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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Guys I don't Trust in this draft: DE Jadeveon Clowney, So Carolina TE Eric Ebron, No Carolina LB C.J. Mosley, Bama LB Ryan Shazier, Ohio St DE Dee Ford, Auburn WR Allen Robinson, Penn St TE ...

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Old 05-03-2014, 04:53 PM   #301
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Re: Mock Draft Simulator

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Guys I don't Trust in this draft:

DE Jadeveon Clowney, So Carolina
TE Eric Ebron, No Carolina
LB C.J. Mosley, Bama
LB Ryan Shazier, Ohio St
DE Dee Ford, Auburn
WR Allen Robinson, Penn St
TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington

And Anyone in the class from USC, Ohio St and Florida St

One Note, Mosley, I actually really like, but his medical records just have a dark forbodement about his NFL prospects that I can't ignore...
Now if you cant trust Robinson...there should be no reason to trust moncrief/matthews/bryant No indication on robinson to get the label untrustworthy. All are solid guys with tremendous upside.

His main knocks are "explosiveness" & "elite speed" which is a load of garbage.

-Great size(6'3, 215)
-Solid speed/40(4.47 pro day, 4.57 combine)
-Executed a pro style offense under Bill O'Brien
-Shows he can execute the entire route tree
-Great, Strong hands
-Exceptional leaping ability(42" VJ)
-Locates ball & plucks at high point
-11' Broad Jump
-Deceptive acceleration/sharp cuts on breaks
-Physical & shows strength after the catch as a ball carrier and looks to gain those extra yards.(Demaryius Thomas like, especially on screens)
- possession & big play target
-Progressed each year despite injuries/new coach/new qb
-shows he's knowledgeable & easy task transitioning to nfl playbook.
-pro ready
-no off the field issues

Screams no.1 WR..

Weaknesses are all correctable/coachable issues

-tighten footwork on breaks at times
-sell patterns better
-elite speed

Just my analysis...SP will get star quality out of him, no doubt in my mind.

Geesh even ppl are knit pickin at moncrief for "elite speed" and "straight line speed" ...didnt he run like a 4.3 40? Ppl are always gonna find somethin to complain about & its sad. Moncrief, robinson, & matthews will all be solid pros. Bryants one year of production is a little concerning but thats expected being behind watkins/hopkins. But why couldnt he earn more reps? Thats something to watch...More of a over the top kind of guy, But i love him. But the three previously mentioned are more of a priority with me.

I understand tho jeanpierre we all have our guys, i respect that. & i would trust ryan shazier with rob ryan anyday. Our coaches get the best out of their guys...all the talent is there for shazier & definitely shows it on tape and workout. 4.39 40 is just ridiculous...jack of all trades at that. Can cover with the best, fill gaps/stuff run holes & rush the passer. Exactly what we have been screaming for all these years & what we need in a LB . I like these guys.
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Old 05-03-2014, 05:07 PM   #302
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what you did not like my all offense draft? had to throw a big DB in there some where to develop

AUSTIN and JIMMY in a dbl TE set?

Two tall sure handed WR

WR and RB that both run sub 4.4 and handle our return work also?

A center that excels at pass blocking and we can work on the run blocking as we go.

actual could you imagine Mel Kipper and the rest of the Draft guru trying to figure that draft out?
Lol no i did...wouldnt complain one bit if it actually happened that way. I likey. That double te set would be painful for lb's/S. Solid my man...
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Old 05-03-2014, 05:10 PM   #303
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TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington ? whats the issue here? I think he will bounce back to his 2013 form. a bit of gamble in the second but no worse of a gamble than any od the CB in that area of the draft. I do not condemn a person for 1 DWI.

If you want a safe pick it is Bucannon.
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Old 05-03-2014, 06:14 PM   #304
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Sarik, you want length?!?

Check out this guy...

FS Lonnie Ballentine, Memphis, Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 225 lbs...

Measurables: 40yd Dash - 4.4 sec! ; Bench Press (225lbs) - 18 reps; Vertical - 38 inches!

Personal: 20 years old; MARRIED, with two (2) children - so, yeah, he's got REAL motivation...

Currently projects as a sixth rounder?!? Yeah, right...
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Old 05-03-2014, 06:22 PM   #305
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Currently projects as a sixth rounder?!? Yeah, right...
with a bullet
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Sarik, you want length?!?

