Adam Schein: Drew Brees Isn't Elite
 

My list: Manning, Brees, Brady then Rodgers.

"Oftentimes, you will see Brees lumped in with Rodgers, Brady and Peyton. I don't think that's accurate. The 2012 campaign counts against Brees, as he struggled some without Sean Payton (posting an NFL-high 19 interceptions) and New Orleans missed the playoffs. But his numbers, wins and feel put him at this worthy slot. I actually think Brees is in his own category -- right after the elite trio and right before Roethlisberger."

QB factions: From elite to unknown, and everything in between - NFL.com

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And I think your shirt is goofy.

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This is your brain on drugs...

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67 picks over the last 4 years is bad.

Fourth sounds about right.

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161 TDs and 20,435 passing yards. Fourth may be right, but lumping him with Big Ben is silly. His first SB he played like garbage and the TD was thrown by a WR.

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Brees threw 19 interceptions in 2012 but he also threw 43 TDs. He threw for over 5000 yds without his head coach and under the guidance of an interim to the interim head coach who was also out for a half season. The GM was missing for about half a season also. Rodgers spent this year injured and Peyton Manning just lost his second out of three Super Bowls he has played in. Do we not count Peyton's post season failures or Rodgers' injuries but we count Drew's one "bad" season against him in determining if he is elite? Ask any team not named Seahawks, Patriots, or Broncos if they want to trade their QB for Drew and let's see how many of them suddenly think he is elite. Fourth place my sweet behind!

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Or fatty lice, or Joe Fluccko or Andrew Luck, or Scum Newton, or Punkernick.

None would trade for him, so at best he's top 10.

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Remember opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one and they're mostly full of mess.

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First ballot hall of famer.. The only quarterbacks I might consider taking ahead of him are Luck, Wilson, and Brady. Operative word is "MIGHT".

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This guy is a bag. Im not being a homer either. I give credit where credit is due with other QB's as well. Everyone has their own opinion on different things, its just his is about as well taken as a bowl of sh!tty toilet water.

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Well then that statement shows how wrong you are Adam Schein.

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I listen to Adam Schein quite a bit on XM and don't always agree with his commentary but his assessment of where he ranks Brees is fair.

No biggie.

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Brees is Elite ... But he's not entirely elite ... He disappears on the road. Oh and I've never seen us win when down a couple TDs either... Brady Manning and Rodgers have erased 28 point deficits like a knife through butter ... Would like to see Brees do it ...

Brees also does most of his damage after the game is well in the bag... But when we need a score most we get absolutely nothing ( In seattles 30 8 ) times only come away with 15 points ... We need him to find that next gear

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Shock jock writing style. Give an opinion that can't be quantified, give lame reasoning, wait for response. Great way to get noticed.

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As many 5000+ yard seasons as all other NFL QB's combined, including Brady, Manning and Rogers, and he needs to find another gear?

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BINGO!

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As if the offseason didn't suck enough....

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You list three teams that wouldn't trade for him yet take issue he's rated fourth?

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I just love those comebacks against nfl "elite" teams (cleveland, tampa, buffalo, san diego...)

Where was super bowl comeback? I guess even the "best ever" had some problems against that seattle D.


No, thanks. I like the way we play. There are few bad games in each season, but we dominate weaker oponents (no need for comeback when you are up 20 pts by halftime) and force true elite teams to bring their A game if they wanna have a shot against us.

Brees is fine. He will have to downgrade his game for better looking comeback section in CV.

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Off season blows

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The year we won the Super Bowl he was the best QB in the NFL. That following year, same thing. He's slipped to fourth, but I could argue he and Peyton are tied for 3rd regardless of the records broken this year.

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And he is elite. The stats back it up. Favre threw more interceptions then anybody to ever play and he was considered elite all the way until we ended his career.

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Offseason makes people say stupid things

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What I've noticed in the last 2 years is we usually start slow, and really haven't been dominate, you can blame it on a bad 2012 D or 2013 O that struggled but alot of yards by Brees has come from playing from behind when we had to go with the passing game and I really can't recall (which I may be wrong) that come from behind wins have been about null. I believe Brees window is nearly ending, I love the guy but I refuse to wear rose colored glasses on any player we have, Payton and Brees make a good duo but if you take away our 2013 D I think we would not even made the playoffs this season. Manning and Brady have the knack to come from behind and execute better than Brees does. The 2011 season is when I feel Brees looked the best he has ever looked, the best QB. in the NFL in my opionion but not now. I truely believe he was elite then, but as of right now I don't see it. Can he return to form, maybe but what I do know is he is the best thing going for the Saints at this point in time until he isn't.

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I never understood why interceptions bring down a QB's status so much. I remember Aaron Rodgers getting MVP over Drew all because Drew had more interceptions that year...nevermind that Drew smoked him in every other category. I dont care if a QB throws 3 picks a game-if he is putting up 30+ points a game and having CONSISTENT 5000 yd. seasons,he is elite in my book. Drew may not be the best,but he is definitely elite.

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You were all trolled by Adam Schein.

<finger snap>

Come out of it!

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One of the teams I listed, the Seahawks, have a second year QB who may or may not become elite. I suspect that they would trade for him, too, if they weren't coming off a Super Bowl win. So, yes, I think he deserves to be ranked higher. Also, I think the Broncos, led by Manning, should come under the same scrutiny that Brees has come under; Peyton has post season issues and is still considered elite while Brees has "a bad" 2012 season and the writer considers him unworthy of being elite. Remember, one of the Super Bowls Manning lost was to the Saints and in the one he won, I believe he threw for 239 yards; easily just a first half for Brees. Just saying, apply the same leeway to all of the guys discussed and Brees is elite, too.

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The world elite is thrown around too much these days.
Remember when we had just "good" football players?

In another 5-10 years we'll have Super Elite....

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Farve is a gunslinger... I liked that!
Drew is just alot more accurate but has the same nature to make things happen.

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i really feel it a waste of time to talk about a statement like this. Drew is Hall bound so why even say something like this

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This is ridiculous. :roll:

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For the record Adam Schein is a whiny, nasally, little b1tch and just because he sits between great NFL QBs on a radio show he has come to the conclusion that he has a clue about QBs.

While he may be somewhat correct... See previous statement.

Adam Schein: Drew Brees Isn't Elite
 

I have no idea who Adam Schein is and this topic is the first time I've ever heard his name... I guess what I'm trying to say is that I couldn't care less.

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I'm amazed at how butt hurt some of you are about this. Its not like he said Brees sucks. They have him as the 4th best QB in the league, which is about right.

Personally I thought Brees played absolutely awful in several games this year. Much more than in years past.

Its a QB power ranking and some of ya'll are taking it way way too seriously.

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Disagree. On a neutral field Drew is better than Brady or Rodgers. Who are both better than the rest of the starters in the league. The next group is Rothlishamburger, Stafford and Ryan. Then the young guns are Lucky, Wilson, Kaepersnicker and FigNewton who will replace the lists above one day.

So a guy with a national stage got it wrong. We must right it.

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Disagree, not the Drew Brees I saw this year.

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Brees was 2nd in yardage, and completion percentage (higher than Rodgers). Oh, and 2nd in TDs and ypg. But he did get sacked 37 times. I guess we could stretch it and call that all his fault.

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I have to agree with you. Some games he played were far from the word "Elite".

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Drew being 4th is correct. Drew being = to Rapestburger kills all of his credibility.