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GumboBC 03-16-2005 06:03 PM

Same old Saints?
Just a couple of weeks ago all I was hearing was "Same old Saints." Folks were saying Mayberry couldn't play RT. And they were saying FS wasn't that big of a need and that Loomis and Haslett had failed because there was no LB brought in.

Now it seems like folks have completely changed their stance. I even read where WhoDat said he was optimistic. And I've heard some of the more pessimistic folks say they are encouraged also.

But ... WHY?

Nothing has changed since then! Mayberry is still playing RT. We still don't have a LB. Haslett and Venturi are still the coaches. Sheppard is the OC. Loomis is still the GM. Brooks is still the QB.

What happened to give these pessimists hope?

[Edited on 17/3/2005 by GumboBC]

papz 03-16-2005 06:30 PM

Same old Saints?
Minus Riley and Jones... add Smith, Mayberry, and a motivated Sullivan... looks improved to me. Watson, Colby, and Allen with another year of experience looks fine to me. Healthy Deuce, simplified offense (ball control), Horn still here, Bentley, Jacox, Gandy, Stallworth, Smith, Grant, McKensie, Brown, Bellamy also looks good to me. Haslett isn\'t that bad... Venturi is but hey, you can\'t win them all.

Team looks encouraging to me... hopefully, nevermind I change that, WE WILL MAKE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS! :bandg:

CheramieIII 03-16-2005 06:51 PM

Same old Saints?
Looks like some people have seen the light, the sunlight I mean.

:soleil: :soleil: :soleil: :soleil: :soleil: :soleil: :soleil:

FireVenturi 03-16-2005 07:38 PM

Same old Saints?
i was never pessimistic, i just said that Mayberry is not a RT, which is the truth. I do like the Fs Smith and Te Meire. and if we get Dat and a 2nd??AWESOME

Saint_LB 03-16-2005 08:22 PM

Same old Saints?
38 years....1 playoff win...some people are never satisfied!!

bayouking318 03-16-2005 08:23 PM

Same old Saints?
You forgot the Biggest improvement. Removing Venturi from DC :thumbsup:

stockman311 03-16-2005 09:09 PM

Same old Saints?
All this talk about RT and an improved Sullivan got me thinking. Sullivan is not even the biggest bust we have from the University of Georgia. At least he has seen the field and made a couple of plays. Our biggest bust is none other than Stinky Stinchcomb. Is this guy ever going to play RT? Can somebody answer this for me. We drafted this guy in the second round and has not even sniffed the field of play. What kind of country is this where you can get paid to do nothing for your employer? They could have drafted me in the second round. I would have signed for a lot less and they would have gotten the same production.

WhoDat 03-16-2005 10:31 PM

Same old Saints?
My optimism is still contingent on a lot of things and was somewhat misinformed.

First, I based it in part on news that the Saints would acquire Dat Ngyuen and a 2nd from Dallas for Howard. It appears that isn\'t the case.

Second, it was based on some move I said that I would like to see in the draft, that I still realistically belive are questionable at best.

But, my stance remains unchanged.

IF the Saints get a Dat Nguyen level LB AND a 2nd in a trade for Howard.... AND

IF the Saints sign a veteran DT or draft one high... AND

IF the Saints sign Smith in the first, Webster in the 2nd, and a LB or DT with their other 2nd

THEN I will call it a very successful offseason. Why does that give me optimism? Well, the last time I think the Saints did really well in FA and the draft was 2000. They made the playoffs that year. Connection? I dunno, but it\'ll give me hope.

saintz08 03-16-2005 10:44 PM

Same old Saints?

Now it seems like folks have completely changed their stance. I even read where WhoDat said he was optimistic. And I\'ve heard some of the more pessimistic folks say they are encouraged also.
We just do it to mess with you ..... ;)

Glad to see it worked ......

LKelley67 03-16-2005 11:07 PM

Same old Saints?
aaron brooks will be mvp. he only didn\'t last year cuz of no running game, a bad offensive line, receivers dropping so many balls, bad coaching, wrong schemes for him, the defense not giving him enough opportuniites, the press biased against him, and the fans not supporting him.

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