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Bryan Bennett, QB, Southeastern Louisiana
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 205 pounds

Buzz: Bennett's name should be familiar to fans, especially to those who follow the Pac-12: He was the quarterback Marcus Mariota beat out to earn the starting job at Oregon in 2012. Bennett was Mariota's backup that fall before transferring to Southeastern Louisiana last season. The junior threw for 3,165 yards and 21 touchdowns and rushed for 1,046 yards and 16 touchdowns (a single-season school record) for the Lions last fall. Bennett, who led the Lions to the quarterfinals of the FCS playoffs, was the Southland Conference Player of the Year. Scouts will be looking to see if he can improve his accuracy this fall; he completed 61 percent of his passes last season.

Bryan Bennett, 6-3, 210, QB, Southeastern Louisiana U, 2014 Highlights - YouTube

Quinn Epperly, QB, Princeton
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 220 pounds

Buzz: Epperly is the reigning Ivy League Offensive Player of the Year and won the award in his first full season as the starter. Epperly completed 68 percent of his passes and threw for 2,137 yards and 25 TDs (against just three interceptions) last season; he also ran for 570 yards and 18 TDs in 10 games. Epperly, who is left-handed, accounted for at least three touchdowns in each of the Tigers' last nine games in 2013 and completed an NCAA-record 29 consecutive passes in a win over Cornell. Princeton scored 50 points five times last season; the Tigers had scored 50 points five times in previous 48 seasons.

Jake Kumerow, WR, Wisconsin-Whitewater
Particulars: 6-foot-5, 195 pounds

Buzz: Kumerow has good size and good hands and is a deep threat for the Warhawks, the reigning Division III national champions. He also is the son of former NFL first-round pick Eric Kumerow; the nephew of former NFL first-rounder John Bosa; and the cousin of Ohio State star sophomore defensive end Joey Bosa. Jake Kumerow began his career at Illinois but transferred to Division III Wisconsin-Whitewater before the 2012 season. Last season, Kumerow had 77 catches for 1,331 yards (17.3 yards per reception) and 19 TDs; he had six games with multiple TD receptions and had five 100-yard games, including a 103-yard, two-touchdown performance in a 52-14 rout of Mount Union (Ohio) in the Division III title game.

Cole Manhart, OT, Nebraska-Kearney
Particulars: 6-foot-6, 300 pounds

Buzz: Manhart will be a three-year starter at left tackle for the Lopers, a Division II program. Manhart is big, strong -- he can squat 500 pounds -- and plays with a mean streak, but he's also nimble enough to play H-back in what Nebraska-Kearney calls its "hammer package." Manhart was one of four Mid-America Intercollegiate Athletics Association players named a first-team All-American by the American Football Coaches Association last season; two of the other first-team members -- Pittsburg State wide receiver John Brown and Lindenwood cornerback Pierre Desir -- were taken in the 2014 NFL Draft. Manhart was the only unanimous selection on last season's All-MIAA first team.

MyCole Pruitt, TE, Southern Illinois
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 250 pounds

Buzz: He will be a four-year starter for the Salukis and has been remarkably consistent, catching between 43 and 48 passes for 562 to 601 yards in each of the past three seasons. His touchdown total has been consistent, too, going from three in 2011 to four in 2012 to five last season. He was ranked third nationally in receptions (48) among tight ends in the FCS last season despite missing two games with a broken leg. He plays in a run-oriented offense and is a solid blocker. He also has H-back potential at the next level.

Kevin Rodgers, QB, Henderson State
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 215 pounds

Buzz: Rodgers has been a finalist for the Harlon Hill Trophy -- which goes to the top player in Division II -- in each of the past two seasons. Last season, he threw for 4,807 yards with 40 TDs and 12 picks, and completed 68.95 percent of his passes. He threw for 4,002 yards and 41 TDs in 2012. He has thrown for at least 400 yards nine times in the past two seasons and has 18 300-yard games in that span. Rodgers, who already has graduated and is working on his MBA, holds school records for passing yards, touchdown passes and completions. Fans will get a chance to see Rodgers on the CBS Sports Network on Sept. 18, when Henderson State (which is located in Arkadelphia, Arkansas) plays host to Southeastern Oklahoma.

