One of the best 5-6 team I have witnessed

rezburna · 12-02-2016, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

I was going to say maybe a corner but then I remembered how good PJ Williams was playing before he got hurt.

Devin Breaux, P.J. Williams, and Damian Swann all staying healthy would have been a different story for us.

jeanpierre · 12-02-2016, 09:30 AM

We've got an excellent stable of cornerbacks and at least three rising safeties (Vacarro, Bell and Harris); may need another free safety (free agency, third day pick) at worst...

On defense we need defensive ends and linebackers...

Then there's the guard position...

halloween 65 · 12-02-2016, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

We've got an excellent stable of cornerbacks and at least three rising safeties (Vacarro, Bell and Harris); may need another free safety (free agency, third day pick) at worst...

On defense we need defensive ends and linebackers...

Then there's the guard position...

There are a few contracts up for some D players but I would add another DT to my list. I would add a CB. I got to see whats up with Anthony, I feel for that kid but another lb is needed purely for depth at the least .Right now Payton has his toys which the O is clicking but a G should be addressed and Strief needs to groom his guy at RT. I'm glad Strief has played well, he's been a rock there and whoever takes his spot I hope is as good and steady.

The Dude · 12-02-2016, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

New Orleans Saints (5-6)

Schedule so far:
Week 1 - vs. Raiders - Lost, 34-35
Week 2 - at Giants - Lost, 13-16
Week 3 - vs. Falcons - Lost, 32-45
Week 4 - at Chargers, Won, 35-34
Week 6 - vs. Panthers, Won, 41-38
Week 7 - at Chiefs, Lost, 21-27
Week 8 - vs. Seahawks, Won, 25-20
Week 9 - at 49ers - Won, 41-23
Week 10 - vs. Broncos - Lost, 23-25
Week 11 - at Panthers - Lost, 20-23
Week 12 - vs. Rams - Won, 49-21

Just when I thought the saints could not find new ways to loss they yet again surprised me.

Considering all the defense has gone through with injuries and the shuffling of new faces on offense, not bad not bad at all

Plenty of good would of, could of, should of's to hang ones hat on.

LOSS. But I agree. All of those games could have gone either way. We can stand toe to toe with any team in the league. Still though, playoffs are determined by games won, not how well a team plays. There are no points for playing close. If we had all our guys healthy we would be great.
Have we seen Breaux yet?

K Major · 12-02-2016, 02:36 PM

Swann and Armstead are guys I'm really concerned about long term (repeated injuries).

hagan714 · 12-02-2016, 03:47 PM

biggest issue with CB is size. that and concussions. two go hand in hand?

blackangold · 12-02-2016, 04:33 PM

I think if we are focusing on DBs we will continue to suck as a defense... That is what we have always done.

We need to get bigger, faster and meaner in the front 7. Let's start getting some pressure on the QB and you'll see our DBs shine.

dizzle88 · 12-02-2016, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I think if we are focusing on DBs we will continue to suck as a defense... That is what we have always done.

We need to get bigger, faster and meaner in the front 7. Let's start getting some pressure on the QB and you'll see our DBs shine.

Absolutely!

Even Jairus Byrd hasn't looked completely awful since the D line has started to improve!

Boutte · 12-02-2016, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

LMAO Boutte I am an old timer and have seen it all with the saints. I know a bad 5-6 team when I see it. This is not one of them. This is a team that is pulling together each and every week.

Yes this has been painful yet a very rewarding experience at the same time. I feel better about the depth we have now than I have in a long time.

Kinda reminds of when SP brought in Scott Fugita and the gang way back when.

I have a shopping list and a sharp knife for cuts still. But at least it is trimming the fat vs slaughtering the whole dam cow.

Reminds me of the 08 team. I'm really feeling good about this team for the 1st time since 2013.

K Major · 12-02-2016, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

We need to get bigger, faster and meaner in the front 7. Let's start getting some pressure on the QB and you'll see our DBs shine.

Outside of re signing Nick Fairley, I hope the Saints FO target a legit pass rusher either FA and/or 2017 draft as first priority.

