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SmashMouth 12-21-2015 08:46 AM

New Orleans Saints a potential landing spot for Robert Griffin III
 
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|Mitch| 12-21-2015 09:04 AM

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I'll believe it when I see it...

dam1953 12-21-2015 09:27 AM

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The Saints just spent millions, with millions more in future salary cap penalties, to get rid of locker room problems. Now we are supposed to think that they will step right back into the mess? That's like going to your doctor and asking if he can give you cancer.

Why don't we trade Sneed or Anthony or Breaux to the Browns for Manziel. Yea, that's the ticket.

CharityMike 12-21-2015 10:00 AM

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Why..why in the world would this even be a thought to anyone. What good is an option QB to Payton?? This seems sketchy.

burningmetal 12-21-2015 10:06 AM

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I guess if Robert Griffin were a bird, this WOULD be a good place to land and take a crap on.

I'm pretty sure he's not that kind of Griffin.

CharityMike 12-21-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 686101)
I guess if Robert Griffin were a bird, this WOULD be a good place to land and take a crap on.

I'm pretty sure he's not that kind of Griffin.

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

voodooido 12-21-2015 10:39 AM

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The kid has talent but not at 16 million a year. Under SP he may get out of the funk he has been in since 2013. I would like him to compete if he was around 5 million a year. Of course that is only if someone has a brain fart and we trade Drew. I would much rather have Hoyer or Fitzpatrick in a trade. Give me one of those 2 qbs with a rd 1 and 3 and I may be sold.

neugey 12-21-2015 11:11 AM

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Only if we also hire a spread coach and get Tebow to back him up. Way too risky, no NFL GM is going to down that road.

A better fit for RG3 is Tennessee to backup Mariota.

K Major 12-21-2015 11:18 AM

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He's broke up, battered & bruised. Didn't his own O line almost get him killed? Coach killer? Prima donna? I think he is a hit away from watching on the couch :couch:.

Pass.

Danno 12-21-2015 12:31 PM

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From what I've seen...

Grayson > Griffin

While its true I think Payton could help RG3, I don't think RG3 can help the Saints. He's just not the kind of QB that would excel under Payton.

It would be kinda fun to see what could happen though. Fig Newton went from bad passer to a pretty good pocket passer this year, so why couldn't RG3?

halloween 65 12-21-2015 12:37 PM

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Pass!!

Mardigras9 12-21-2015 01:11 PM

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I hope not, especially if Payton is still around next season.

Rugby Saint II 12-21-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 686119)
Pass!!

RGIII can't pass......so I'll pass on him. He's not cerebral enough for Sean Payton anyway.:dunce:

Supertek 12-21-2015 02:04 PM

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I am surprised this actually made a thread.

WillSaints81 12-21-2015 05:39 PM

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No, just no.

Danno 12-21-2015 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 686159)
No, just no.


I think the purpose is to discuss why or why not you think its a bad idea.

rezburna 12-21-2015 06:12 PM

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I believe it would be a great idea. His value is low. We'd get him cheap. Mobile QB's are where the NFL is heading. It's about time we changed up our offense, and with RG3 under center we would have to. I still believe in RG3.

Saint in Aus 12-21-2015 06:37 PM

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At the right price, I am fine with it. Unfortunately, we don't have a good track record of paying the right price, so it's a no from me.

brees84 12-21-2015 06:46 PM

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RG3 lol

In Washington, teammates absolutely hated RG3.

Danno 12-21-2015 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 686173)
RG3 lol

In Washington, teammates absolutely hated RG3.

I'd heard that too, but was it media rumor mongering or was it actually true?

brees84 12-21-2015 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 686174)
I'd heard that too, but was it media rumor mongering or was it actually true?

Rumor doesn't last that long. And multiple players were blaming him weekly.
His interviews are something like this: It's not my fault, coaches suck, teammates suck...

nola_swammi 12-21-2015 09:56 PM

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Pass

OldMaid 12-21-2015 10:39 PM

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Manziel is a hot mess every which way still. Immature. Ungrate. A head case. Needs a babysitter.

No way.

I like RGII personaly. He is a decent guy.
Too costly and he just did not catch fire in the NFL. He is thisclose to done.
No to him.

Crusader 12-21-2015 10:56 PM

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Oh hell no!

He isn't nearly as mobile as he used to be and that was his big thing from the start. He has never shown that he has the smarts to stand in the pocket and read an NFL defence in an effective way. Allready when he was drafted I was saying that the Redskins had a better QB on their roster in Cousins.

burningmetal 12-21-2015 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 686168)
I believe it would be a great idea. His value is low. We'd get him cheap. Mobile QB's are where the NFL is heading. It's about time we changed up our offense, and with RG3 under center we would have to. I still believe in RG3.

