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would you say the average draft player signed is to a 4 yr deal?

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no statistics but i would say yes for 1st rounders. as you get down to later rounds i would expect the bonuses, guarantees, and lengths to be less proportionately.

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i tihnk if you are looking at the average for all the picks i would say around 3-4 year is about right

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so, in that 3-4 yr range, if you don\'t have someone come in immediately and contribute would you say we\'re investing?

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it depends on how much of it is guaranteed. the more you are commited to, the more the investment. thus when they go sour, the pain is all the worse, ala sullivan.

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since its an average, it counts in late rounders as well....in the first few round i would say you are looking at an average that is a bit higher, so in the first few rounds you are looking for players who could immediately contribute and be a player for several years or you are investing time into players as far as development goes...however, in the later rounds, you are sometimes drafting guys that will show you something in the terms of their original contract and then try to sign them to something longer(i.e. Talman Gardner)

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Kelley, didn\'t you post some salaries for Fitz, Gallery and Rivers last year that said they had 6 year deals?

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I found it Kelley .Seems like deals are getting longer for first round picks. I like that.

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why yes i did. LOL your memory must be in better working order than mine.

ivestigate at nflpa.com and you might get some detailed data.

also a great site to see and understand salaries, cap, etc is-
http://www.patscap.com/
it is only the pats but it is an incredible job. i\'d pay to see a saints page like that.

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ok, so you\'re posting guaranteed deals, unless there are clauses in the contract, correct?

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and, those are all 1st round siginings, correct?

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what i\'m getting at here is if a player you sign for fairly big bucks does\'nt start to show promise until, let\'s just say the 3rd yr, and in that 3rd yr they have a pretty good yr, and all of a sudden they want their contract reworked for mega bucks, are they worth it? smitty