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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; "They're better than we are; we're not good enough. We shouldn't be thinking about beating these 49ers; we shouldn't be talking about it, 'cause the Saints ain't good enough. And you guys shouldn't write about us being a playoff team ...

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Old 06-19-2015, 01:00 PM   #11
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"They're better than we are; we're not good enough. We shouldn't be thinking about beating these 49ers; we shouldn't be talking about it, 'cause the Saints ain't good enough. And you guys shouldn't write about us being a playoff team and all that bullstuff—that's malarkey. We ain't good enough to beat those guys and it was proven out there today. It's that simple. We're not good enough yet. We've got a long way to go; we've got a lot of work to do; we're close, and close don't mean ****. And you can put that on TV for me. I'm tired of coming close, and we're gonna work our asses off until we ain't close anymore, and it may take some time; we're gonna get it done; we aren't in there—we aren't good enough. They're better than us—black and white, simple, fact!

"Could've, would've, should've" is the difference in what I'm talking about! The good teams don't come in and say "Could've." They get it done! All right? It's that simple! I'm tired of saying "Could've, should've, would've." That's why we ain't good enough yet! 'Cause we're saying "Could've" and they ain't!

I'm pissed off right now. You bet your ass I am. I'm sick of coulda, woulda, shoulda, coming close, if only."

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Old 06-19-2015, 03:34 PM   #12
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A coach like Peyton would never go to a team like NO during that era. He could have had the Raiders job before NO and turned it down. The Saints also let a lot of great players go during that time and the feeling was more than mutual. Nobody wanted to play for them.
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Old 06-20-2015, 08:05 AM   #13
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Saints back then w Payton wouldve dominated.... IF the defense stayed the same. We lost so many games by close calls because of our offense, which btw was Carl Smith's fault more than Mora's. We had enough talent on offense to win those games that we lost. What was missing was the guts, bravado and playcallinxg from the sidelines.

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Old 06-20-2015, 09:38 AM   #14
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In those Mora year's it always seemed like the highly touted D flubbed it up in the big games.
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Old 06-20-2015, 09:48 PM   #15
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Great Defense but the offense was average.
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In those Mora year's it always seemed like the highly touted D flubbed it up in the big games.
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I think particular matchups/certain games could have had different outcomes, with different coaching, which would have made a difference....for example, the Vikings in the playoffs in '87 were really not that good of a team; a win there by the Saints could have resulted in a deeper playoff run that year and changed the landscape of the era....but it's asking a lot to have Payton dominate the '49ers at that time....a really tall order.

But one thing I have always enjoyed about Payton, is that he appreciated from Day ONE, that the road to success for the Saints depended on dominating the Falcons in their division....that beating or owning the Falcons is the key to the season, the lynch pin on which all the other success of the Saints team is built. If he had come in to the job in the Mora era, he might have studied the '49ers and found a way to be competitive with them, in terms of building the team.
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Old 06-21-2015, 08:18 PM   #18
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A sick Payton is a much better coach than Mora was on his best day. Also, the FO was handled in an entirely different way.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:21 AM   #19
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Then it would be What Coulda What Woulda What Shoulda! Here's a better "What If" What if Katrina hadn't happened? would it still be The New Orleans Saints and would the winning team still be hurting tomorrow? Discuss it among'st your selves! We'll be right back!
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:43 AM   #20
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What did Roger Craig/Steve Young say about the Saints? Something to the effect that if we had any sort of offense we would have won more than one SB with that defense. '89 - '91 Saints D + '09 - '11 Saints O would have been amazing to watch.
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