The NFL was starting to put more and more Mobile QB's in the league, but that's actually dying away now. It's quickly being discovered that those guys don't last. I said it back when Michael Vick was all the rage, in Atlanta. It wasn't just about the amount of hits he'd take, it was that he was nothing but a gimmick. He had a strong arm but wasn't that accurate. I always thought the league would catch up to him, and it did.

He had a brief renaissance with the Eagles but quickly came tumbling back to earth. YET, he's maybe had the best career of all the mobile QB's. The rest of them have a year or two, and then just fizzle out.

Vince Young, Colin Kaepernick, Manziel (has yet to do anything), Robert Griffin. Russel Wilson has won more than any of them, and has showed the most sustained success, albeit over a relatively short period of time. He's not put up great numbers, though. He's always been a game manager up until this little run he's been on in the last few weeks.

I like for a QB to have athleticism, in certain instances, but the running QB just really doesn't belong in this league. You need to be able to read defense and throw accurately. Teams can't pay the kind of money QB's command today for a guy to run around and take a bunch of hits.

Griffin was the one guy who I thought had the accuracy to make it, actually. But he just lost it upstairs. Who knows why.

Halo 12-21-2015 11:19 PM

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Sounds like the mouthpiece of the Roger Goodell regime -- NFL-Pravda Network -- is at it again. Nice propaganda Roger. Well played.

SmashMouth 12-21-2015 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 686137)
RGIII can't pass......so I'll pass on him. He's not cerebral enough for Sean Payton anyway.:dunce:

Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 686168)
I believe it would be a great idea. His value is low. We'd get him cheap. Mobile QB's are where the NFL is heading. It's about time we changed up our offense, and with RG3 under center we would have to. I still believe in RG3.

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 686487)
Oh hell no!

He isn't nearly as mobile as he used to be and that was his big thing from the start. He has never shown that he has the smarts to stand in the pocket and read an NFL defence in an effective way. Allready when he was drafted I was saying that the Redskins had a better QB on their roster in Cousins.

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 686497)
Sounds like the mouthpiece of the Roger Goodell regime -- NFL-Pravda Network -- is at it again. Nice propaganda Roger. Well played.

He already had a Master Degree when he was drafted ... can't be that much of a box of rocks!:bugeyes:

bobdog86 12-21-2015 11:53 PM

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Pass.........rather go with Grayson...RG III not here please.

jeanpierre 12-22-2015 03:26 AM

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Crusader 12-22-2015 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 686499)
He already had a Master Degree when he was drafted ... can't be that much of a box of rocks!:bugeyes:

Intelligence and football smarts isn't at all the same thing. I played with guys that were really really dumb but with great instincts and knowledge of the game and the other way around too.

rezburna 12-22-2015 05:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 686492)
The NFL was starting to put more and more Mobile QB's in the league, but that's actually dying away now. It's quickly being discovered that those guys don't last. I said it back when Michael Vick was all the rage, in Atlanta. It wasn't just about the amount of hits he'd take, it was that he was nothing but a gimmick. He had a strong arm but wasn't that accurate. I always thought the league would catch up to him, and it did.

He had a brief renaissance with the Eagles but quickly came tumbling back to earth. YET, he's maybe had the best career of all the mobile QB's. The rest of them have a year or two, and then just fizzle out.

Vince Young, Colin Kaepernick, Manziel (has yet to do anything), Robert Griffin. Russel Wilson has won more than any of them, and has showed the most sustained success, albeit over a relatively short period of time. He's not put up great numbers, though. He's always been a game manager up until this little run he's been on in the last few weeks.

I like for a QB to have athleticism, in certain instances, but the running QB just really doesn't belong in this league. You need to be able to read defense and throw accurately. Teams can't pay the kind of money QB's command today for a guy to run around and take a bunch of hits.

Griffin was the one guy who I thought had the accuracy to make it, actually. But he just lost it upstairs. Who knows why.

Cam Newton, Tyrod Taylor, Russell Wilson, and Teddy Bridgewater are all having great years respectively. Two of them are top 5 QB'a this year. Collin Kaepernick should have never been benched. Johnny Manziel shows flashes of genius. Vince Young deserved to still be in the league, as a back up at the least. Marcus Mariota and James Winston are going to be great for years to come. Andrew Luck and Aaron Rodgers are both mobile. DeShaun Watson from Clemson will be a top QB in the draft. The mobile QB is actually more popular then ever, especially with coaches who are patient enough to build their offense around that player and let the playbook grow as they do. If Wilson was merely a game manager his first few years, then so was Brees and Brady. He outplayed both of them at this point of their careers. Ben Roethlisberger too. They just historically don't have the patience with these mobile QB's. More specifically the Black QB's, but that seems to be slowly changing.