De'Ante "Pop" Saunders, CB, Tennessee State
Particulars: 5-foot-11, 200 pounds

Buzz: Saunders was a two-year starter at safety at Florida before he was kicked off the team late in the 2012 season. He had four interceptions, 39 tackles and nine pass breakups for Tennessee State last season as a cornerback, but his best pro position might be safety. Saunders -- who started as a true freshman at Florida -- lacks elite speed, but he has great instincts, is active in run support and can lay the lumber. Saunders has NFL talent, but red flags are flying with regard to his character.

Jaquiski Tartt, SS, Samford
Particulars: 6-foot-1, 218 pounds

Buzz: Tartt has good size and is extremely active in run support; he also runs well for his size (he has been clocked as fast as 4.46 in the 40). He had 98 tackles last season for the Bulldogs -- the year the team won the Southern Conference. He also had one interception, which he returned for a score, and nine pass breakups. Tartt has made 192 tackles and scored three defensive touchdowns in the past two seasons. The safety only played one season of high school football in Mobile, Alabama.

Lynden Trail, OLB, Norfolk State
Particulars: 6-foot-7, 260 pounds

Buzz: Trail is an intriguing prospect because of his size, production (he had 8.5 sacks and 94 tackles last season) and background (he began his college career at Florida and was considered one of the nation's top high school defensive ends at powerhouse Miami Washington). He also had 12.5 tackles for loss, five forced fumbles, two blocked kicks, 10 quarterback hurries and eight pass breakups last season. He has 14.5 sacks and 29.5 tackles for loss in two seasons with the Spartans. Trail has gained more than 40 pounds since graduating from high school. Of note: He didn't play at all at Florida -- he redshirted as a true freshman in 2010 and did not seeing any time in 2011 before deciding to move on. But as he has gained weight, he has made big strides on the field. His size and pass-rush skills are notable.

Charles Tuaau, DT, Texas A&M-Commerce
Particulars: 6-foot-5, 310 pounds

Buzz: Tuaau, a native of Hawaii, made a huge impact in his first season with the Division II Lions after transferring from a California junior college; he had 12.5 sacks and 25.5 tackles for loss -- staggering numbers for a nose tackle -- in garnering Lone Star Athletic Conference Defensive Player of the Year honors last fall. Tuaau signed with Hawaii out of high school but ended up at Pasadena City College in 2011. He played for Riverside community college in 2012 then signed with Oregon State in February 2013. But he didn't meet OSU's academic requirements and ended up at Texas A&M-Commerce (known as East Texas State until 1996), which is located in a town of population 9,000 about an hour northeast of downtown Dallas. His disruptive nature will intrigue NFL scouts.

Zach Wagenmann, DE, Montana
Particulars: 6-foot-3, 250 pounds

Buzz: Wagenmann is easy to spot when you watch a Grizzlies game on TV -- he's the guy whose long blond locks are flowing out of his helmet when he is running down opposing quarterbacks. He will be a three-year starter for one of the best FCS programs in the nation and has 20 sacks and 29.5 tackles for loss in his career. Wagenmann had 8.5 sacks, 64 tackles and three forced fumbles last season. His pass-rush prowess is what has garnered notice from scouts. He didn't get serious about football until he was a junior in high school, instead concentrating on basketball.

Xavier Williams, DT, Northern Iowa
Particulars: 6-foot-4, 311 pounds

Buzz: Williams is big, physical and active. The then-junior had 74 tackles last season to go with 5.5 sacks and 12 tackles for loss; he also blocked five kicks in the 2012 season, one of which occurred against Wisconsin. Williams is a former high school wrestler who does a good job with leverage considering his height.

Julian Wilson – Cornerback – OU – Julian Wilson is a hard hitting machine. Plays press coverage well, but isn’t quite up to par in zone coverage. Lacks fluid ability in the hips and doesn’t turn that well and could use a bit of speed.

