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saintswhodi 11-09-2004 09:11 AM

Okay, I am really ticked now!!!!!
 
How can Dave Wannstedt, a guy who has a winning record with his current club and had his world implode around him in the offseason be asked to resign and do it, and we can't get rid of Haslett? Dave Wannstedt has been 10-6 in arguably the toughest division in football the past couple of seasons and he gets the boot? And Haslett doesn't? Where is the justice in this world? How is this even possible? Ron Zook has winning seasons at florida and he has to go? But as our team gets worse and worse not only year after year, game after game, Haslett gets to stay? There are no words...............................

[Edited on 11/9/2004 by Halo]

BlackandBlue 11-09-2004 09:22 AM

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One question. If Haslett were to be fired today, who would we have as our head coach?

saintswhodi 11-09-2004 09:25 AM

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I don\'t care if it was a monkey flinging dung at a blackboard with plays and assignments on it, get rid of Haslett!! He is a waste. Players do not wanna play for him or his staff. Maybe we can get that chicken that Homer had that presses the keys on the keyboard in that episode of the Simpsons where he got really fat and was working from home. Can\'t be much worse than what we are currently seeing.

saintswhodi 11-09-2004 09:27 AM

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Of course if you are serious, I don\'t really care who helps them to the second pick in the draft, as long as I know a change is DEFINITE this off season and not just probable. If Haslett is fired now, there is no chance for the team to luck up and win a couple of games and he keep his job. That\'s what I want, for there to be no doubt.

BlackandBlue 11-09-2004 09:29 AM

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John Clayton said on the radio this morning that, with Wannstedt stepping down, Haslett tops the list of coaches most likely to be fired, but it won\'t happen until after the season is over, nor should it.

saintswhodi 11-09-2004 09:44 AM

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I will have to disagree then. I am more of a show me the sure thing type of guy. If Haslett is fired now, then I am sure he won\'t be back next year and a couple of lucky bounces of the pig skin won\'t have me sitting through another year of this clown.

4saintspirit 11-09-2004 09:45 AM

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If we could find a head coach now I would say Haslett should be fired now. That way the new coach would at least have an opportunity to get to know the players giving him a head start over next year. Even if we do not find one we should dump him. Maybe that would let the players know that this team is serious about winning -- it would certainly let the fans know

AJB4AIR 11-09-2004 09:49 AM

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I read Haslett\'s news conference and he still is taking no blame, all I hear is the offense this, defense that. No taking blame on himself or coaches

BlackandBlue 11-09-2004 09:54 AM

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You people do realize that negotiating a coaching contract with a coordinator from another team during the season is considered tampering and brings with it a heavy fine in both money and draft picks, correct?


[Edited on 9/11/2004 by BlackandBlue]

saintswhodi 11-09-2004 09:59 AM

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I never said we should do that BNB, as I know that is against the rules. But during the 1st week of the playoffs, of which we obviously have no shot, you are allowed to talk to coordinators of other teams. Having our coaching job vacant creates a clear indication to anyone we talk to the team is serious. And we all know though it is against the rules for teams to talk to opposing coordinators during the season, feelers are put out to gage a coordinator or other coach\'s interest. Let\'s not be naive. Hell, Parcells talked to the Jets the night before the Patriots\' Superbowl game here in New Orleans and it is common knowledge now. Fire Haslett. No more *****-footing around.

WhoDat 11-09-2004 10:02 AM

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Yes... oh, you were tallking to those other guys... oops. ;)

BlackandBlue 11-09-2004 10:17 AM

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But during the 1st week of the playoffs, of which we obviously have no shot, you are allowed to talk to coordinators of other teams.
Unless they are still in the playoffs, read everyone\'s wet dream Crennel.

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And we all know though it is against the rules for teams to talk to opposing coordinators during the season
Sometimes I wonder. What kills me is that, after 2000 when we won our first playoff game, fans were screaming for Benson to give Haslett a contract extension. And Benson gave the fans what they wanted. Now, Benson has no vision, no care, and only cares about his money. With all the outrage that has come forth from the fans over the past two years, there is not a doubt in my mind that Haslett will be replaced after the end of the season, regardless of what happens from here on out. But by all means, grab your torches and pitchforks.