SloMotion 12-22-2015 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 686513)
... More specifically the Black QB's, but that seems to be slowly changing.

:lol: ... How did I know this is where you were going with your argument, ;) ... must be sad going through life reading race into everything, eh? #smh.

rezburna 12-22-2015 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 686518)
:lol: ... How did I know this is where you were going with your argument, ;) ... must be sad going through life reading race into everything, eh? #smh.

Yes, it's extremely sad.

SloMotion 12-22-2015 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 686526)
Yes, it's extremely sad.

Well cheer up, bro, and use this board as a place to escape all that, that's what I do, just sayin', give it a rest once in awhile, :).

burningmetal 12-22-2015 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 686513)
Cam Newton, Tyrod Taylor, Russell Wilson, and Teddy Bridgewater are all having great years respectively. Two of them are top 5 QB'a this year. Collin Kaepernick should have never been benched. Johnny Manziel shows flashes of genius. Vince Young deserved to still be in the league, as a back up at the least. Marcus Mariota and James Winston are going to be great for years to come. Andrew Luck and Aaron Rodgers are both mobile. DeShaun Watson from Clemson will be a top QB in the draft. The mobile QB is actually more popular then ever, especially with coaches who are patient enough to build their offense around that player and let the playbook grow as they do. If Wilson was merely a game manager his first few years, then so was Brees and Brady. He outplayed both of them at this point of their careers. Ben Roethlisberger too. They just historically don't have the patience with these mobile QB's. More specifically the Black QB's, but that seems to be slowly changing.

I knew I was forgetting someone, thanks for reminding me. Ol' Cam Newton. He's another who relies a ton on his legs and isn't exactly polished as a passer. His career has gotten off to a very similar start to Vick's. Teams are over committing on his running ability and making it too easy in the passing game. They get offense from the big chunk plays, as opposed to methodically moving it down the field.

It's only a matter of time before Cam starts trending down with the rest of them, unless he actually changes his game. Mcnabb came into the league as a runner, but became a pocket passer and extended his career. He wasn't great, but he was able to sustain himself.

The other guys you mentioned are not runners, my friend. There's a huge difference between being able to run when you have to, and being an actual dual threat QB. Rodgers, Luck, Steve Young, Fran Tarkenton.... All athletic guys who can/could extend plays with their feet, but not guys who are/were just looking to run it all the time.

That's why I said I like athleticism in QB's, but not actual dual threat guys. Not in the NFL, anyway. Bridgewater is not a great runner, never has been. He really doesn't belong in the dual threat conversation. But as long as we're talking about him, I think calling his season "great" is a huge reach. He's had a pretty wildly inconsistent year. Before you think that his team being 9-5 has much to do with him, I'll remind you that they made the playoffs with Christian Ponder, once. I think Teddy has potential, but he's got a long way to go.

As for Wilson, I already mentioned him. He's on a good run, right now. He was not so good in the first half of the season, and has always been a game manager. But I'll give him his due for accepting that role and not screwing things up (most of the time).

Marcus Mariota has done nothing but lose so far. Winston, again, not a dual threat QB, bro. Just because he's black and runs every now and then, does not make him a running QB. And you don't think Kaepernick should have been benched? WOW... Now you're just closing your eyes and hoping I won't read.

This last crop of "dual threat" guys that have been struggling have clearly began to sway the movement back toward pocket passers. If you look at prospect boards and see who's getting all the attention, it's a bunch of tall, slow guys with rocket arms. There's going to be a guy who lights the world on fire with his legs every now and then who teams will still take a chance on. And those are the kind of teams that keep losing.

Euphoria 12-22-2015 09:29 AM

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People say anything this time of year.

saintfan 12-22-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 686542)
Well cheer up, bro, and use this board as a place to escape all that, that's what I do, just sayin', give it a rest once in awhile, :).

You're an angry black rapper?

:lolup:

SloMotion 12-22-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 686583)
You're an angry black rapper?

:lolup:

Yo' ... maybe not, but I can identify as one if Bruce Jenner & Rachel Dolezal can get away with it, ;).

hagan714 12-22-2015 02:25 PM

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the media and panic head lines. gotta love those that stay up dreaming up the rumor mill


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