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I know we are only a few hours into free agency, but my spirits are officially down. This seems like every other year of free agency since Haz has been here. I have yet to hear about anyone coming in for a visit with the team even. Skins have signed Rabach(Ravens C) and Samuels back, Rams have Coakley, cowboys got Ferguson, and to top it off Pierce is visiting Minny with the hope of having a contract in hand today(although it is reported he has given the skins the right to match any offer he gets). Left we forget though, Minny is 30 mil under the cap. What a freaking crock. I allowed myself to get swept up for about a week and this is the thanks I get. I don't care how early in FA it is, get someone's ass on a plane and in for a visit. At least generate some buzz, some talk, something. We suck. :realmad: :furious: :censored:

[Edited on 2/3/2005 by saintswhodi]

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That\'s some fuuny S%$#! I feel your pain!!! It\'s gonna get worse as the list dwindles and There are no Saints involvements!

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Hey bro....at some point you can do nothing but shake your head and laugh. I\'ve seen it too many times to be surprised that we aren\'t pursuing any big name impact players. That\'s just not the front office\'s philosophy. They look for value for a player. They would rather get a C+ player at an A+ price than get an A- player at a C- price.

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Just to piss me off more, even though we don\'t need a receiver, the Ravens just signed Derrick Mason, their biggest need. Why do so many :censored: teams get it and we don\'t? WHY!!!!!!!!!!

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Let\'s not get carried away now.

Who has Atlanta signed? Or for that matter: Panthers, Eagles, Bucs, Cardinals, Green Bay, 49\'ers, ect., ect...

It\'s been indicated that the biggest move the Saints will make is trading Darren Howard and getting an impact player. That may be a player who isn\'t a free-agent.

Also, Tebucky is more than likely gone. We should get our guy there.

And I\'m quite confident that we\'ll get someone to replace Victor Riley.

I\'m as impatient as the rest of you guys but let\'s give \'em some time...

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Lions just got Kenoy Kennedy. :killtard:

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That one hurt.

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lol....I\'m sorry for your pain....I feel it too....

Panthers, Eagles, Bucs, Packers, 49ers and even Cardinals have all shown that they have some resemblance of competence when it comes to free agency though...that\'s the big difference...lol

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OUCH! Just a question/ thought. I heard that O pace might be trade bait in rumours earlier this week and it was mentioned that replacing V Riley was one of the Saints needs. Could we not swing something with ST.Louis and get Pace here and then send Howard to Jacks for Darius? Would this pose a CAP problem adding these 2?

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we\'ll trade him for scrapss...trust me...i\'m pessimistic.

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That won\'t take a big leap of faith ... trust me... ;)

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Yeah I am getting kind of use to this crap. I think they feel good due to the way they finished.

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StallFN, no way. Pace is too expensive and we already overpay for Gandy. Uh, uh. No dice on that one.

Euph, I get that same feeling and that is what pisses me off.

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Thought so. could\'ve been nice though?

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Okay, read this.

It is from John Clayton\'s early free agent reports. Can only mean one of two things since Kenndy is gone now. The trade for Darius is more likely, or we are targeting someone like Dwight Smith or Idrees Bashir.

Also FN, it said Pace may be traded to the Giants.

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or we are going to do nothing.

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True. Thanks baron. I am pissed again. :mad2:

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Pace to Giants?

Baronm:

I heard that involved A straight up trade for Strahan?
Would you make that trade?
I know Strahan had a big injury last year but still.
I just hope we can get somebody like Darius if we\'re going to lose Howard, That\'s all!

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Apparently Anthony Henry may have just signed with the Cowboys as well. :flush:

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Where did you guys see the kenoy signed with lions? If possible where do you get your news because I only get mine from kffl.com and theredzone.org

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John Clayton has a running free agency link on ESPN and Yahoo has a tracker I just posted the link to in another thread.

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...what\'s wrong with you, people????

Didn\'t you see the last 4 games of last season????

FA\'s? ??? ..we don\'t need no stinkin\' FA\'s...

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they are talking with warrick holdman of the browns. a project but oh what a value. LOL

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:cussing: At this point in free agency, that\'s my tag. After all the good ones are gone, it will be :crying:

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I would have to agree that it would bolster some confidence in management to see someone of impact caliber, flying in to meet with the team. The latest I saw showed Mueller wasn\'t in any hurry to do anything. That\'s just fine and dandy if we are coming off a winning season and are stacked... but we didn\'t and we\'re not!

Maybe we\'ll wake tomorrow and see some great and master plan unfolded that makes us appear to be a team serious about winning more than 8 games. :hallucine:

[Edited on 2/3/2005 by 4DSaints]

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:nutz:

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Still pissed over here. Our team is so asleep at the wheel. :puke:

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i don\'t know, it\'s like you sign someone then it takes so long for them to grasp the system or something. unless their a real high profile guy. i mean don\'t most of the really good teams only get a few guys in free agency but leave their core the same.

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Hey ... we made a move!!!

Pathon has officially been released...

:moody:

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the good teams still build through draft right. could be that\'s where we should really focus. but we have had our problems there too. i\'m sure i could be wrong, just seems that way in my mind.

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thta\'s funny mut.

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See I do not always cause the trouble around here .... :roll:

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Let me see, no rumors yet? Still pissed. :casstet:

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GREAT!!! :cussing: great!! Pierce goes to the Giants without so much as a call. Jennings(T) goes elsewhere without us getting a visit. It is too late to hate these dumb asses again?

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Yeah, tru enough, but NOBODY dreams up a good conspiracy theory like you 08. I\'m a little bored so far today. Whatcha got? :P

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How about the Benson Bull**** Boogie Theory .

The theory that Benson has been jerking the state of Louisianna off with the thought of moving the Saints to Los Angeles . A place the Saints would be as welcome in as a fart in an elevator . Talk about no financial concessions , the state borrowed money from the teachers to balance the budget .

Heard the latest in Anaheim ?? The owner of the Angels has added the Los Angeles name to the front of the Angels . Now it reads like \" The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim \". Wait til he has a few 0 attendance days and the rumors should start flying about them .

The last thing Tinsel Town , home of the glamour and red carpet wants is someone elses perenial loser . They want new and fresh with an identity that is all about Los angeles . The Los Angeles Earthquakes .

So for some old school rap . As Benson is saying \" I am goin out to Cali \" 08 \'s line is \" I don\'t think so \".......

:yltype:

Were you lookin for something in the Brooks flavor Saintfan ???

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All this talk reminds me of the \" Any Given Sunday \" Movie scenerio!! Maybe Major League Style!!! Let the team fall apart and then, You\'ll have no choice BUT to move the team! Any other theories????

P.S Both those movies ROCK, but The Replacements still RULES!!

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Idrees Bashir.....to meet with Dolphins. Watched NFl Network for an hour this morning, and not one mention of the Saints......Can someone call Loomey and let him know he can put the beans down, Free Agency has started!

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I have read ESPN Insider and every other site I can just to see possibly the Saints name rumored to anyone, and no luck. Nothing. But we have this exciting Mayberry rumor to dream about. What a crock. :mad:

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fromn Randy Mueller:

\"Jonathan (New Orleans)
RANDY, I know you know the Saints. What are they doing, and will Darren Howard be traded??

MUELLER
Predicting what they are going to do is tough. They are paying Will Smith and Charles Grant as well, who are both ends, so keeping Howard is more a reflection of them having cap room as opposed to having a plan...I\'d think they would trade him if they could get somebody to offer them afirst round pick.It might be worth it for a team to do so...He\'s a real good player who can get 10-12 sacks every year. \"

which I\'m reading into and saying that we don\'t have a plan.