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Wasnt Ben projected to go in the first round last yr if he came out. Now i think he is supposed to be a late 2nd to 4th round pick. If we were able to get extra picks would he be a bad pick up and put Lecharles B back at guard?

Just an idea..what do yall think?

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with mayberry-that would definitly upgrade our interior line..but here\'s the question-would bentley\'s progress as a lineman be stifled?

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Doubtful. I think Bentley would progress more quickly at guard than at center.

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Bently did very well at guard..probowler. I dont hink it would slow his progress at all..just think

LT..Gandy
LG. Bently.. not sure what side he played?
C..Wilkerson
RG. Mayberry
RT. Brown or Barnes

If the rooks could pick up the system well it could make a pretty good line for years..with eventual Gandy and Mayberry replacments in a year or two.

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I still think we should let the Stinch play RT and draft a LT. We\'ll need one sooner than most think, I fear.

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Your right Stinch needs to step up. His development period has passed time to see some productivity.

Ive thought about this too. Trade howard and first rd pick to move up in front of texans (who most believe will take Alex Barron) and draft Barron and pick up an extra 2nd rd or whatever would be good compensation. Who ever picks around 8-12 (Arizona, wash, det. dallas, san diego)
just a thought

[Edited on 6/4/2005 by SaintSnide]

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as long as we get linebackers...

draft Ben Wilkerson?
 

I would love to get Wilkerson and move LeCharles back to guard. But then, what about Montrae? Depth? Well, that will be pretty good. Hell, if we got Wilkerson, I would be willing to experiment with Mayberry at RT and have LeCharles, Wilkerson and Montrae in the middle. But like Who sayd, I fear we will need a LT very soon.

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Gandy is either 32 or 33, and he\'s contracted to 2009. No way he\'ll make it that far. A 37 year old starting LT? No way.

I\'d support Wilkerson, but it would depends on how far he falls, and whether the other needs would be filled. LB, SS, OT, QB. If you can\'t fill all of them (at the cost of getting Wilkerson), then I\'d pass on Wilkerson.

Just seems more important to me that those need (all of them) get covered.

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Gandy -- damn, he\'s 34 already.

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In the hopes that we trade Howard for a LB, or a 1st or 2nd rounder, or a CB, we can take SS(David) in the 1st and depending if we have another first or 2nd from trading Howard, look at LB, that leaves us with another 2nd which we can use for a backup QB or an OT. So in the 3rd, we may be able to get Wilkerson. Teams will shy away cause he is smallish at C(around 270 no?), so he may be there. would that satisfy you LOE?

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Yes, I think so.

I\'ve posted before I\'d be happy with Davis in the first, if Howard was traded either for a vet LB or a late 1st round pick.

(No less than that, because Howard is a proven commodity, taken at the #33 overall pick. He didn\'t bust, as 2nd round picks can do, and he\'s worth more than a mid or late 2nd round generic pick.)

So, by need:

LB - vet, or first round pick via Howard
SS - Davis, 1st round pick
OT - 2nd round pick
Wilkerson - 3rd round pick
QB - 4th round pick

I would be happy with that.

One player I still really jones about, though, is Matt Jones. No way he\'ll fall to the 4th round.

Guess you can\'t have everything, though.

PS -------------------------------------------

Another option I\'d be happy with is if they traded down from the 16th back to a late first round pick. That would yield an extra early 2nd round pick.

Which enables us to fill all needs with talend, but also add another young cornerback or LB. If the CB route, then Fred Thomas could be traded out for a future pick.

Regarding Davis, I want him, but I know he won\'t fall that far, but Poole is a viable SS as well.

There are so many options via trade down, and via Howard trade. All of these need positions could be filled.

[Edited on 6/4/2005 by LordOfEntropy]

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What? Nothing about a DT, did\'nt anyone notice that big hole all the RB\'s were running thru. I think we need (with the 1st) is a DT, LT, or SS. (all positions that if the starter goes down were screwed). And we have to get a good LB and CB somewhere. (they seem to like the 3rd round for LB\'s for some reason). But, most glaring need is DT, who knows maybe our LB\'s would\'nt be to bad if the line could stop the run sometimes.

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Bryant is a decent backup. Whitehead is old, but a somewhat serviceable backup. Green wasn\'t that bad... but really it comes to a Sully gamble. (Don\'t forget that he came in 20lbs lighter, so there\'s a chance, however slim, no pun intended).

My reasoning revoles on the following point - If I had a choice between:

A) getting Travis Johnson and leaving a sucky play at either LB or SS
or
B) gambling on Sully/Bryant/Whitehead and filling LB and SS with guaranteed playmakers

I\'d take B. And I know it\'s a gamble. But it\'s a gamble to win. Not taking the gamble guarantees a loss.

I -know- SS or LB will suck with current staff. I only -think- DT will suck with Sully/Whitehead/Bryant. Follow my reasoning? You don\'t have to agree with it, but do you follow it?

I\'ll definitely give you that DT could (and will probably be) a a huge hole. But there\'s no other way to take a shot at being successful this year, IMO.

EDIT ------------

Another point (a big one) I failed to mention is that we\'re stuck with Sully, whether we gamble on him or not. He plays or he rides the bench, we can\'t cut him. His cap hit is too tremendous to release, and certainly no one would trade for him.

[Edited on 6/4/2005 by LordOfEntropy]

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I forgot about Holland, I like his play. I think he can be a solid starter.
I\'d take T. Davis in the first..i dont care if he plays olb or ss as long as we get our first rd pick on the field. Assuming we get a trade done with Howard, I think in the second we get a LB with the first pick and BPA for the second pick in the second. Then in the third take Ben.
And hope Stinch can step up.

Speaking of a Howard trade I\'d rather get a 1st next year for him than a 2nd this yr. Just deal him to a team that doenst have a good chance at doin very well and that pick could turn out to be a top ten, but you never know how the seaon will play out.

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If Big Ben is there is the 3rd i would no way pass him up!!!

draft Ben Wilkerson?
 

that\'s the key-draft on the first day to play-draft on the second day to develop.

draft Ben Wilkerson?
 

if ur the Saints....draft in the 2nd rd to never see the field