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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by |Mitch| We have a defense getting flagged every time they turn around and an offense who struggles to consistently move the ball; but we're worried about the kicker? With a team like this, a kicker is the ...

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Old 12-08-2015, 11:36 AM   #11
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Re: Did we have Cairo Santos at one point and cut him to stay with Hartley?

Originally Posted by |Mitch| View Post
We have a defense getting flagged every time they turn around and an offense who struggles to consistently move the ball; but we're worried about the kicker?
With a team like this, a kicker is the only major scoring threat. So, yeah.
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Roll with what we've got at kicker until this season is over and then reevaluate the position along with hundreds of other positions.lol
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:21 PM   #13
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Re: Did we have Cairo Santos at one point and cut him to stay with Hartley?

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Shayne Graham was 4 - 4 with a longest of 52 into the wind, right down the middle. Go figure.

Remember what KMajor told me last year on one of the threads about kicking below sea level. Also, these kickers expect us to score at home. The FGs have been missed at home, not on the road.
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:27 AM   #14
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Re: Did we have Cairo Santos at one point and cut him to stay with Hartley?

How exactly does this "below sea level" process work?
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Old 12-09-2015, 01:36 PM   #15
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Re: Did we have Cairo Santos at one point and cut him to stay with Hartley?

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Shayne Graham was 4 - 4 with a longest of 52 into the wind, right down the middle. Go figure.
Been saying it for a couple years now but some of you guys don't understand that the kicking is a 3 part process. Snap, hold and kick. I've seen too many bad or mis-handled snaps to keep blaming our kickers we sign. I look for a new
LS in camp next year if not one trying out every week the rest of this year.
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Old 12-09-2015, 03:09 PM   #16
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^That might be it, but I still believe the kickers mindsets are not on kicking FGs when we are threatening to score as the redzone FGs have been the misses.
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Re: Did we have Cairo Santos at one point and cut him to stay with Hartley?

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Remember what KMajor told me last year on one of the threads about kicking below sea level. Also, these kickers expect us to score at home. The FGs have been missed at home, not on the road.
Will, what the heck are you talking about?! Kicking below Sea level? I never stated that. I hate the kicking position & wish all NFL teams were required to go for two after ever score.

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