Julian Wilson's hard hit! - YouTube

Kyshoen Jarrett – Safety – Virginia Tech – Let’s take the opposite approach with Jarrett here. Kyshoen is a bit on the smaller side at 5’11 191 lbs, but has shown tremendous ability in games before. His main issue is inconsistencies.

Jarrett absolutely destroyed Ohio St when they played them in 2014, but vanished against lesser teams like Pitt

Marcus Rush – 3-4 OLB – Michigan st – Marcus is also on the smaller side for his position at 6’3 250 lbs, but has been very consistent on the field. Rush also got very solid reviews for doing drills very well at his Pro Day the other day as well. I think there is a strong chance Rush does get drafted because of his 10.5 tackles for loss and 7.5 sacks.

Austin Hill – WR – Arizona – The 6’3 212 lbs Austin Hill tore up the Pac-12 his sophomore year in 2012. 2013 he tore his ACL and never looked the same in his senior year. You saw glimpses in games of his original ability that at one point had scouts ranking him as their #1 WR prospect.

I think Hill goes undrafted and I also think Chip Kelly will remember when Hill put up 81 Receptions, 1364 yards and 11 TDs in Chip’s final year in the Pac-12.
Austin Hill Highlight Reel - Biletnikoff Nominee - YouTube

George Farmer – WR – USC – George Farmer was a highly recruited high-schooler who, due to injuries, never lived up to his potential. I think he should of returned to school for his senior year in an attempt to build some sort of a draft stock, but he decided to enter the NFL regardless. The kid does have some serious potential though.

Kaelin Clay – WR – Utah – Anybody remember when DeSean Jackson fumbled the ball going into the endzone against the Cowboys while showboating? Clay apparently does as he did the exact same thing against Oregon this past year that the Ducks returned for a TD.

Clay has other similarities to Jackson on the field as well. Only knows one route coming out of college (streak) is extremely explosive with the ball in his hands, and can make defenders miss in open field. Clay isn’t as fast as Jackson though, ran only a 4.51 at the combine, but on the field those numbers don’t translate.

He seems much faster on the field. At 5’10 and testing poorly at the combine, there is a very real chance Clay goes undrafted and could become the deep threat rotation the Eagles desperately need.

er,maybe not
Kaelin Clay drops ball before scoring touchdown - YouTube

The Draftable Prospects:

Vernon Johnson, Texas A&M Commerce (6'0", 196):

Johnson, a Fort Worth native, split three of his collegiate years between Midwestern State and junior colleges before settling in at Texas A&M-Commerce. In the past two season, he rewrote the school's record books, establishing single season team records in receiving yards (1,350) and catches (77), as well as a career record 25 receiving touchdowns. For his efforts, Johnson received All-American honors from the American Football Coaches Association and was named to Don Hansen's All-Region Second Team and BSN All-America's Second Team.

Johnson is a bit undersized, but he has long arms and large hands, consistently looking the ball into his hands. He isn't a burner, but accelerates quickly and plants firmly to burst out of his cuts. That said, he's a work in progress; Johnson ran mostly vertical and short catch-and-go routes in college, and will need to develop the rest of the route tree. Still, he was a playmaker at the previous level, destroying his Lone Star Conference competition - as can be seen in this compendium of highlights.

A final note: In his March 25 Cowboys mock draft, Rotoworld's Josh Norris has Johnson as the Cowboys' seventh-rounder.

Darius Davis, Henderson State (5'11", 212)

Darius, from Frisco, finished as Henderson State's all-time career receiving leader, amassing 2425 yards and 26 touchdowns. He is short and thickly built, drawing comparisons to Sterling Sharpe and Anquan Boldin. Like both former All Pros, he plays with physicality before and after the catch.

In addition, Davis displays strong hands with good body control. He has the quickness and technique to secure easy releases from press coverage. He flashes the potential the potential to become a top-flight route runner; Davis gets into routes quickly and has the balance and strength to run through contact.

Davis ran a disappointing 40-yard dash at his first pro day (4.64 at 226 pounds), prompting questions about his work ethic and desire. But he reportedly ran sub-4.5 in a follow-up workout after dropping seven pounds. For scouts, this correlated to the speed that was so evident on tape. Looking for a poor man's Dwayne Harris? Darius might just be the ticket.

