player at each position year in and year out.

I'm convinced that if you do make it, its quite probable that you don't suck.

billyt81 05-31-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 505816)
Pro-Bowls is the way you evaluate talent, really? Don't you know that us fans vote on who makes the roster?

It's nothing more than a popularity contest these days...

I hope the linebackers show improvement but Harper ran a better combine 40 than Vaccaro. He had more college tackles, sacks, forced and recovered fumbles, and both had 5 career picks. Most in this forum hate Harper and love Vaccaro. He's gotta prove it to me. Then again, I only post when I'm drinking.

TheOak 05-31-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 505824)
I hope the linebackers show improvement but Harper ran a better combine 40 than Vaccaro. He had more college tackles, sacks, forced and recovered fumbles, and both had 5 career picks. Most in this forum hate Harper and love Vaccaro. He's gotta prove it to me. Then again, I only post when I'm drinking.

Combine numbers for the 40yd mean zip

The beer man had no college stats, went to the pro bowl and was all pro in 2002.

billyt81 05-31-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 505850)
Combine numbers for the 40yd mean zip

The beer man had no college stats, went to the pro bowl and was all pro in 2002.

Hasllett said that at his first tryout he clocked Beerman at 4.4 flat three times in wet grass. If 40 times are meaningless, why do em?

TheOak 05-31-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 505854)
Hasllett said that at his first tryout he clocked Beerman at 4.4 flat three times in wet grass. If 40 times are meaningless, why do em?

Because funnel times with draft beer would be unethical.

Believe as you wish. Who runs a straight line 40 during the game?

Apples and oranges.

QBREES9 05-31-2013 09:31 PM

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Who's Harper.

Seer1 05-31-2013 09:54 PM

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Last time I came even close to paying attention to the pro bowl, Romo got in. WTF?

When was the last time our linebackers got in the real bowl?

homerj07 06-01-2013 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 505736)
Ill caption:

Bush- "dayyyuumm rook! You intercepted all those balls?"

Vaccaro - "Stop staring at my balls"



http://theadvocate.com/csp/mediapool...YPE=image/jpeg

Damn you shift all those out? Most of hurt like a,monkey

TheOak 06-01-2013 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 505864)
Last time I came even close to paying attention to the pro bowl, Romo got in. WTF?

When was the last time our linebackers got in the real bowl?

You were the reason Romo got in?

dizzle88 06-01-2013 09:02 AM

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The last time any of our LB's were in the pro bowl was 2009 when vilma was an alternate, except we won the biggest prize that year

TheOak 06-01-2013 09:16 AM

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I had a reply but the Pro-Bowl is only a revenue stream that gives notoriety to players that were not good enough to make All Pro.

It's a meaningless, underwhelming, game played by second and third bests that doesn't allow some of the best to play because of the Super Bowl.

If I may add, the voting is a joke. Neither the coaches, fans, or players see any more than 20% of all the games or 40% of all the players in the league play.

Seer1 06-01-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 505902)
You were the reason Romo got in?

Hahaha! Yes, I was one of the idiot fans that found him too cute to be left out.

K Major 06-01-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 505780)
I appreciate the Black and Gold goggles bro, but the Saints LB core is far from crowded with talent. I'm not sold on Vaccaro. He's a good tackler with average speed. Sounds like Harper to me.

BillyT81,
I can totally understand your point of view and incredulous outlook for Vacarro but TRUST and BELIEVE.

Lebowski (Ryan) will have these boys ready to play on D. Lots of new YOUNG faces, seasoned vets, and a Head Coach who will push players like never before.

billyt81 06-01-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 505949)
BillyT81,
I can totally understand your point of view and incredulous outlook for Vacarro but TRUST and BELIEVE.

Lebowski (Ryan) will have these boys ready to play on D. Lots of new YOUNG faces, seasoned vets, and a Head Coach who will push players like never before.

Sorry for my pissy attitude. Of course I believe were going to the bowl. I'm bitter cuz we didn't get any of LSUs players. I thought Vaccaro shoulda been Reid. I'm gettin over it, on my way to get my Vaccaro jersey now.

vpheughan 06-02-2013 08:58 AM

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A defensive player that intends to add something to the defense!! Amazing!! If you drop a blue stone in the Red Sea, it gets wet!!! Also amazing!!

westbankdaze 06-02-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 505736)
Ill caption:

Bush- "dayyyuumm rook! You intercepted all those balls?"

Vaccaro - "Stop staring at my balls"



http://theadvocate.com/csp/mediapool...YPE=image/jpeg

Lmao

Rugby Saint II 06-02-2013 07:58 PM

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Harper still has a couple of good years left in him and Jenkins(you never know) in the last year of his contract. I'm hoping we phase out Jenkins......Vaccaro is an upgrade automatically.

Choupique 06-03-2013 12:48 AM

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danno couldn't run the length of a football field in a weeks time
yet he bashes on NFL players on his own team.

that reflects on his loyalty and character.

GOT IT.

what a douche.nozzle


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