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saintsfan1976 05-19-2016 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 704176)
This is what you have from last season - Cooks, Snead, Coleman...

Coleman's size is intriguing, but he won't get separation with honest coverage; and then, there's the questionable hands...

Cooks is always going to be a home run threat and will get his by season's end, but his size is a liability on third down and red zone conversions...

Wille Snead is a young complementary possession receiver who we were fortunate to land as a free agent...

That's it, that's all you got as far as wide receivers...

So you got questionable hands, an all or none home run hitter, and a good underneath route runner...

Brees and the Saints offense will not be elite without Marques Colston keeping defenses honest...

I've asked for WR help what, three years now?

Nearly as long as I've cried for a speedy edge rusher...

Anyway, BOLDIN is exactly what we're missing.

I'm eager to see Thomas in action but IMO he tops out at a #2 WR (at best)

B_Dub_Saint 05-19-2016 09:57 PM

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Yall don't forget about Fleener. He will be a WR/TE for us. I do agree Boldin would be an awesome addition.

foreverfan 05-19-2016 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 704275)
Yall don't forget about Fleener. He will be a WR/TE for us. I do agree Boldin would be an awesome addition.

As long as you have Brees he as proven is all you really need it 3 black WR who can catch the ball and we will be fine. :bs:

blackangold 05-19-2016 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 704272)
I've asked for WR help what, three years now?

Nearly as long as I've cried for a speedy edge rusher...

Anyway, BOLDIN is exactly what we're missing.

I'm eager to see Thomas in action but IMO he tops out at a #2 WR (at best)

You have asked for WRs for 3 years now, and each year we have had one of the top offenses in the NFL... So essentially that negates the need for your suggestion, as in, we don't need another WR.

jeanpierre 05-20-2016 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 704277)
You have asked for WRs for 3 years now, and each year we have had one of the top offenses in the NFL... So essentially that negates the need for your suggestion, as in, we don't need another WR.

How does that negate it? We've all seen Colston's age getting up on him and said we needed to start finding an "X" receiver to learn from him...

And I've posted this before, No. 1 offense in yards, not in points, and the lack of converting red zone opportunities are why we're not competing in the playoffs...

dizzle88 05-20-2016 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 704287)
How does that negate it? We've all seen Colston's age getting up on him and said we needed to start finding an "X" receiver to learn from him...

And I've posted this before, No. 1 offense in yards, not in points, and the lack of converting red zone opportunities are why we're not competing in the playoffs...

I understand where your coming from but I think it's more "the defense giving up 30-35 points per game" as the reason we don't make the playoffs.

jeanpierre 05-20-2016 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 704292)
I understand where your coming from but I think it's more "the defense giving up 30-35 points per game" as the reason we don't make the playoffs.

Hey, have no delusions about the defensive failures; I'm just in agreement with '76 that our strength is the offense and what made us contenders was coming away with seven and not three or worse...

It's great that Drew gets all this press about leading the No.1 offense, but we're not converting for touchdowns as when Colston was younger, who later was soldiering through problematic arthritis...

And as a result, we're coming up short on the scoreboard more often...

K Major 05-20-2016 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 704287)
And I've posted this before, No. 1 offense in yards, not in points, and the lack of converting red zone opportunities are why we're not competing in the playoffs...

^^ This can't be emphasized enough.

Budsdrinker 05-20-2016 10:05 AM

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If you're going after Boldin you just as well bring Colston back. Colston is 3 years younger and had comparable stats.

K Major 05-20-2016 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 704317)
If you're going after Boldin you just as well bring Colston back. Colston is 3 years younger and had comparable stats.

Bud,
Disagree on that one. Stats are not the only story here. Colston has definitely lost a step or two over the last couple of seasons & has battling nagging injuries.

Boldin however hasn't truly lost a step as most would first point out. Technique, consistency, aggression is his game. Again at age 34, 35 the hands are ELITE possession receiver hands. Pick your poison... 9 route (go route) or 7 yard slant, chances are AB is going to catch the ball. If you are a stats guy, Boldin has had TWO drops in 2015 (let that sink in) which is a ridiculous low drop rate percentage. The dude is still crafty in the middle of the field. Competes on every play and from what I have read, strong locker room presence.

Colston is one of my all time favorite Saints, but he isn't productive as Boldin is at this point of his career.


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