You can check out his career highlights here.

The Camp Guys With NFL Bodies:

Darius White, Missouri (6'3", 205):

A native of Dallas, Texas, White attended Dunbar High School in Fort Worth and was listed as the nation's 6th-ranked wide receiver prospect, deciding to commit to the University of Texas. White appeared in 21 games for the Longhorns in 2010 and '11, catching six passes for 71 yards and returning a couple of kickoffs for a 24.0 average.

In December 2011, White elected to transfer from Texas to Missouri, and sat out the 2012 season per NCAA transfer rules before appearing as part of the Tigers' receiver rotation in 2013. For the Tigers, he caught 37 balls for 448 yards and five scores. Like his former Mizzou running mate L'Damian Washington, White has the long frame NFL teams love; unlike Washington, he lacks pro-caliber wheels (4.65 forty time).

Ross Apo, BYU (6'3", 212):

Apo's collegiate career started with promise but has faded into seeming obscurity. In 2011, after a medical redshirt year, he saw action in all 13 games, catching 34 passes for 453 yards and 9 touchdowns. The following campaign, he started all twelve of the Cougars' games, grabbing 31 passes for 311 yards and a score. After the season, he underwent surgery to repair a dislocated shoulder.

In 2013, he returned healthy, but was infrequently used, thanks to the emergence of Cody Hoffman and BYU's reliance on the running game, finishing with only 14 receptions, including a 52-yarder against Virginia, and 3 touchdowns. As a senior, Apo's stats fell off the proverbial cliff; he caught only one pass in twelve games. Apo has an NFL body and a solid skillset; scouts must figure our why his production declined so dramatically.

The Longshots:

Der'rikk Thompson, SMU (5'10", 186)

The Troup, TX product has had a remarkably consistent career for the Mustangs, hauling in at least 30 passes each of his four years, with a high in 2012 of 41 grabs for 535 yards and four scores. Thompson has solid hands, is explosive in and out of breaks and is a sound technician. Although he's certainly not a burner, he's able to create separation due to route running ability despite lacking ideal speed. Because of his size, he's a poor blocker and struggles to beat press coverage, which will negatively impact his pro success. Like Cole Beasley, another SMU product, Thompson projects best as a slot receiver at the nest level.

Sam Ajala, Fordham (6'1", 195):

Over his collegiate career, Ajala, from DeSoto, totaled 119 receptions for 1,958 yards and 16 touchdowns. In 2013, he enjoyed eight games with 100 or more receiving yards, scoring all 14 of his touchdowns in those contests. Ajala is an unpolished route runner, but boasts excellent speed, acceleration, vision and change of direction - all traits that could make him a dangerous return man. Indeed, one scout's pro comp for Ajala is Jacoby Jones.

David Porter, TCU (6'0", 205):

Porter, also from DeSoto, got off to a slow start for the Horned Frogs; in his first two seasons, he caught only nine passes for 127 yards. In 2013, however, he broke through, collecting 26 balls for 435 yards and five TDs. The following campaign, he added 39 catches for 392 yards and three scores (and also threw a 55-yard touchdown pass). Porter has adequate size and decent speed (4.5 forty), leaving scouts to question: where does he win?

Glenn Coleman, Florida International (6'2", 200):

Coleman was recruited by SEC schools before enrolling at FIU due to academic uncertainties. He got off to a slow start, catching only 15 balls for 136 yards and a score in his first two seasons. In 2012, he added 13 passes for 227 yards (a nifty 17.5 average). In 2013, FIU hired Ron Turner (Norv's brother) as their new head coach; after a redshirt season in 2013, Coleman capped off his career with a solid 2014, taking in 23 passes for 468 yards and three scores, including an 85-yarder.

