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Old 08-19-2017, 05:05 AM   #11
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Old 08-19-2017, 05:25 AM   #12
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Re: Saints Rookie Marcus Williams Is Flashing Ball-Hawking Skills At Safety

Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
Lattimore-obvious lock. Hammy holds up and he's here a while
Ramczyk- same as Lattimore
Williams-keep hearing his name the last week or so practice squad
Kamara- I think he makes roster. may hit PS but I feel like if he does he will get activated

Anzaline-he will play in rotataion
Hendrickson- haven't heard much
Muhammad -he makes practice squad or be with someone else. I don't see any of them not getting a chance in the NFL
I'm feeling pretty good about them.

I think all of them could wind up on PS or will be playing somewhere.
3 years we will know but I have a good feeling. Haven't heard much negative on any of them.
First 4 will be on final roster
There is absolutely no way Williams and Kamara go to the Practice Squad, Kamara is already our Sproles replacement and Williams is guaranteed a spot in the 3 safety set rotation right from the get go.
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Old 08-19-2017, 05:42 AM   #13
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Re: Saints Rookie Marcus Williams Is Flashing Ball-Hawking Skills At Safety

I beat the drum for the kid and was excited when the saints drafted him. I was actually was laughing at the big fat crow I put in the freezer. Think I am not eating this bird. I hope

But like any pick the saints make they have the length of their contract to show they belong on this team.

One preseason game is not enough to get too excited.

its early yet but things look good so far

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Old 08-19-2017, 07:12 AM   #14
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Re: Saints Rookie Marcus Williams Is Flashing Ball-Hawking Skills At Safety

I was pretty damn thrilled about him when I read somewhere soon after the draft that Dan Quinn strongly considered drafting him at the end of the first round to be his new Earl Thomas.
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Old 08-19-2017, 08:30 AM   #15
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Re: Saints Rookie Marcus Williams Is Flashing Ball-Hawking Skills At Safety

Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
Lattimore-obvious lock. Hammy holds up and he's here a while
Ramczyk- same as Lattimore
Williams-keep hearing his name the last week or so practice squad
Kamara- I think he makes roster. may hit PS but I feel like if he does he will get activated

Anzaline-he will play in rotataion
Hendrickson- haven't heard much
Muhammad -he makes practice squad or be with someone else. I don't see any of them not getting a chance in the NFL
I'm feeling pretty good about them.

I think all of them could wind up on PS or will be playing somewhere.
3 years we will know but I have a good feeling. Haven't heard much negative on any of them.
First 4 will be on final roster
Dude,

I'm not sure you are clear on how the practice squad actually works. First and foremost the player has to be cut and clear waivers before they can be placed on the practice squad. Second, once a player is on a practice squad, any of the 32 teams in the league can sign the player from the practice squad to their 53 man roster. And finally there are eligibility rules (which I am quoting because of the notion posted elsewhere that Daniel or Nassib should be placed on the PS):
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_squad
A player cannot participate on the practice squad for more than three seasons; he is eligible for a third season only if the team has at least 53 players on its active/inactive list for the duration of that player's employment, or have no prior accrued seasons in the NFL (an accrued season is six or more games on the active roster); or if he has accrued a year of NFL experience on a club's 53-man active roster. If the player was on the active list for fewer than 9 games during their "only accrued season(s)", he maintains his eligibility for the practice squad. Games in which a player is listed as the third-string quarterback (a designation that has been abolished as of 2011) do not count as being on the active list.
I think folks have to disabuse themselves of the notion that really talented NFL rookies (drafted or undrafted) have the opportunity to be stashed on the PS as if they are still the organization's property. Essentially the collection of all 32 league PS serve as a collective resource for the league to develop players who are not quite ready to be on a 53 man roster. However, if a player is talented enough to make any 53 man roster, they will not clear waivers to get to the PS.

So it's laughable to think that Kamara or Williams can be on the Saints PS where there will be enough tape to show that they are capable of being starters in this league. It's even likely that Muhammad and Hendrickson will have enough tape and positive evaluations at the end of the preseason not to be cut.

BTW the Saints somewhat dubious method for redshirting talented draft picks is to put them on IR. It is in fact unclear to me when they've done this exactly how injured the player actually was. But it certainly is a method where you retain the rights of the player without having to carry them on the 53 man roster.

But in short, every pro scouting department in the league is reviewing tape of every other organization. Come September 2nd there will be nearly 1200 players, many of whom are draftees, UDFA, and players still eligible for a PS that will be picked up and placed into one of the 320 available PS slots somewhere. But I'd be shocked if any high level draft picks make it there.

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Old 08-19-2017, 09:26 AM   #16
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I was pretty damn thrilled about him when I read somewhere soon after the draft that Dan Quinn strongly considered drafting him at the end of the first round to be his new Earl Thomas.
The second coming of Earl?

That is saying a lot. He is not the hitter Earl is.

But the rest of his game is fair to compare to Earl.

I think.

I can reach on that one
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Lattimore-obvious lock. Hammy holds up and he's here a while
Ramczyk- same as Lattimore
Williams-keep hearing his name the last week or so practice squad
Kamara- I think he makes roster. may hit PS but I feel like if he does he will get activated

Anzaline-he will play in rotataion
Hendrickson- haven't heard much
Muhammad -he makes practice squad or be with someone else. I don't see any of them not getting a chance in the NFL
I'm feeling pretty good about them.

I think all of them could wind up on PS or will be playing somewhere.
3 years we will know but I have a good feeling. Haven't heard much negative on any of them.
First 4 will be on final roster
Williams and Kamara have absolutely no chance at hitting PS. Kamara is the real deal. Williams is going to be really good for us, he might be starting over Bell before the year ends.

As of right now. and can't tell until they actually play and stay relatively healthy, looks like we have hit on at least 4 of our draft picks, maybe 5. That would be amazing.

Muhammhed is interesting. He will either be on the team or PS. He has flashed. Hendrickson has been hurt I think. Anz will make the squad.
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I beat the drum for the kid and was excited when the saints drafted him. I was actually was laughing at the big fat crow I put in the freezer. Think I am not eating this bird. I hope

But like any pick the saints make they have the length of their contract to show they belong on this team.

One preseason game is not enough to get too excited.

its early yet but things look good so far
I will be honest, I had no idea who he even was, but he looks like a good one. Nice call
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Re: Saints Rookie Marcus Williams Is Flashing Ball-Hawking Skills At Safety

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Williams and Kamara have absolutely no chance at hitting PS. Kamara is the real deal. Williams is going to be really good for us, he might be starting over Bell before the year ends.

As of right now. and can't tell until they actually play and stay relatively healthy, looks like we have hit on at least 4 of our draft picks, maybe 5. That would be amazing.

Muhammhed is interesting. He will either be on the team or PS. He has flashed. Hendrickson has been hurt I think. Anz will make the squad.
Muhammad is the only one of this year's draft class that I believe has a shot at making the practice squad and if he keeps making plays his chances disappear. I don't think any of the others could clear waivers.
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Muhammad is the only one of this year's draft class that I believe has a shot at making the practice squad and if he keeps making plays his chances disappear. I don't think any of the others could clear waivers.
I agree. And he has really shown some things. Plus he is a big dude. This draft really has some potential for some serious stars for us
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