12-02-2016, 08:40 AM	#11
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,658	Re: One of the best 5-6 team I have witnessed Originally Posted by darksoul35 I was going to say maybe a corner but then I remembered how good PJ Williams was playing before he got hurt. Devin Breaux, P.J. Williams, and Damian Swann all staying healthy would have been a different story for us. hagan714 and darksoul35 like this.

12-02-2016, 09:30 AM	#12
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: One of the best 5-6 team I have witnessed We've got an excellent stable of cornerbacks and at least three rising safeties (Vacarro, Bell and Harris); may need another free safety (free agency, third day pick) at worst... On defense we need defensive ends and linebackers... Then there's the guard position... hagan714 likes this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: One of the best 5-6 team I have witnessed Originally Posted by jeanpierre We've got an excellent stable of cornerbacks and at least three rising safeties (Vacarro, Bell and Harris); may need another free safety (free agency, third day pick) at worst... On defense we need defensive ends and linebackers... Then there's the guard position... There are a few contracts up for some D players but I would add another DT to my list. I would add a CB. I got to see whats up with Anthony, I feel for that kid but another lb is needed purely for depth at the least .Right now Payton has his toys which the O is clicking but a G should be addressed and Strief needs to groom his guy at RT. I'm glad Strief has played well, he's been a rock there and whoever takes his spot I hope is as good and steady. hagan714 likes this.

12-02-2016, 12:21 PM	#14
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: One of the best 5-6 team I have witnessed Originally Posted by hagan714 New Orleans Saints (5-6) Schedule so far: Week 1 - vs. Raiders - Lost, 34-35 Week 2 - at Giants - Lost, 13-16 Week 3 - vs. Falcons - Lost, 32-45 Week 4 - at Chargers, Won, 35-34 Week 6 - vs. Panthers, Won, 41-38 Week 7 - at Chiefs, Lost, 21-27 Week 8 - vs. Seahawks, Won, 25-20 Week 9 - at 49ers - Won, 41-23 Week 10 - vs. Broncos - Lost, 23-25 Week 11 - at Panthers - Lost, 20-23 Week 12 - vs. Rams - Won, 49-21 Just when I thought the saints could not find new ways to loss they yet again surprised me. Considering all the defense has gone through with injuries and the shuffling of new faces on offense, not bad not bad at all Plenty of good would of, could of, should of's to hang ones hat on. LOSS. But I agree. All of those games could have gone either way. We can stand toe to toe with any team in the league. Still though, playoffs are determined by games won, not how well a team plays. There are no points for playing close. If we had all our guys healthy we would be great. Have we seen Breaux yet? hagan714 likes this.
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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: One of the best 5-6 team I have witnessed I think if we are focusing on DBs we will continue to suck as a defense... That is what we have always done. We need to get bigger, faster and meaner in the front 7. Let's start getting some pressure on the QB and you'll see our DBs shine. dizzle88 likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: One of the best 5-6 team I have witnessed Originally Posted by blackangold I think if we are focusing on DBs we will continue to suck as a defense... That is what we have always done. We need to get bigger, faster and meaner in the front 7. Let's start getting some pressure on the QB and you'll see our DBs shine. Absolutely! Even Jairus Byrd hasn't looked completely awful since the D line has started to improve! hagan714 likes this.

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Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: One of the best 5-6 team I have witnessed Originally Posted by hagan714 LMAO Boutte I am an old timer and have seen it all with the saints. I know a bad 5-6 team when I see it. This is not one of them. This is a team that is pulling together each and every week. Yes this has been painful yet a very rewarding experience at the same time. I feel better about the depth we have now than I have in a long time. Kinda reminds of when SP brought in Scott Fugita and the gang way back when. I have a shopping list and a sharp knife for cuts still. But at least it is trimming the fat vs slaughtering the whole dam cow. Reminds me of the 08 team. I'm really feeling good about this team for the 1st time since 2013. hagan714 likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,049 Blog Entries: 3	Re: One of the best 5-6 team I have witnessed Originally Posted by blackangold We need to get bigger, faster and meaner in the front 7. Let's start getting some pressure on the QB and you'll see our DBs shine. Outside of re signing Nick Fairley, I hope the Saints FO target a legit pass rusher either FA and/or 2017 draft as first priority. hagan714 likes this.

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