DeMarcus Thompson, Abilene Christian (5'11", 172)

Yet another DeSoto product, Thompson played in nine games as a true freshman, finishing the season with nine catches for 160 yards and one touchdown. After missing the 2012 campaign, he bounced back in 2013, corralling 23 passes for 305 yards and three scores. In 2014, he hauled in 54 passes for 654 yards and two scores, adding five rushes for another 49 yards and a TD. Given his lack of size or speed (a painful 4.75 forty), its hard to imagine that Thompson will add his name to the Cowboys' growing list of DeMarcuses.

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Payton on not drafting WR: "We were able to hit a on couple FA WRs last year that we think are going to be god players." (S. Jones, Coleman)
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Going through dry runs, Payton said he could have saw the Saints taking a WR with a high pick
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Says they don't trade Kenny Stills if the Saints are confident in the players on the roster.
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browns drafted Ifo Ekpre-Olomu
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Really did not expect a rb.........nervous to see what UDFA's SP gets. He seems to be in love with small schools.
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McBride, Tre WR 6'0" 210 William & Mary 5.4
Goodley, Antwan WR 5'10" 209 Baylor 5.4
Davis, Titus WR 6'1" 196 Central Michigan 5.3
Anderson, Dres WR 6'1" 187 Utah 5.3
Lutman, Gavin WR 6'4" 201 Pittsburg St. (KS) 5.3

Leslie, Jordan 6'3" 215 BYU
Johnson, Vernon 6'1" 190 Texas A&M-Commerce 5.2
Harper, Josh 6'1 191 Fresno St.
Davis, Devante 6'3" 220 UNLV
Hall, Rannell 6'0" 198 Central Florida
Carter, DeAndre WR 5'10" 185 Sacramento St. 5.1
Collins, Ricky 6'0" 200 Texas A&M-Commerce 5.1
Hill, Austin 6'3" 212 Arizona

Anderson, Rory 'Busta' TE 6'5" 244 South Carolina
Saxton, Wes 6'3" 248 South Alabama
Christian, Gerald 6'3" 244 Louisville

Collins, La'el OT 6'4" 305 LSU 6.1
Finney, B.J. C 6'4" 318 Kansas St. 5.3
Crisp, Rob OT 6'7" 301 N.C. State 5.3
Miller, Darrian OG 6'5" 307 Kentucky 5.3
Matias, Josue OG 6'5" 309 Florida St. 5.3
Dismukes, Reese C 6'3" 296 Auburn 5.3
Hamilton, Chad C 6'2" 292 Coastal Carolina

Richardson, Bobby DT 6'3" 283 Indiana
Buckley, Quayshawne DT 6'3" 305 Idaho
Lott, Derrick DT 6'4" 314 Tennessee-Chattanooga
Walton, Leterrius DT 6'5" 319 Central Michigan
Trinca-Pasat, Louis DT 6'1" 290 Iowa
Irving, David DT 6'7" 272 Iowa St.
Wagenmann, Zack DE 6'3" 247 Montana
Walls, Davon DT 6'7" 290
Drew, Ray DE 6'5" 284 Georgia
Reed, Cedric DE 6'5" 269 Texas
Castleman, James NT 6'2" 300 Oklahoma St.
Eulls, Kaleb DT 6'4" 295 Mississippi St.
Slater, Tory DT 6'5" 290 West Georgia
Williams, DeShawn DT 6'1" 295 Clemson
Surratt, J.T. DT 6'1" 304 South Carolina
Trail, Lynden DE 6'7" 269 Norfolk St.
Williams, Xavier DT 6'2" 309 Northern Iowa

Jones, Taiwan ILB 6'3" 245 Michigan St.
Sylvestre, Junior OLB 6'0" 222 Toledo
Fua, Alani OLB 6'5" 238 BYU
Hull, Mike OLB 6'0" 237 Penn St.

Hill, Troy CB 5'10" 182 Oregon
Roberts, Darryl CB 6'0" 182 Marshall
Marshall, Nick CB 6'1" 207 Auburn
Callahan, Bryce CB 5'10" 185 Rice

Harris, Anthony SS 6'1" 183 Virginia
Drummond, Kurtis FS 6'1" 208 Michigan St.
Claiborne, Imoan S 5'11" 187 Northwestern St. (LA)
Celiscar, Donald S 5'11" 194 Western Michigan

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