Danno 11-09-2004 10:26 AM

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John Clayton said on the radio this morning that, with Wannstedt stepping down, Haslett tops the list of coaches most likely to be fired, but it won\'t happen until after the season is over, nor should it.
I\'d like to point out that future coaches will be watching how Benson handles this. To fly off the handle and fire Jim mid-season and embarrass him publicly screams of a Mickey-mouse organization. Firing him now gains us nothing but petty vengence for ripping our stinkin hearts out. Of course, that doesn\'t sound so bad to me, but cooler heads usually prevail. I don\'t have a problem waiting until the end of the season. You also make him work for his money instead of letting him fish and play golf on our dime while Venturi takes over.

saintswhodi 11-09-2004 10:33 AM

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Unless they are still in the playoffs, read everyone\'s wet dream Crennel.
You must have missed the new rules BNB. during the wild card round of the playoffs, coordinators are allowed to interview with other teams. This rule was created specifically cause some coaches in the league felt like they could not wait on Crennel and Weiss to be done with the playoffs to hire a coach last year and went in other directions after only interviewing them once. They extened the rule from one week to two meaning a coordinator can interview with a team more than once. In this window we would have ample opportunity to visit with Crennel and get something worked out, before the playoffs are over.

BlackandBlue 11-09-2004 10:38 AM

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Got link?

Not that I don\'t trust you, but it makes no sense to me for a coordinator, who coaches a team in that is in the playoffs, to be running around doing interviews, when he should be concentrating on the upcoming playoff game.
I must not be the only one that doesn\'t know this rule, Clayton also said this morning that Al Davis was the only owner looney enough to wait until February to interview someone like Crennel.

turbo_dog 11-09-2004 10:41 AM

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I heard on the radio that Miami is interested in Charlie Weiss. Of course, people are still talking about Spurrier going there...

WhoDat 11-09-2004 11:42 AM

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What kills me is that, after 2000 when we won our first playoff game, fans were screaming for Benson to give Haslett a contract extension.
Really? I certainly didn\'t, but my memory isn\'t that great anymore. I don\'t remember a whole lot of people talking about giving him an extension. Sure, there were a lot of people talking abou thow great he was and how he was the next big thing... but I don\'t remember people calling for an extension... just like I remember people loving AB, until he started to as for money. Then a lot of people said whoa... But I guess I\'ll go get the pitch fork I used to go after AB a while back. ;)


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fly off the handle and fire Jim mid-season and embarrass him publicly screams of a Mickey-mouse organization.
Very interesting. Let\'s see what happens.

saintswhodi 11-09-2004 11:47 AM

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Here\'s your link BNB. Says playoff coaches with a first round bye can interview in the wild card round and all coaches are allowed to interview until the divisional round.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/6908387

BiggPoppaFro3 11-09-2004 11:51 AM

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OK..nobody here is letting Haz off the hook. Yes he should be fired, but doing it midseason is WAAAY counterproductive. He will go at the end of the year, but come on. To drop the guy now is calling the rest of the season a wash without even trying (not that we do anyway). Still, look at the chaos at Florida now. Miami may as well not show up anymore either. That means potential FAs will be looking the only selling point MIA can give -- a blockbuster of a coach.

We can\'t talk to anyone yet, but we will. We need to do it right. Start with getting a great GM. He can find the coach we need. Who do you want pulling the trigger -- Mueller or even Ron Wolf or Benson alone? (not that that is who we will get)

Besides, Wanny DID have it coming. How do you have that defense and an 1800 yard rusher, but not make the playoffs?

[Edited on 9/11/2004 by BiggPoppaFro3]

saintswhodi 11-09-2004 12:13 PM

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Besides, Wanny DID have it coming. How do you have that defense and an 1800 yard rusher, but not make the playoffs?
You play in a division with the Superbowl Champs and very competitive teams unlike the division of the 13-3 Chiefs(Oakland and San D picked 1-2 in the draft) stealing playoff spots. Also Texans and Jags weren\'t that good last year, hello Indy. And Pittsburgh and Cleveland weren\'t good either. Hello Baltimore.

BlackandBlue 11-09-2004 01:22 PM

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Thanks for the link and info. ;)

saintswhodi 11-09-2004 02:07 PM

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No prob BNB. That was last year\'s guidelines though. I found it in haste. They have extened the interview process another week in this year\'s policy so I think they can go into the divisional round now so coached like Weiss and Crennel won\'t miss their opportunities. It\'s a good policy, one I hope we take advantage of.

mutineer10 11-09-2004 11:02 PM

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I don\'t care if it was a monkey flinging dung at a blackboard with plays and assignments on it
:dancingmonkey:

Has anyone else noticed how often monkeys tossing feces is coming up in posts lately? Just an observation...

saintswhodi 11-10-2004 08:56 AM

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Has anyone else noticed how often monkeys tossing feces is coming up in posts lately? Just an observation...
It\'s only because at this point, they couldn\'t be any worse.


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