Check out this guy...

FS Lonnie Ballentine, Memphis, Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 225 lbs...

Measurables: 40yd Dash - 4.4 sec! ; Bench Press (225lbs) - 18 reps; Vertical - 38 inches!

Personal: 20 years old; MARRIED, with two (2) children - so, yeah, he's got REAL motivation...

Currently projects as a sixth rounder?!? Yeah, right...
Hmmm...very intriguing. Not just length but speed & strength as well from what your post says!! I like the family man part as well. Niiice...i'll look into some tape now. Thanks bud!
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Hmmm...very intriguing. Not just length but speed & strength as well from what your post says!! I like the family man part as well. Niiice...i'll look into some tape now. Thanks bud!
Only concern of some scouts is that Lonnie Ballentine is more of a "track" type rather than a football type, kindly referred to as a Renaldo Nehemiah scenario...Still I'm pulling for the guy to get it right for himself and his new fans...
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Lots of big name players falling in some of the online mocks now.

I know this wont happen,but i would be delighted if it did,trade down a couple of times obviously and end up with a load of 3/4/5 rounders.If the players fell as they did on here what a draft it would be


Round 2 Pick 8 (MINN): Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss

Round 3 Pick 8 (MINN): Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State

Round 3 Pick 20 (ARI): David Yankey, OG, Stanford

Round 3 Pick 27: Christian Jones, ILB, Florida State

Round 4 Pick 8 (MINN): Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson

Round 4 Pick 9 (BUF): Bryan Stork, C, Florida State

Round 4 Pick 20 (ARI): Russell Bodine, OG, North Carolina

Round 4 Pick 26: Brandon Thomas, OG, Clemson

Round 5 Pick 29: Howard Jones, OLB, Shepherd

Round 6 Pick 12 (STL): Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty

Round 6 Pick 26: Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma

Round 7 Pick 11 (STL): Cornelius Lucas, OT, Kansas State

Round 7 Pick 26 (STL): Wesley Johnson, OT, Vanderbilt


The Offensive line would be loaded with quality young backups and future starters both inside and possibly at tackle too.

The receivers would be completely reset.
Let Benjamin back up Colston and spot start for him this year and new number 1 option in Moncrief.

Redshirt Colvin and Thomas for a year and its like having a pair of 2-3rd rounders in addition to next years draft.



Ah well i can dream
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Old 05-06-2014, 08:08 PM   #309
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27 S DEONE BUCANNON WASHINGTON STATE

Pairing Byrd and Deone together would give the saints two of the best ball hawking safeties in team history. Add in Kenny the head hunter and Wild man Bush and i do not not want to hear a thing about the safety position for the next couple of years

58 LB CHRISTIAN JONES FLORIDA STATE

I still say he is a steal even here. But sometimes you need to reach in order to make the rest of the draft to fall into place.

91 TE C.J. FIEDOROWICZ IOWA

Jimmy gets his wish. 10 mill next year as his TE duties are taken over by a true TE. Plus he can really catch as well as block. He can be groomed by Watson. who is a FA in 2016 and has a cap hit of 1.9 million and dead money of 400,000 in 2015. It gives you some cap flex down the road. Even so Watson and CJ in a dbl TE set with Jimmy flanked out in a single back set would be a nightmare. All three can catch. while two are excellent blockers

126 C TYLER LARSEN UTAH STATE

I just keep coming back to him as the best option after the top OC are off the board. He did extremely well at the senior bowl so small school competition bit was answered and he blew away the scouts knocks on him at the combine. There is a home for him in the NFL at OC or OG.

167 CB WALT AIKENS LIBERTY

Like Carlson there is something about the kid that makes me keep going back to him. solid numbers nothing flashy but his tapes and the way he stepped up at the senior bowl screams attitude.

169 RB DE'ANTHONY THOMAS OREGON

He tiny yes he is quick yes. now imagine trying to tackle the most dynamic kick returner in college in 2013. Plus SP will find a way to get him in this offense

202 OT JUSTIN BRITT MISSOURI

Every team need a swiss army knife on the OL. That is what this kid is. OT/OG/LS. Plus he looks to need some coaching up and you never know what he he might become.

I am done. yeah right

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Hagan, you forgot the kicker dammit!
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