we have a chance
 

we have an outside chance

we have a chance
 

You guys are setting yourselves up for a huge HUGE letdown. It\'s as if ya\'ll haven\'t watched this team the last few years. We had an \"outside\" chance when we were 7-2 or whatever a couple of years ago, and 7-4 the year after that. We still didn\'t score in the first quarter today, special teams bailed us out. Offense did nothing for 3 quarters. Two weeks in a row scrub teams have let us hang around until the 4th, when we all know it is Brooks stat time, and he plays his best ball for whatever reason. That is not a formula for success. Just take the wins with a grain of salt or there will be a lot more heartache for you on the final day of the seaon when we evntually lay the egg we are famous for.

we have a chance
 

Outside? We\'re 6-8, we own a tie-breaker with the Lambs. We should be in the last WC spot no?

I agree totally Whoodi, but I\'m rooting again. Haslett ain\'t going anywhere, might as well hope for the playoffs. Our draft position and dreams of a coaching change are shot anyway...

we have a chance
 

That hurts me more than anything else. Haslett stays, no high draft pick. 7-9 or 8-8 again, Haslett points at the late surge and convinces Benson Venturi and McCarthy can still coach. We see the same thing next year. Sorry, can\'t do it. When I doubted weeks ago, I was told \"No matter what happens, Haslett is gone this year anyway.\" Now he isn\'t. So NOTHING is certain to improve for this team next year. Nothing at all. Who is gonna buy tickets to see these coaches out there again next year?

we have a chance
 

Look I agree with everybody. After all - it is the time of goodwill :cool:

But it is frightening. Has-been is going to stay. So if we have to live with that; all we can pray for is some good cheer with the Saints winning.

Look at what is left:

If the Saints win out; i.e against dem Dirty Birds and at the Poncers - we are 8-8. Does that have a good ring to it? \"Good things come to those who are 8 and 8\". Remember that was last said. I do!

The 2 challengers (LOL!) are:
dem Sheep - home to the Eagles (ouch!) and to the Jets (ouch again!)
the Poncers - at the Bucking Ears; and well you know that the other game.

That\'s it folks. I figure - 2 wins and we are in.

\"setting myself up for a HUGH letdown\". Are you kidding me. Do you know how much pain I have in my heart following the Saints. I do not know how I can be of more hurt.

As Stevie Wonder said: \"You very soon in your mind realize that it\'s not just An ordinary pain in your heart\"

we have a chance
 

No, we\'re one game out, upon further review... Looks like:

Philly 13-1
ATL 11-3
GB 8-6
Seattle 7-7
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Min 8-6
Car 6-8

NO 6-8
Rams 6-8

Carolina is @ TB and then has us at home
We\'ve got ATL and then we\'re at Carolina
The Lambs have Philly and the Jets. I think they\'re out of it.

The only way we go is to win out. We are 1-3 in division and 4-6 in conference. Carolina is 2-2 in div and 5-5 in conference.

Thus, if we lose to ATL and Car beats the Bucs, but then we beat Car, the Panthers still go to the playoffs b/c we\'re split head to head and after that it goes to div, conference records.

we have a chance
 

:( bye bye Derrick Johnson :D hello Ahmed Brooks

Washinton lose out!!!!!!!!

[Edited on 20/12/2004 by bayouking318]

we have a chance
 

If y\'all have too much time; refer to:
http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers.

But I can tell you now; it aint going to the coin toss :thumbsup:

we have a chance
 

No. there are 3 teams at 6-8: New Orleans, Carolina, and St. Louis. In this case you
eliminate all but the top team in each division. By our loss to the Panthers, we\'d lose out there. Then the panthers beat the Rams.

So Carolina is still the wild card. But we get them the last week of the season.

That\'s right. The interesting question is who has control of our destiny for that 6th slot now? The Saints have beaten the Rams, and get Carolina again, I think of the three that the Saints are now in the control of that slot. If the Saints win out, then they finish 8-8 and beat Carolina. They have the head to head over the Rams, so if both end up 8-8, then the Saints get the nod.

Going 6-0 in help games this weekend has put them in the drivers seat. Losses by Carolina, Dallas, Detroit, TB, St. Louis, and GB coupled with a win by Philly, means that Atlanta is locked into the 2nd seed, with no chance of moving up or down. So smart money says they\'ll rest their starters in prep for the divisional playoff.

So the help game next week is the TB/Carolina game. We want TB to win next week.

SFIAH

we have a chance
 

It also means we have to win 4 in a four. And 2 in a row have been hard to come by this year :( . But we got a chance. I mean, we can beat Atlanta and Carolina. Anything\'s possible. But right now I\'mma just enjoy this win and hope for another victory next weekend.

we have a chance
 

From NFL.com: (Thanks UK)

TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.


TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.
1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.


Bottom line - we have to win out to go.